Through this warning I shall send. My people shall come to know me. But before I send this warning, many democracies through out the world shall collapse. It shall start with the United States, and then many countries in Europe. I have given these countries freedom, and the people have abused their freedom by not obeying my commandments. Because of this, these places shall be is ruins. And they shall remain in ruins unless my people respond to my will. Then I shall breathe life into these nations again. But the longer these places keep their back turned towards me, these nations shall remain dead. And communism shall return through out the world. http://johnmariani.homestead.com/Feb-08-2012.html
People are thinking that the return of communism is a figure of speech or another form of communism like a green communism but it is not. The communism will return the way it was in URSS with the red dragon. There will be revolutions and countries will be dominated. Until we see the beggining transformation of the world into communism there will be no Warning.
John, I am preparing the way for the Illumination of Consciences. It is the only through pain that the people will understand their offences toward Me. Before that happens, much darkness is to come. You shall see a One World Order emerge. http://johnmariani.homestead.com/January-07-2009.html
Prince of Peace, I think that we have been given so many hints as to when the Warning will occur but yet those hints are still somewhat vague and therefore open for interpretation. From this website http://garabandal.weebly.com/#/ we have the following, " In fact on that note, Padre Pio had personally met with Conchita before his death and related to her that Europe would suffer greatly before the miracle. By suffer it is likely that the now canonized saint was referring to communism.... In 1965 Conchita was asked about the timing of these supernatural events. She directly stated: When communism newly comes again, everything will happen. When asked what she meant by this she stated she did not know what the Blessed Virgin meant. All she knew is that when communism newly comes again, everything will happen. There was direct reference to Western Europe. It remains unknown to what degree the Americas will be affected. But what is clear from the visionaries is that there will be a crisis related to communism shortly before the warning, and the warning and miracle will occur when the world is most in need of Gods direct intervention. Padre Pios statement makes sense in light of this. "
"ALL THESE THINGS MUST TAKE PLACE..." was just pondering the Gospel from yesterday in light of the expectation here that we could be on the cusp of great change. One thing struck me that has been noted before by some members. Christ makes clear that the heart of the struggle in this world is staying faithful to Him despite world persecution and what not. He also makes doubly clear as in yesterday's Gospel that a wave of violent persecution of Christians precedes direct divine intervention. Now it seems pretty obvious to me that the context for such a violent persecution does not yet exist. To be sure the conditions for such an event are apparent but we are far from there as of yet. What do you think?
I think it's coming soon....we have been bullied by the left, here in the US....not folding into their ideologies...abortion, homosexuality, transgender, assisted suicide.....Clearly all these things go against Judeo Christian teachings......with Trump in power, the left is going to get more forceful with their agenda. But ISIS is here in the US, and they will pick up speed shortly as well I fear. So attacks will come from both sides. One then the other.
I hear what you're saying. But my thinking would verge slightly in positing that this is merely the beginning. setting up shop as it were. I mean we are a bit of a way from 17th century Ireland say when the very Catholic religion was the principal focus of attack.
Carmel333 said: I have a friend who is a fallen away Catholic that I used to work with. I had just gone through a huge conversion and asked if she would go to Church with me, not knowing at the time that she had been away and was living in sin. She started meeting me at Mass on Sundays, and after about a month she asked me to meet her after mass also to talk. She seemed really upset. I did and she blurted out "I am going to Hell!!" and started crying. I assured her that as she had not yet died she still had time to repent and have mercy from God. She told me she had a vision and it scared her to death, and that she knew it was a WARNING. (I know she did not know anything about prophecy and did not have a computer. It was 1997 and the internet was not so widespread then.) She told me that in her vision she was at a school with her children (she had none and was only 20 at the time) and suddenly a huge comet with a tail swept past the earth, and the tail of fire burned up everything in its path. They were all looking out the window and she said she hit her knees and started praying the Hail Mary out loud begging the children to join in, and the fire passed by them, but that she knew in her heart it was a Warning for everyone and especially for her. I totally believed her and later wondered if this was a vision of the actual Warning predicted in Garabandal.
Personally I think the Church is going to hang on the cross for a while, but I think the nails are already being driven in. If you are a Christian living under ISIS or Boko Haram then I think you might be inclined to disagree that the violent persecution has not already started.
There are three levels of persecution according to Jesus (Notebooks, Valtorta). Bloody human persecution of flesh. Mental persecution of opinions. And the spiritual persecution. What you think, what of them is the worst? People with the Mark of the Beast and spiritually sick would say that of flesh. The others that of mind. But Jesus said, and I am living witness of it, that the spiritual persecution is the worst. The spiritual persecution means to send false prophets, to teach rationalism and darwinism, to live in materialism, to deny or to not teach about hell, to teach wrong about mercy, to not speak yes and no, to make compromisses. I am hated by so many Christians, so many priests, because I have another spirit than they have. And in this forum it is the same. All people have (me too) perversed spirit, if they are not totaly connected with God. I see, that many of you are less or more connected with God. But there are others, who are connected with their God too little. And they are becoming instruments of Satan at one hour. I experience it every day in real life and also here. Almost whole world is possesed. If not direct, so at least by materialism. And this is the persecution, what Jesus spoke about. You maybe have similar experiences.
persecution in specific places the church always suffered. the widespread persecution will take place when communism return.
