I find these witch sites, really disturbing

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by josephite, May 20, 2016.

  1. josephite

    josephite Powers

    I know I am not a theologian but when I investigated the writings of Lusia Piccarretta about a month ago I found it pretty disturbing that Lusia writings are promoted on Wicca sites, that is a site for witches.

    I have over the last few days again searched the web on different aspects of Lusia Piccarettas writings. I was Gobsmacked at the number of new wicca sites that promote her teachings!

    Some even saying that finally the Catholic Church is preparing to recount all that is false in its teachings! and recognise Lusia's writings which defend their teachings! ie; of mankinds access to the divine and they state that her writings vindicate all that witches have practiced and expressed for millennia. They seem very joyful regarding Lusia's teachings!

    Its very alarming!!

    Below is just one new wicca site's, affirmation and the apparent embracing of Lusia Piccarretta writings!

    I have highlighted just 2 of their comments in blue and you can go online and follow links to more indepth discussions about Lusia!

    Poor Lusia seems to be becoming the poster girl for the wicca or witch movement!

    Very disturbing!



    This site is called Wicca Teachings.
    http://wicca-teachings.blogspot.com.au/2010_07_01_archive.html

    The home page gives you many portals to investigate spells, teachings, potions etc, and on the home page , many quotes from books and an absolute heap of stuff to read and links to more, indepth discussions.

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    I have not given the full home page below, as it is extremely lengthy so below is only a small segment. It starts.......


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    Queen ('Kwen) defined by merriam-webster.comas a goddess or thing personified as a female having supremacy in a specific realm.

    Hecate (Hekate) has many titles. One of which is Queen of the Witches. Hecate is thought to be the last of the Titans. She was granted dominion over the Heavens, Earth and Sea by Zeus. She is thought to be the seen as a triple goddess figure and holds the keys to the underworld. She is often depicted at a cross roads where decisions are made and offerings to her are left there.

    So how did she become Queen of the Witches? Hecate has a long history and can be traced back 3000 years. She can be found in early writings such as Oddyssey, Homer - C9th BCE and Theogony, Hesiod C8th BCE. Some of her titles include Hekate Desponia(Mistress), Hekate Phosphoros (Lightbringer) and Hekate Trioditis (of the three roads). Looking through the list that I found, I did not locate "queen of the witches", however it may be a modern term. Since the resurgence of religions such as Wicca, groups select a deity or are called to a deity. Since Wicca is "craft of the wise" or witch craft Hecate is often selected as the deity or Queen of the Witches. Many in Wicca associate Hecate with the Crone Goddess. This depiction can be traced back to Robert Graves.

    Hecate and the Maiden Mother Crone aspect.

    In this next video, Sorita d'Este discusses if Hecate is the Goddess of modern Wicca.

    Reincarnation And Judaism

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    One of the note down and highest secret and innate concepts in Jewish Holiness is the concepts of the Making of Galgalim (Rounds/spheres). Perverted concepts of Gilgul which in English is translated as renaissance has come to get the better of in mechanical branches of Judaism eventhough Jewish creation such as Saadia Gaon condemned such beliefs. In undercurrent centuries this appreciation of gilgul has come to mean renaissance in Jewish circles. It comes from the words galgal (circle/round) and Gilgal (spaces of stone circles mentioned in the Bible). It actually refers to mystical rounds of fall of the souls in the spiritual life/world. It is related to the spin (or Galgal ) in Ezekiel. This has been related to the Buddhist and Hindu concepts of renaissance and the Wheel of Vim and vigor etc. but this is a slanting of the primordial appreciation. These modern developments are later read back inwards old Jewish texts such as the Bahir and the Zohar distressing the make public even best quality. The box occurs later those not so mystically advanced misconstrue the mystical insights of the remarkable mystics whether they be Jewish or Christian. Perle Besserman a innocent person of the Baal Shem Tov in her book "Kabbalah and Jewish Holiness" discusses how those references in the Jewish mystical texts that yield been interpreted as referring to renaissance are actually texts potent the stages of meditation in the mystics practice of prayer.

