Signs in the sun, moon, and stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Leo, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    Whenever I hear thunder that rolls for a long time and shakes the ground, I think of the 'thunder of justice'... and think about what it will be like. Exciting and sobering...
     
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  2. andree

    andree Powers

    A few people are reporting an unscheduled blood moon in the US on March 25th. Paul Begley talks about the blood moon in this video and also shows a cross showing on sunrise in Florida on March 26th. More signs in the sky and sun!

     
  3. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Bogus.

    The moon was TINTED red. It happened just at moonrise and didn't include any occlusion (shadowing) of the moon which would occur during an eclipse. There were several volcanoes that had shot several tons of material into the air in the days before this video was taken, as well as a number of large wildfires (including one in Kansas that has been described as the largest ever in the state). These events would have placed a large volume of "aerosolized particulates" (dust, soot, ash) into the atmosphere and in the general direction of Florida. Since this tinting was observed at moonrise, the reflected light from the moon would have been passing through the thickest part of the atmosphere. Therefore any ash in the air would have contributed to a "reddening" of the light, for the same reason the light from the sun usually appears red at sunset.
     
  4. andree

    andree Powers

    OK, I see that I used the wrong term, since a blood moon refers to a lunar eclipse.

    So what people saw was a red moon caused by something other than an eclipse, which in fact happened few days before. But a red moon that "doesn't give its light" is still a sign in my books regardless of the cause.
     
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  5. andree

    andree Powers

    I wanted to post a few articles for anyone interested in signs in the sky even if we can't see the following signs with our eyes just yet. But they are still signs because scientists have made announcements about them.

    The announcements also seem noteworthy since the establishment denigrates & denies theories about Planet 7X but at the same time, is releasing so much news about new planets discoveries, newly spotted asteroids, strange orbits, mysteries around their origin, etc around the same time as many people are expecting to see new bodies appear in the sky. For anyone paying attention, it can't be a coincidence. For those not paying attention, things must seem very confusing.

    Here is a sample of articles:

    There is indeed a new planet, "Planet 9" discovered by researchers at Caltech (articles here, here and here). Note that the articles about the 9th planet say it is "yet unseen" and “We motivate the existence of a distant, eccentric perturber” that would be 10 times the size of earth. So it's not 7x like Gill Broussard says but it's still an eccentric perturber, 10x the size of earth.

    And speaking of eccentric orbits, there is this discovery of a planet with an orbit so eccentric that it has never been seen before. And its orbit more closely resembles a comet according to this article dated March 18, 2016. The article doesn't mention that that orbit is also like the one that many claim is had by Planet 7X, which has also been described as a comet-like planet.

    And here is yet another interesting recent article about a "rogue planet" in Carnegie Science. This is another new discovery just beyond our solar system of a rogue planet, which is a "freely floating" planet-like mass that doesn't belong to any star system. These planets just come out of nowhere, dance through space and have no orbits around other stars. So, knowledge about this is kind of body is big news since these are the very types of planets that many scientists think could have caused chaos on earth in our past. The kinds of chaos that is described in the bible and in other texts.

    And here is another recent article in the Sun: Mysterious 9th planet wiped out life on this earth and could do it again THIS month

    Needless to say, if we could get wiped out this month, we should pray!
     
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  6. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    An article in "The Sun"? Seriously?

    Okey dokey...
     
  7. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I watch these monthly videos from time to time. Strange weather and skies for sure. I saw that shelf cloud in florida at 7:17 mark in video. Have some stunning pictures of it too.

     
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Should I remove that link? I don't like negative stuff directed about the Pope. And I really messed up because I posted both of these on the wrong thread.... I think that I will be moving them over. Geez. I'm so sorry! I am having a rough day of it...
     
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  10. andree

    andree Powers

    One of the claims made by those who believe in the existence of Planet X is that it is indeed there, but that our view of it is being blocked somehow by scientific techniques unknown to the population at large. Most people who don't follow this subject would say that the idea of cloaking a planet or other body in space is complete and total nonsense.

    With this in mind, I wanted to share this interesting video that Gill Broussard posted this on his FB page: a research graduate working at Cool Labs at Columbia University explains how to cloak a planet, which he says is very easy and would require between 30 to 230 MW to power an array of lasers.



    And here is the associated paper:
    http://arxiv.org/abs/1603.08928

    Apparently this work was featured on CNN, Space.com, Popular Science, NBC News, among others. There was so much interest in that video and paper, that he did a Q&A in this video:

     
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  11. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    I should point out that this proposed technique to cloak a planet only works in a very specific instance: when the planet passes between the observer and the planet's sun, aka planetary transit. If Nubira is coming from outside our solar system (i.e., crossing the orbits of Neptune, Uranus, etc) then it's not passing in front of the sun (i.e., no transit) and the cloaking method described won't work.

