I really hope they’ve awaken from their slumber already, for soon it will be too late, as well as past invincible. They will have to answer for their willful ignorance.
Is this the thing that has been prophesied about something in the future that will be the line against the Church to which the priests cannot comply and suffer for?? They just don't get the Sacrament. Rather disillusioning to read that priests/local church/bishops have actually been trying to find some reasonable way to comply. And so it begins. Reportable conduct scheme extended to confessional, despite last-minute plea Priests in Canberra will soon be forced to break the seal of confession to report child abusers, despite fears the new laws impinge on religious freedoms. All three parties in the ACT Legislative Assembly supported the bill to extend the mandatory reporting scheme to cover churches - and the confessional from March 31 - although two Liberal politicians spoke out about their concerns. Andrew Wall, who was schooled at Marist College which was exposed by the royal commission as the most notorious Catholic school in Australia for child sexual abuse claims, said the inclusion of some religious organisations in the reportable conduct scheme was "overdue". However Mr Wall said breaking the seal of confessional would fundamentally change the practice, and "significantly impinges on an individual's freedom of association, freedom of expression and freedom of religious rights". Vicki Dunne, who is a Catholic, said breaking the seal meant automatic ex-communication for priests and would undermine trust in the "sacred, sacramental and sacrosanct" rite. "We need to stop and think twice before we pass legislation that requires Catholic priests to break the seal of confession," Mrs Dunne said. "That’s why Father Brennan said he would rather break law than seal of confession." The new laws will require religious organisations' "activities, facilities, programs or services" to report allegations, offences or convictions related to children to the ACT Ombudsman within 30 days and launch an investigation from July 1. The clause around the confessional won't apply until March 31, 2019, so the government and the clergy can determine how the laws will work. Church leaders had previously called for their organisations to be included in the reportable conduct scheme. But in an opinion piece for Fairfax Media, Archbishop Christopher Prowse appeared to reverse his earlier position for the church to be included in the reportable conduct scheme, saying while the Catholic Church shared the government's concern to protect the safety of children, it should not come at the expense of religious freedom. MORE: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/po...extended-to-confessional-20180607-p4zk0j.html
Its absurd to think that this will have any net affect on catching perverts and abusers. Will Priests be hauled into court and examined when someone who is found to be a child abuser is also said to be Catholic on some decades old school form somewhere? Yet another way for the state to insert itself as God.
Pope Francis Decries ‘Exodus of Climate Migrants and Environmental Refugees’ 17 Getty 8 Jun 201829 Pope Francis has once again denounced an “ecological crisis” sweeping the world, which is allegedly producing a “growing exodus of climate migrants and environmental refugees.” The pope’s words formed part of a message he sent to the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew I, and to the participants in an International Symposium titled “Toward a Greener Attica: Preserving the Planet and Protecting its People,” taking place in Athens, Greece this week. Although the pope does not specify what he means by “a growing exodus of climate migrants and environmental refugees,” one must infer that he believes that significant numbers of people are leaving their homelands because of “global warming.” The pope’s words echo recent predictions by the World Bank that more than 143 million people will be forced to migrate by 2050 thanks to climate change. MORE: http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...-climate-migrants-and-environmental-refugees/
Since when has mankind NOT been migrating to and fro because of changes to our environment? Now it's some kind of crisis? lol more absurdity on the part of the msm and its handlers.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/vati...ation-new-ways-access-communion-amazon-region Vatican asks for 'new ways' for access to Communion in Amazon region People in native dress arrive for a meeting with Pope Francis Jan. 19 at Madre de Dios stadium in Puerto Maldonado, Peru. (CNS photo/Paul Haring) Rome — A Vatican document meant to help prepare for a special meeting of Catholic bishops from the Amazon rainforest focuses on how the church's ministry in the nine-nation region is overextended and calls for consideration of "new ways" to allow laypeople "better and more frequent access to the Eucharist." The 14-page preparatory paper for the 2019 special assembly of the Synod of Bishops of the Amazon, released June 8, references the issue of overextension several times. At one instance, it states frankly that the church's pastoral care in the region "has been spread precariously thin." "An incarnated mission implies rethinking the Church's limited presence in relation to the immensity of the territory and its cultural diversity," the document continues. "Vatican II reminds us that all the People of God share in the priesthood of Christ, although it distinguishes between the common priesthood and the ministerial priesthood," it states. "This gives way to an urgent need to evaluate and rethink the ministries that today are required." The paper also calls for discussion of women's place in Catholic leadership, saying: "it is necessary to identify the type of official ministry that can be conferred on women, taking into account the central role which women play today in the Amazonian Church." Pope Francis announced the special Synod for the Bishops of the Amazon last fall, saying he wanted the Catholic Church "to identify new paths for the evangelization of God's people" in the world's most bio-diverse region. Some speculation