    GILGAL REFAIM- Dull Jewel Whirl IN ISRAEL
    The Zohar each alludes to the virginal marriage unions in the spiritual realms of the thing. In this regard it refers to Solomon and the Shekhinah or Father who is each known as Solomon's Shekhinah or Hokmah (wisdom) as abominable to the elder Shekhinah or mother who is Elohim's Shekhinah or Care (Sophia). Also the Talmud and the Midrash Mishle speak of the attractive Sanhedrin that wished to damn Solomon but he was saved for instance the Shekhinah appeared up to that time God and prostrated herself and pleaded on behalf of Solomon. We could say that Solomon represents the nefesh (profession of the thing) in the Making of Assiyah and the principal Honeymoon union with the adornment Father and nukvah (Luisa) is the level of ruach (spirit/wind/breath). She is represented by the south texture and the eagle in the Making of Yetzirah. The introduction level is Neshama (thing) and affiliated by the Zohar with Joseph. He is represented by the west texture and the Ox (Bull/Unicorn) in the Making of Beriah. The introduction level Chaya (life)is marriage union with the children chaya Matronita (Our Aristocrat). She is represented by the North texture and Lioness in the Making of Atzilut. The confirmation level of the thing is yechidah (union)with Yeshua ha Mashiach. He is represented by the East texture and the Man who is the Adam Kadmon.

    Kabbalah each speaks of three stages of escalation of the thing Ibur (origin), Yenika (suckling/nursling)and Mochin (brain/mind). On the contrary different Kabbalists don't understand that once one reaches the confirmation spiritual level the handle is wrong side up. One moves from gradlut (greatness)anywhere one is a greatly ready smart for example to katnut (smallness) anywhere one moves inwards the night of faith to become as a nursling child dependant on its Mother's luxury. As a result the thing call for alight to katnut d'katnut as a mystical origin with no independent action detached the Prefigure General feeling. Rebbe Nachman of Breslov made-up this mystery but knew that in his time one could chastely trend this pithily as direction and unceasing but he looked brazen to the near-term time later one could strike this phase in a everlasting, eternal and divine manner. One would later after everything else in concert in this world and the Concept of the Third Appealing Zone called Atzilut (third Yehi or fiat). This dust of the Prefigure General feeling(not install on earth with the death and deduction of Our Aristocrat)was of a nature potentially to all whos aspirations begins with Luisa Piccarreta in 1889- less than a hundred year sparkle after the death of Rebbe Nachman.
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    There is so much discussion about Lusia on this site but it is just one of the many witch sites that endorse Lusia Piccaretta!!!

    Please, Catholic people following the Divine Will as articulated by Lusia Picarretta,

    Be careful!!!!

    And please pray the Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary!

    May God Bless us all and May the Holy Spirit give us all, His wisdom. Amen
     
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  2. andree

    andree Powers

    Disturbing for sure, but it's part of the bigger picture that is even more disturbing which is how the entire bible and true church of Jesus Christ get distorted & perverted by a host of New Age type sects and others who talk about things like the "universal force of christ" and what not. Have you ever heard of A Course in Miracles? It's the New Age version of the Bible and Jesus' name is everywhere in it.

    I bought an angel prayer card for one of my children in the shop of an approved Marian shrine a while ago and when she prayed it in the evening, it sent chills down my spine because it sounded like a new age prayer, not a true christian prayer. I got rid of the card!

    I agree that the faithful do need to be careful when googling Luisa's name and Our Lord's also.
     
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  3. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    Very familiar with the New age stuff like A Course in Miracles and the Urantia book. I thought it was so detailed and a much larger story then what I thought the Christian faith was at the time. Boy was I wrong after diving into all that stuff for about 7 years.
     
