The Pope visits "Moscow" - but in Cuba?

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  1. BrianK

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  2. Amazing Grace

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    Could you refresh my memory. Why is this important? Sorry, memory is a bit jumbled. :)
     
  3. Sanctus

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    It has to do with what was prophesied at Garabandal.

    Conchita:

    "The pope will go to Russia, to Moscow. As soon as he returns to the Vatican, hostilities will break out in different parts of Europe."
     
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  4. Dean

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    I think the to Russia, to Moscow narrows it down to ... The actual Moscow
     
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  5. BrianK

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    On re reading the quote I agree. I just found this development to be intriguing.
     
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  6. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Any town named Moscow nearby ? or is it geographical Moscow, Russia?
     
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  9. Glenn

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    Sorry no. Conchita specifically said " Moscow, Russia". Can't be any clearer than that.
     
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  10. Must this visit of the Pope to Moscow be necessarily connected only to the Patriarch? Could Putin threaten to do something grave (invade Europe) and the Pope request to meet with him to avoid further catastrophe? Then if such a meeting would end in failure it would seem logical that it would be immediately followed by the break out of hostilities in Europe....a Russian Communist invasion which is supposed to also take place before the Warning.
     
  11. Glenn

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    No, there is no necessary connection to the Patriarch, there was no mention of why the pope would travel there. I personally believe it is more likely that he travels there to see Putin because the world will be at its worst,just before the Warning comes, and possibly he goes on a peace mission.
     
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  12. BrianK

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    The "rumor" is confirmed. They are indeed meeting in Cuba.
     
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  13. bflocatholic

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    What blessed news!

    Robert Moynihan of "Inside the Vatican" sent an e-mail out about it earlier today, a portion of which I am pasting here:

    IMPORTANT PRESS COMMUNIQUE FROM THE VATICAN

    Joint Press Release of the Holy See and of the Patriarchate of Moscow

    The Holy See and the Patriarchate of Moscow are pleased to announce that, by the grace of God, His Holiness Pope Francis and His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia will meet on February 12 next.

    Their meeting will take place in Cuba, where the Pope will make a stop on his way to Mexico, and where the Patriarch will be on an official visit.

    It will include a personal conversation at Havana’s José Martí International Airport, and will conclude with the signing of a joint declaration.

    This meeting of the Primates of the Catholic Church and the Russian Orthodox Church, after a long preparation, will be the first in history and will mark an important stage in relations between the two Churches.

    The Holy See and the Moscow Patriarchate hope that it will also be a sign of hope for all people of good will.
    They invite all Christians to pray fervently for God to bless this meeting, that it may bear good fruits.

    Here is the same text in Russian (the fact that the Vatican issued the communique also in Russian, something very rare and I think unprecedented, shows that this meeting has been long planned by both sides, who agreed to announce it in this way):

    Совместный пресс-релиз Святого Престола и Московского Патриархата

    Святой Престол и Московский Патриархат с радостью сообщают, что по благодати Божией Его Святейшество Папа Франциск и Его Святейшество Кирилл, Патриарх Московский и всея Руси, встретятся 12 февраля с.г.

    Встреча состоится на Кубе, куда Папа сделает остановку по пути в Мексику и где Патриарх прибудет с официальным визитом.

    Встреча будет включать в себя личную беседу в Международном аэропорту им.
    Хосе Марти в Гаване и завершится подписанием Совместной декларации.

    Готовившаяся в течение долгого времени встреча Предстоятелей Русской Православной и Католической Церквей станет первой в истории и ознаменует собой важный этап в отношениях между двумя Церквами.

    Святой Престол и Московский Патриархат желают, чтобы это событие стало также знаком надежды для всех людей доброй воли, и побуждают всех христиан к горячей молитве о том, чтобы по благословению Божию предстоящая встреча принесла добрые плоды.

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    As I wrote a few days ago, when I reported that such a meeting was being rumored, a meeting between the Pope of Rome and the Patriarch of Moscow has never previously occurred.
    The meeting has been in the planning for many years.

    It will come one day after the third anniversary of the announcement of the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI, which took place on February 11, 2013.

    The meeting has profound symbolic significance.

    It suggest that the relations between Rome and the largest of the Orthodox Churches, that of Moscow (which counts under its jurisdiction almost two-thirds of the world's estimated 200 million Orthodox) are finally at a point where this long hope-for meeting is finally possible.

    Therefore, he meeting also has considerable significance for the relations between the West, represented by Rome, and Russia, represented, in this case, by the Patriarch of Moscow.

    There is no doubt that this meeting also has significance for events in Ukraine, and in the Middle East, including in Syria, where Russia has recently intervened.

    Thus Cuba, the island which, in October 1962, at the time of the Cuban missile crisis, almost became the site of a tragic nuclear confrontation between the US and the USSR, in this way next week will become the site of a very different encounter -- an encounter of two world religious leaders, representing two of the great but long-separated traditions of Christianity, that of the Latin West (Catholic) and that of the Greek East (Orthodox, in its Russian form), meeting for the first time.

    Many Catholics will see in this meeting an unfolding of the mysterious prophecy of Our Lady of Fatima, who in 1917 spoke to the three shepherd children of Russia's faith at a time when that country was about to become communist. The first apparition of Our Lady occurred in Fatima on May 13, 1917, 99 years ago. The 100th anniversary of that apparition will be celebrated in one year's time at Fatima, and Pope Francis will attend tht celebration.

    May the meeting of Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill lead to deeper mutual understanding, to greater friendship between our separated Churches, and may it therefore produce good fruits: greater unity, steps toward peace, and greater justice for all who suffer oppression.
     
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  14. Fatima

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    For some, this is starting to sound like the 'consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary' or is it the 'consecration of the World to Mary'? Which is it??? Some would like to spin Mary's words at Fatima and Garabandal to be inclusive of private interpretation, as if we can't do specifically what she asks, because of political correctness. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. BrianK

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    I simply did not remember the exact words and context of the Garabandal quote. Please don't read into the original post anything more than that, though one might assume this will lay the ground work for a later papal visit to Moscow.
     

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