since has focused on whether the pontiff might wish the gathering to consider the possibility of opening up the Catholic priesthood to married men, in hopes of allowing the church to better minister in an area marked by difficult terrain and the spreading of populations over vast, hard-to-traverse distances. Although the June 8 document does not specifically refer to the idea of allowing married priests, it repeatedly mentions the issue of access to the Eucharist. At one point in the paper, which includes a questionnaire for the soliciting of input from Catholics at every level, the Vatican says the Synod process "requires an extensive exercise in reciprocal listening, especially between the faithful and the Church’s magisterial authorities." "One of the main points to be heard is the cry 'of thousands of [their] communities deprived of the Sunday Eucharist for long periods of time,'" it states, quoting from the 2007 Aparecida document of the Latin American and Caribbean bishops. At a Vatican press conference launching the document June 8, the head of the Synod office said the paper does not specifically mention married priests because his office did not want to unduly influence the direction of discussions leading up to the 2019 gathering. "This is not an official declaration on the part of the Holy See on viri probati," said Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, using a Latin term for "proven men" that is often used to describe husbands who might be able to become priests. "Here we speak of ministry, there are lots of various forms of ministry," said Baldisseri. "Let's leave freedom to the discussion. We are not trying to preclude anything." The preparatory document, written by the Vatican's office for the Synod with the help of an 18-member council chosen by Francis to oversee the 2019 meeting, unfolds over three brief parts, which take up the Catholic social teaching model of see/judge/act. The paper opens with a preamble that considers the "vital importance" of the Amazon for the entire planet, and says a "deep crisis" has been triggered in the region by human activity and an "extractivist mentality." "The Amazon is a region with rich biodiversity," the document states. "It is multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, and multi-religious; it is a mirror of all humanity which, in defense of life, requires structural and personal changes by all human beings, by nations, and by the Church." Beyond questions of ministry, a lot of the paper's focus is on environmental concerns. It says that the diversity of the Amazon region is "being threatened by expansive economic interests," citing specifically "indiscriminate logging" and contamination of bodies of water from "indiscriminate use of agro-toxins, oil spills [and] legal and illegal mining." The document also speaks at length about the situation of the estimated 390 different contacted indigenous peoples in the Amazon, noting that many in recent decades have left their traditional lands for cities, which it says are "characterized by social inequalities." "The poverty produced therein ... has generated relationships of subordination, of political and institutional violence, and of increased alcohol and drug consumption," it states. "Poverty represents a deep wound in the lives of many Amazonian peoples." "Today the cry of the Amazonia to the Creator is similar to the cry of God’s People in Egypt," the document continues later. "It is a cry of slavery and abandonment, which clamors for freedom and God's care." The questionnaire included with the document contains 30 queries. Explaining the process by which the questions are to be used, the paper states: "The Spirit speaks through the entire People of God." "Listening to it, we can learn about the challenges, hopes, ideas, and new paths that God is asking of the Church in the region," it continues. "This questionnaire is intended to help pastors respond to that invitation through consultation with the People of God." The questionnaire follows the model of the document, splitting its queries into the three categories of see, judge, and act. The third section contains a question focused on the availability of the Eucharist. It asks: "One of the major challenges in the Amazon Basin is the impossibility of celebrating the Eucharist frequently in all places. How can we respond to this need?" That section also contains a question about women in the church, which asks: "The role of women in our communities is of utmost importance, how can we recognize and value them on our new paths?" Bishop Fabio Fabene, the Synod office's under-secretary, said during the June 8 press conference that the next step in the process leading to the 2019 gathering will be meetings at the diocesan level, organized by local bishops, for Catholics to read and discuss the preparatory paper. Fabene said the Vatican is hoping to receive responses to the document's questionnaire by February 2019, and that it will be up to local pastors to "collect suggestions, reactions, and observations." The initial working document for the Synod, known in Latin as the Instrumentum Laboris, should be finished by June 2019, he said. Clarifying which bishops will be taking part in the special assembly of the Synod, Fabene said each of the 102 prelates whose dioceses touch the Amazon will be invited. Also invited will be the presidents of the seven bishops' conferences involved in the region, and the leaders of the Red Eclesial PanAmazonica, an ecclesial network of bishops from the region created in 2014. The Synod's preparatory document cites a wide swath of church documents from the past century in its considerations. Among the primary references is material from the regional Episcopal Conference of Latin America and the Caribbean, known by its acronym CELAM. Receiving particular reference is the final document from the group's 2007 meeting in Aparecida, Brazil. The Aparecida document, whose drafting was chaired by Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, the future Francis, is cited by the Synod office 14 times. [Joshua J. McElwee is NCR Vatican correspondent. His email address is jmcelwee@ncronline.org. Follow him on Twitter: @joshjmac.]