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  4. padraig

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  5. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Well speaking of this . . .last Fri. I made my Consecration to Mary at a Marian Shrine that also had Holy Doors. It was an awesome day! And Saturday I went to a class on essential oils and was demonically attacked. The leader of the group said she reads chakras or whatever they are and mixes essential oils to get better energy. She looked at me and said my spiritual level was way too high and told me I needed to take a break from whatever I was doing. I told her I was a Carmelite and couldn't get out of there fast enough! When I got home I started doing research on essential oils, from the Women of Grace website, they are on EWTN. They said that pure oils are great and very healthy and are mentioned many times in the bible. But when you mix them it is like creating a witches potion! Yikes. I want to learn more about Essential oils for when we are in the storm and can't get medicine I have an alternative and also for general well being. Sooo, you just have to be really cautious about everything anymore. Interesting, the person who told me about the class is my ex-neighbor. She was big into reiki which I know very little about, and don't want to know, and I told her it was against my religion to practice it. Now I am finding out how deep into the occult these people are. In fact, her husband committed suicide a year ago. She sold her house and I won't even go over there to meet the new neighbors.
     
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  6. One of my friends went to a martial arts premises to collect her grandson, as she was early she sat at the end of the large hall among other parents and to kill time started praying her rosary silently. After a short while the instructor left the kids and came down to the area she was sitting and demanded to know who was disturbing his spirit. Nobody knew what he was talking about.. after a few moments he singled out my friend and asked what she was doing. When she told him she was only praying her rosary, he told her to leave the hall so as not do disturb his spirit!
     
  7. leon

    leon New Member

    I did a clip about wicca, it was never intended to be an occult practice but became one by accident after Aleister Crowley died. Crowley had nothing to do with it and there was never a set practice to it, that is why it is a 'make it up as you go' thing. It gets back to Gerald Gardner who ultimately turned out to be just a dirty old man who invented 'skyclad' (naked) rituals. How ironic that feminists flock to wicca while ignoring how Gardner manipulated women (but feminists are just as bad in this regard).
     
  8. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Don't even go near that, wear a blessed St.Benedict Medal
     
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  9. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    Correct me if I'm wrong but we have been warned since Old Testament Times to be On-Watch for Signs but at the same time to be on the Look-Out for False Prophets and Wolves in Sheep's clothing. This site is full of point-outs to Holy Joes/Janes, weeping statues, Jesus'/Mary's Face on pancakes or..., "Miraculous" photos and ... Ya Know! :(
    We have more than enough Approved by The Church "Stuff" to keep us "On the Beam"! ... Do we not!?? My simple minded self tells me that there are three categories in the above: 1) Real Deal, 2) Over Imagination of decent people, 3) From satan & pals. We can assume with a high degree of certainty that that which is approved by the Church is Cat One. Is anybody here smart/educated enough to figure out the difference between Cat Two/Three!!??

    “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it’ ” (Mat 24:23-26)

    "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves...Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them... Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophecy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evil doers!" (Mat 7:15, 20-23)

    "I know quite well that when I have gone fierce wolves will invade you and have no mercy on the flock. Even from your own ranks their will be men coming forward with a travesty of the truth on their lips to induce the disciples to follow them. So be on your guard..." (Acts 20: 29-31)

    "Here am I sending you out like sheep with wolves all round you; so be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves. But be on your guard against men..." (Mat 10:16-17)

    "Go! I am sending you out like lambs among wolves." (Luke 10:3)

    "For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths" (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
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  10. Scolaire Bocht

    Scolaire Bocht Archangels

    Yes but we can be too sceptical sometimes too crewdog? We don't want to insult people who could be legit?

    Anyway Border Collie its very interesting what you said about religious people hitting the supposed life force of those into New Age stuff but I wonder can that work a little the other way around too?

    Can you feel drained because people are into some of those practices around you? All the people in our house recently went to a big Yoga festival, with a Buddha in every tent!
     