There are many forms of persecution. We already have outward forms of Christian persecution in the world today but fear is also a type of persecution. Take for example what just happened with this presidential election, no one expected Trump to win, correct? Why? So many people have said that they knew people would be too fearful to state their opinion about voting for him. We all know he is no saint that's easy but why where they too fearful? All of these liberals demonstrating are not fearful to stand up for what they believe in. This a form of persecution that we are witnessing in the US and pretty much all over the world. The Christians are the silent ones for the most part too fearful to express their beliefs, why because they are not PC? The persecution is here and day by day it gets worse. As for the dreams about fire and such, we won't know until it happens, these dreams could be of the chastisement. To me it is all related, the Warning, the Miracle and the Chastisement. The Chastisement may be conditional but it was and is still part of the message. Thank you for your posts always. PS- EarthToAngels, Posted about Chelsea Clinton possibly running for Congress, imagine in another 20 years or so if she wants to be president, all of these protestors will be more than happy to see her as president. HRC's supporters have the louder voice right now, much louder, very sad. (And if the Pope doesn't at least address these 4 cardinals he is not setting a very good example IMHO.) It appears to me that we are ripe for the intervention of God or at least very, very close.
I think we must go through the agony of the garden first. This is the moment when we feel all alone and we can't see our efforts to preach the faith as having any merit. When we fear the suffering coming our way. When those around us cannot stay awake to pray with us. I think many are already at this point. Next comes the physical persecution of the faithful, and the carrying of the cross. We will have our moments of encouragement along the way as well. We will see grace in action through the angels and the remnant. Many will be 'hung on the cross' and give their lives for the faith. For me, the rosary and the scapular are our refuge. Our Lady has told us as much. Under her mantle the remnant will find its refuge. This I am convinced of.
I think we're already at the point of the Crowning with thorns (the Church/faithful little ones have already suffered persecution and elimination to a great degree; and so many have already abandoned Him).......taking advantage of going after the "head", hoping to scatter the sheep with the head eliminated for all practical purposes for leadership. And then will come the time when each person will have to rely on his/her own individual faith, alone, to feel and to carry his/her personal cross onward, with the help of the Mother walking with each who have acknowledged her along the way, to the end.
This to me is the scariest part. It seems from prophecy that there may come a time when we don't have access to the sacraments. All we will have is Our Lady. Not that She is not enough. She is. She will save us through the Rosary and the Scapular, but not having the sacraments will be scary indeed. I think we will be stripped down to the point where it is just us and Her. The Church will be devastated. Just as Christ hung on the cross with Our Lady at His feet, we will be desolate.
The biggest problem of those, who have not noticed the arrival of "communism", is, they are possesed by it. If ancient Jews saw today's people, they would say: almost all people are possesed. Who lived NOT spiritually, already was considered as possesed. This possession can be recognized only by loving, pure, humble and generous one... This possession is possesion by materialism and atheism, and some men should consider, that the communism is called materialistic atheism by Our Lady. Maybe most of you are materialists, not atheists. But it is enough. This is the reason of your blindness. This is the reason of your hartred. It is very very very hard to love someone with possesed spirit. But it is not possible for possessed ones to love others of pure spirits. I notice this every day. To be Christians means to love all people. To love less means the determination in Purgatory. To hate means to belongs to Hell. Many should remember it.
What happens though to someone who has fallen into mortal sin if there comes a time when we don't have access to the sacraments? It would be very scary indeed.
The return of communism is literal (you will see countries dominated, civil conflict, martyrs, churches closed etc) and this has not happened yet. We have a lot of prophecies about that. But first there will be the last and deep economic collapse with the extreme changes in climate how is described in this thread by Sulema. In the middle of this turmoil the warning will take place. We have to wait a lot of signals that have not yet started. If a person can not understand that signals and continue thinking about dates he is probably guided by a"spirit of confusion". Thinking about dates is a infallible sign to see that the person is in error.
This is from GSWYL: "If mankind does not repent of their sins, you will see the following events, after the warning. The persecution of the Holy Father, causing him to flee Rome and go into hiding. The Holy Mass becoming protestantized with the abomination of desolation taking place. My true church being forced into underground masses with my children being fed my Holy Eucharist many times by my angels. A world wide persecution of my faithful. My faithful being called to flee to my refuges. A false church being instituted with a false leader or antipope. Mankind attempting to re-institutionalize the tower of Babel, with a one world government, which will control the world’s currency with the mark of the beast. An antichrist who will lead this revolt against God and who will proclaim the Masonic doctrine that all religions are equal and that the kingdom of God is a materialistic earthly kingdom." http://www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org/index.html I am not familiar with Sulema, is she approved? I think the confusion comes from following different seers approved or unapproved, so many messages, so many different clues.