    The second method described (noting how the gravity of the object affects other objects) would work, but so far no one (including every freakin' amateur astronomer on the planet) has reported any alterations in any of the outer planet's orbits or any of the other objects out in space. If in fact such alterations were to occur, no freakin' way would any agency be able to shut up the discoverer of the object responsible: the discoverer gets naming rights. This works only if you're the first one to report the object, meaning there are SEVERAL public agencies that would be notified, so they can notify their own people to confirm the observation. If in fact there is an organization or agency that is powerful enough and sinister enough to shut down worldwide discussion of something that is so readily confirmable (telescopes aren't THAT expensive), then it would be much more effective for this agency to spread the rumor that there is in fact a Planet Nubira heading our way, thus distracting us from what they're really doing.

    I think it's called "The Kansas City Shuffle"
     
  12. andree

    andree Powers

    Actually, scientists have reported alterations and I'm aware of one study on this subject concerning the outer oort cloud. But I'm not going to continue this debate here as this takes the discussion into the realm of science and away from the Spirit. I'm not even sure I should have posted that article above since there is no relationship with the Bible really, so I'll go back to sticking to the subject of this thread which is to post about signs in the heavens.
     
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  13. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

  14. From a former doubter:

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...f-a-hidden-distant-planet-in-our-solar-system

    I don't think anyone is attempting to "cloak a planet" but there are those noticing "chem trails" located in certain strategic positions to block the most likely view of any alleged "second sun" which can only occur at present when viewing the horizon....sunrise or sunset. The fact that tracking of such a now known system is necessary has been via the very expensive and necessary placement of the huge infrared telescope at the South Pole in 2007....a placement very difficult and expensive to build and supply in such a location compared to other choices....because they understand the orbit of this system. NASA inadvertently placed a captured image on Google Earth/Sky and when notified took it down, leaving a patch over....only place evidenced on Google Sky. Before it was removed though the image was copied by some amateur astronomers....one with its coordinates. These coordinates were plugged in again to Google sky and the patch was what came up. There were numerous reports in the mainstream newspapers back in the early 1980s. Afterwards all such reporting was discouraged or scrubbed....until now when the various unspotted, until the last minute, pieces of "space junk" are suddenly arriving unexpectedly...as in Russia in 2013 and elsewhere at same time....and more experts are aware of the fact that such disturbance of the Kuiper Belt or Oort Cloud resulting in sending such objects out from there so that many more stories about expect "comets" etc. are now in the news. But that's still avoiding the main character or cause for such disruptions....so now there is the necessity for explaining the "why" and cause. But this "thing" out there was known and written about in the 1950s and earlier; known by those CIA employees working with NASA at the time. The reference these days to Planet 9 rather than 10 of course is due to the demoting of Pluto as the 9th planet.

    http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/01/22/56990/caltech-odd-couple-behind-discovery-of-possible-ne/

    Konstantin Batygin and Mike Brown: One is a fresh-faced math wiz who plays in a rock band. The other is famous for kicking Pluto out of the family of planets. Both were thrust into the media spotlight Thursday when news of their groundbreaking theory broke.

    The two Caltech researchers believe they've found evidence a new ninth planet exists in our solar system.


    In fact, when he (Batygin) began investigating why some distant space objects had strange orbits, he would make fun of the idea a planet was to blame. He and Brown took to giving their hypothesized Plant X silly names.

    ............
    Flash-forward a few years. Brown was at Caltech working with Konstantin Batygin trying to explain why some distant space rocks have such strange orbits. It was as if they were pulled by the gravity of something else.

    "The first thing we actually thought was maybe, the gravitational signature that we are seeing is just wrong," Brown said. "Maybe it’s a fluke, maybe it’s just a coincidence."

    They crunched the numbers, and it didn’t look like a coincidence.

    .......
    They created computer models of our solar system with a planet ten times the size of Earth lurking way past Neptune. They ran simulations, studied the results, and the new planet theory was the only thing that seemed to fit.

    There’s still a lot of work to do to prove this new planet exists, but they’re both confident it’s out there.


    http://www.scpr.org/news/2016/01/22/56990/caltech-odd-couple-behind-discovery-of-possible-ne/
     
  15. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    The thing to keep in mind here is that this proposed giant planet is in orbit around our sun. If true, this orbit takes around 22,000 years to complete. This is completely different from saying that there is a planet X that is moving into the inner solar system on a collision course with Earth.
     