  11. CrewDog

    CrewDog Guest

    Scolaire Bocht sez: "Yes but we can be too sceptical sometimes too crewdog? We don't want to insult people who could be legit?"
    Perhaps SB...... but ... I don't have the warewithal to know who is "Legit" or no .. & I expect that you or nobody else here does either ... sooooo ... "These Days" .... I'd suggest biding with what we do know is the "True Heading" to Salvation!!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
     
  12. Sanctus

    Sanctus Guest

    Hi BorderCollie, I remember before I had to visit a priest for deliverance from new-age practices I was briefly involved in and the priest and the man who was helping him warned me about maritial arts and told me never to go near them. He said that they are "bowing" to something they believe to be higher than Jesus, which is idolatry. I think that was a good way of explaining why it is bad.
     
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  13. It just goes to show us how ol red legs works. Louisa's cause is coming up , he knows it. Those who hear about her cause will do searches and lo and behold, they will come across this horse manure and be scandalized. Lord, give us discernment and hope in your light and your saints!
     
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  14. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    It is also interesting how Crowley initiated Gardner into the OTO, which does a parody of the mass every Sunday.
     
  15. leon

    leon New Member

    Yes Crowley did initiate Gardner, this I believe was to gain Gardiners' knowledge and perspectives from his time in the Indian subcontinent and North Africa. But Gardiner was only initiated a few months before Crowley died so there was never any 'order' to what they may have exchanged, so Gardner was left in a default position in regards to Wicca. Hence this is why we all manner of nonsense being portrayed as a 'tried, tested and true' occult system when it is basically more akin to a gothic comic book fantasy.
     
  16. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

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    I respectfully disagree on one point. Most modern magic is based on Crowley who was deep into the occult. I am an ex-witch, who will testify witchcraft is not gothic comic book fantasy. The spells do work and I now know demons are behind the resurgence of the occult. I was almost possessed and definitely oppressed. It has taken several years much prayer with confession to overcome the harm done by Wicca. This is my take on the subject.
     
  17. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Verne, what is OTO?
     
  18. Jonah

    Jonah Angels

    My daughter was feeling unwell recently at a concert so I was with her in the ladies room, a woman tried to help by telling me to write nux vom on a piece of paper and put it under a glass of water and when my 9 year old daughter drinks it she'll be better. I know nux vom is homeopathy, but that sounds like witchcraft to me. A good friend who is a practicing faithful Catholic uses homeopathy as their first port of call for any medical care. She's having lots of trouble with one particular son and I wonder if homeopathy might have something to do with it. Would anyone be able to give me a bit more info?
     
  19. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    Ordo templi orientis. It is the name of an occult group founded by Alesiter Crowley. The ecclesiastical arm of the OTO is the Eccesia Gnostica Catholica or the gnostic Catholic Church. This church offers the gnostic mass of Crowley every Sunday night. Interesting, Crowley wrote this mass in Russia in 1913. This church offers the eucharist, baptism, confirmation, marriage, and the last rites. The church also has deacons and priests. In their creed, it is professed a belief in the Mother Earth Babalon and the serpent baphomet another name associated with Satan. These are just approximations. OTO is found in about 27 countries with over 50 locations in the USA. This is a question not posed often. A demonically inspired mass has been offered since 1913. Does anyone wonder why our world is in the shape it is in and why Mary appeared at Fatima in 1913? Much more could be said, but I hope this is sufficient. My warning is stay with the true mass. Do not mess around with magic and the OTO.
     
  20. Verne dagenais

    Verne dagenais Principalities

    We all use homeopathic medicine. Taking herbs for illnesses is just one example. There is one potential spiritual problem with homeopathy. A person has to make sure the source of the herbs and the practitioner is not practicing the occult. Many occult book stores sell herbs and many natural doctors prescribe reiki healing and yoga which are occult practices. From a medical perspective, generally it is better not to take any medication from a stranger, since you may not know what you are getting. The lady telling you to write on a piece of paper, put it under a glass of water, and then drink it, was probably giving you a spell. In my opinion, writing words on a piece of paper does not heal you, unless there is a spiritual working involved. For example, Jesus through Marie Julie Jahenny told people to write words on a piece of paper and swallow it for protection. Evil parodies good. Hope this helps.
     

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