Pope Francis has sent birthday greeting to Fr Gustavo Gutierrez; the founder of Liberation theology “Their errors stem from the tenets of “liberation theology,” a Marxist interpretation of religion. This “theology” originated in Latin America in the late seventies and was condemned by the Church on August 6, 1984, in the Instruction on Certain Aspects of the “Theology of Liberation,” signed by the then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger.7” from tfp.org/TFPForum/TFPCommentary/soa_consistent.htm https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...n-gustavo-gutierrez-a-birthday-greeting-75339 http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...aith_doc_19840806_theology-liberation_en.html MARXIST ANALYSIS 1. Impatience and a desire for results has led certain Christians, despairing of every other method, to turn to what they call "marxist analysis." 2. Their reasoning is this: an intolerable and explosive situation requires 'effective action' which cannot be put off. Effective action presupposes a 'scientific analysis' of the structural causes of poverty. Marxism now provides us with the means to make such an analysis, they say. Then one simply has to apply the analysis to the third-world situation, especially in Latin America. 3. It is clear that scientific knowledge of the situation and of the possible strategies for the transformation of society is a presupposition for any plan capable of attaining the ends proposed. It is also a proof of the seriousness of the effort. 4. But the term "scientific" exerts an almost mythical fascination even though everything called "scientific" is not necessarily scientific at all. That is why the borrowing of a method of approach to reality should be preceded by a careful epistemological critique. This preliminary critical study is missing from more than one "theology of liberation." 5. In the human and social sciences it is well to be aware above all of the plurality of methods and viewpoints, each of which reveals only one aspect of reality which is so complex that it defies simple and univocal explanation. 6. In the case of Marxism, in the particular sense given to it in this context, a preliminary critique is all the more necessary since the thought of Marx is such a global vision of reality that all data received form observation and analysis are brought together in a philosophical and ideological structure, which predetermines the significance and importance to be attached to them. The ideological principles come prior to the study of the social reality and are presupposed in it. Thus no separation of the parts of this epistemologically unique complex is possible. If one tries to take only one part, say, the analysis, one ends up having to accept the entire ideology. That is why it is not uncommon for the ideological aspects to be predominant among the things which the "theologians of liberation" borrow from Marxist authors. 7. The warning of Paul VI remains fully valid today: Marxism as it is actually lived out poses many distinct aspects and questions for Christians to reflect upon and act on. However, it would be "illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them, and to accept elements of the Marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the ideology, or to enter into the practice of class-struggle and of its Marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads." [22] 8. It is true that Marxist thought ever since its origins, and even more so lately, has become divided and has given birth to various currents which diverge significantly from each other. To the extent that they remain fully Marxist, these currents continue to be based on certain fundamental tenets which are not compatible with the Christian conception of humanity and society. In this context, certain formulas are not neutral, but keep the meaning they had in the original Marxist doctrine. This is the case with the "class-struggle." This expression remains pregnant with the interpretation that Marx gave it, so it cannot be taken as the equivalent of "severe social conflict", in an empirical sense. Those who use similar formulas, while claiming to keep only certain elements of the Marxist analysis and yet to reject the analysis taken as a whole, maintain at the very least a serious confusion in the minds of their readers. 9. Let us recall the fact that atheism and the denial of the human person, his liberty and rights, are at the core of the Marxist theory. This theory, then, contains errors which directly threaten the truths of the faith regarding the eternal destiny of individual persons. Moreover, to attempt to integrate into theology an analysis whose criterion of interpretation depends on this atheistic conception is to involve oneself in terrible contradictions. What is more, this misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the person leads to a total subordination of the person to the collectivity, and thus to the denial of the principles of a social and political life which is in keeping with human dignity. 