  16. The studied science is its return every 3600 years. There is the question of speed as it reaches perihelion. It's a system of a brown/red dwarf "star" with its own orbiting planets not just a planet. The projection of this orbiting system is more dangerous for planet earth this time since it will come between earth and the sun....blocking the sun.....days of darkness et al. It is NOT on a collision course with Earth. It's nearness of its own tremendous magnetic pull is all that is necessary for a pole shift and all of the super volcanoes erupting, major earthquakes, tsunamis et al and why it's called "the destroyer"....as resulted in its past force with prior pole shifts. As before, after it does its destruction it goes back into its long elliptical orbit as happened in prior pole shifts and destruction...called the "backside" of this system. Nibiru is one of Nemesis' or this Destroyer's (will look like a second sun) own orbiting planets and it is its outermost planet....why it's called "the planet of the crossing"....by the ancients or even the Hopi indians in their own culture's ways of explaining the phenomenon of history known by them and passed down....since once this Nibiru is sighted it will be the announcer of the coming "Destroyer" or cleanser. I would say such an approach could be what could be mitigated via repentance and prayer but yet to some degree will be the necessary cleansing as in the time of Noah. This time around will be far worse since we are told that the sin of our day is worse than that time or any time previously. This kind of destruction is what is really what is contained in the total Third Secret as alluded to by Akita, Pope Benedict (referring to Akita when asked about the Third Secret) and Pope JPII's remarks about what is contained. Perhaps the "dancing sun" of Fatima appearing like it will collide with earth at the time, causing immediate fear and repentance, was to be symbolic of what was to come literally if we did not comply with heaven's, via our Lady, orders. Interesting that the message of Our Lady of Emmitsburg of 2008 came just after the placement of the govt.'s infrared telescope at the South Pole in 2007 and its own sighting of this system and its hiding of this evidence from the public:

    http://www.centeroftheimmaculateheart.org/messages/singlenews.asp?item_ID=1466&comm=0
     
  17. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    ETA, I'm with Muzhik on this one. That newly found planet is even further away from us than Pluto is (even though it was found not to be a planet). Those other orbit trails in their photo aren't other planet's orbits, at least that is not how the article reads.
    I keep thinking this over and over again and I know we are thinking there will be some huge event but I wonder if Sister Lucy was given more of a timeframe with the visions. I know that the 6th seal talks about every island and mountain move and all of that but I like Mark Mallett's explanation for that, the earthquake(s) that we had in the last few years could have actually caused this to happen. Sister Lucy may have seen the tsunami in Thailand, we recently had a few blood moons, maybe these are all events that happen separately but are a sign of the coming of the apostasy in the church? I think Sister Lucy was pointing us to Revelations 12, this of course is just my opinion. I have an idea on what that red dragon is with 7 heads, 10 horns and 7 crowns.
    I keep trying to remember that the devil instills fear not God.

    From day to day I flip flop on these things.
     
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  18. I say to each his/her own as you wish things to be. But, just watching the build up, studying what IS known and happening....that this is only the beginning of the destruction to come. Has what terrible destruction of recent years, even days made any change in man's behavior? It's gotten worse. Man and whole countries are seeming to be more and more suicidal. They will continue to blame God and His followers for such horrors instead of themselves. That will be taken care of by the Warning. Once everyone is shown the truth, Mercy ends and Justice begins. You must choose at that point. There's no rationalizing. Since Pope JPII's death...his entire papacy was about Mercy only....Justice has begun to kiss Mercy. Why are we now given this not just a Jubilee year of Mercy but this "extraordinary" Jubilee year of Mercy?? Time is short and time for repentance is being emphasized. Our Lady has told us that the Red Dragon is Russian Communism. The desert that she is having to flee to is the hearts of all those consecrated to her for this time. Just look at what is currently transpiring in the world by the ordered systems in the making of the elitists, masonry at the highest levels....and also within the Church with its attempt for a small beginning of cleansing by our Pope (as also desired by Pope JPI but then what happened to him!). All of the corruption must come down for any New era to begin, which will be a supernatural era, still intended by God from the beginning, having to begin again since Adam left the Divine Will and what we actually pray for in the Our Father. And Russia is not hiding the Second Sun's reality. They are preparing for such changes...they are developing their submarines rather than what won't work in such conditions resulting from things like erupting volcanoes spewing ash everywhere which is not compatible with other methods of weapon delivery. But all will have to deal with God's will....not their attachment to this world the prince of which is Satan. I know of one who has read the third secret...sworn to secrecy on the exact wording or details but who also said to look at this message of Akita:

    The third message on October 13, 1973, the actual anniversary of the final visions and miracle of Fatima is as follows: "As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day, recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

    And this person also mentioned things like what is already feared to happen soon in the news today.... super volcanoes erupting along with monstrous earthquakes, splitting and inundating at least shores of whole continents et al. It's begun....ring of fire exploding with fears of major volcanoes moving strongly. This too goes with the illustrations of Mr. Yague in his own positing of the pole shift/sixth seal/inundation of countries with Gog and Magog being part of the punishment coming from man. We do not understand what all is entailed in our individual free wills and just how God views sin. So, again, we have still the requests continually from our Lady to pray, pray, pray....the Rosary....repentance....sacrifice for others who do not know her Son. Her concern expressed by her many weeping statues...with even tears of blood (happening often prior to great catastrophes in the countries she was crying in)....isn't to be taken lightly. If only we had simply done what she asked with the Father's permission and desire so many years ago and we would not have had to experience even what has so far transpired in just the last century. Let us pray for forgiveness and perhaps more time and another chance! But our Lady can't hold back her Son's arms much longer....esp. without help from a lot more of us.
     
  19. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    ETA, be advised that in 2003, the Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, Rev. Monsignor Richard W. Woy, on the authorization of the Holy See, issued a finding of "constant de non supernaturalitate" (not of supernatural origin) against the alleged messages of Emmitsburg.

    In 2008, Most Rev. Edwin O'Brien, Archbishop of Baltimore, issued a Pastoral Advisory condemning the messages and revelations as not authentic. The Pastoral Advisory was sent to every Catholic church in the diocese, and in it Gianna Sullivan was warned "not to disseminate in any way, by her own person or by any other person, by electronic means or any other means, on any church property or in any public or private place any messages."

    The Center of the Immaculate Heart, which runs the site you linked to, is part of a foundation that is run by Gianna Sullivan and her husband with the expressed purpose of disseminating these alleged messages. Gianna Sullivan is thus in direct defiance of her bishop. The Pastoral Advisory then warns others not to disseminate her messages because they are harmful to the church.
     
  20. No need to "advise". I am quite aware due to being apparently far more familiar with the facts and the persons than what appears in your own understanding, beyond quoting a ruling, and I know what a sham "commission" was hurriedly called for the express purpose of squashing any further discussions due to a few complaints coming to the chancery. Of course won't be the first time in the history of private revelations which usually points in the end to the veracity due to the suffering and obedience of the prime person involved. The ruling misquoted messages, was completely unfamiliar with the long history, personally insulted the individual involved, did not consult her nor even demonstrate any respect for contacting her with the ruling, denied the witness of her good standing and beliefs in the messages by such expert Mariologists as Father Laurentin himself, the Dominican Fr. Jelly, the spiritual advisor, Fr. O'Carroll, commenter re: each message, theologian Fr. Wang, Fr. Joseph Iannuzzi himself and even the most familiar knowledge of the seer's own pastor who was a sceptic in the beginning (and other examples of some of the most respected personalities of our faith):

    http://www.tfsih.com/FeaturedWritings/ViewWriting.Aspx?WritingID=45

    Another grievous sin against the faithful by authority. And when there was the slightest attempt to explain the connection of the Medjugorje phenomenon to these messages and seer the Cardinal got irritated, demonstrated a lack of objectivity and clamped down on such free offerings from the experts who asked for the meeting, stating he wanted absolutely no mention of that place! That in itself speaks to certain prejudices esp. when they pertain to what you are claiming to judge without prejudice and which is a part of the story itself. Any court that would deny important parts of a defense would rightly be appealed with success. You must take each "commission" and judge whether itself is in obedience and compliance with what is commanded by the Church in the required rules for forming and carrying out such inquiries. Interesting how after such a quick judgement the Cardinal involved was in a serious car accident in Rome and incurred brain damage and was forced to take an early retirement. Priest with him died. Sad! This judgment has much in common with the handling of the Medj. seers, parish, priests by the local bishop there. Since then some of the learned witnesses of this sham when visiting the Vatican presented the many purposeful discrepancies and lack of balance, irregularities, unfairness and disrespect of the person herself and were told that such complaints and desire for new commission had every right to go forward. Meanwhile the obedience shown by the seer appears to be such of a greater humility and respect than the behavior towards herself by those in "Christian" authority. Meanwhile the predicted warnings have come to be....but then, facts these days don't seem to compel against prejudice and position saving. That's the long history of Private Revelations and why so many "judgements" have been changed as time goes on....and of course in such an area one is free to be a sceptic of the intentions involved and free to investigate the level of hypocrisy involved with the "discovery" offered by the only real experts testifying in the matter.....a true question of conscience. And back then such a prophecy of this incoming Second Sun, its proclaimed results et al having been proven by the best judgments of the experts in this area of science, was far from being expected and seemed....to those clueless at the time and without such expertise or apparently even interest....beyond possibility. Aha! As the saying goes, pride always goes before the fall. Again, such facts of those prophecies coming to fruition each new day won't effect those only concerned with protecting their personal positions.
     

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