10. A critical examination of the analytical methods borrowed from other disciplines must be carried out in a special way by theologians. It is the light of faith which provides theology with its principles. That is why the use of philosophical positions or of human sciences by the theologian has a value which might be called instrumental, but yet must undergo a critical study from a theological perspective. In other words, the ultimate and decisive criterion for truth can only be a criterion which is itself theological. It is only in the light of faith, and what faith teaches us about the truth of man and the ultimate meaning of his destiny, that one can judge the validity or degree of validity of what other disciplines propose, often rather conjecturally, as being the truth about man, his history and destiny. 11. When modes of interpretation are applied to the economic, social, and political reality of today, which are themselves borrowed from Marxist thought, they can give the initial impression of a certain plausibility, to the degree that the present-day situation in certain countries is similar to what Marx described and interpreted in the middle of the last century. On the basis of these similarities, certain simplifications are made which, abstracting from specific essential factors, prevent any really rigorous examination of the causes of poverty and prolong the confusion. 12. In certain parts of Latin America, the seizure of the vast majority of the wealth by an oligarchy of owners bereft of social consciousness, the practical absence or the shortcomings of a rule of law, military dictators making a mockery of elementary human rights, the corruption of certain powerful officials, the savage practices of some foreign capital interests constitute factors which nourish a passion for revolt among those who thus consider themselves the powerless victims of a new colonialism in the technological, financial, monetary, or economic order. The recognition of injustice is accompanied by a pathos which borrows its language from Marxism, wrongly presented as though it were scientific language. 13. The first condition for any analysis is a total openness to the reality to be described. That is why a critical consciousness has to accompany the use of any working hypotheses that are being adopted. One has to realize that these hypotheses correspond to a particular viewpoint which will inevitably highlight certain aspects of the reality while leaving others in the shade. This limitation which derives from the nature of human science is ignored by those who, under the guise of hypotheses recognized as such, have recourse to such an all- embracing conception of reality as the thought of Karl Marx.
VIII SUBVERSION OF THE MEANING OF TRUTH AND VIOLENCE 1. This all-embracing conception thus imposes its logic and leads the "theologies of liberation" to accept a series of positions which are incompatible with the Christian vision of humanity. In fact, the ideological core borrowed from Marxism, which we are referring to, exercises the function of a 'determining principle'. It has this role in virtue of its being described as "scientific", that is to say, true of necessity. In this core, we can distinguish several components. 2. According to the logic of Marxist thought, the "analysis" is inseparable from the <praxis>, and from the conception of history to which this 'praxis' is linked. The analysis is for the Marxist an instrument of criticism, and criticism is only one stage in the revolutionary struggle. This struggle is that of the proletarian class, invested with its mission in history. 3. Consequently, for the Marxist, only those who engage in the struggle can work out the analysis correctly. 4. The only true consciousness, then, is the 'partisan' consciousness. It is clear that the concept of 'truth' itself is in question here, and it is totally subverted: there is no truth, they pretend, except in and through the partisan praxis. 5. For the Marxist, the 'praxis', and the truth that comes from it, are partisan 'praxis' and truth because the fundamental structure of history is characterized by 'class-struggle'. There follows, then, the objective necessity to enter into the class struggle, which is the dialectical opposite of the relationship of exploitation, which is being condemned. For the Marxist, the truth is a truth of class: there is no truth but the truth in the struggle of the revolutionary class. 6. The fundamental law of history, which is the law of class struggle, implies that society is founded on violence. To the violence which constitutes the relationship of the domination of the rich over the poor, there corresponds the counter-violence of the revolution, by means of which this domination will be reversed. 7. The class struggle is presented as an objective, necessary law. Upon entering this process on behalf of the oppressed, one "makes" truth, one acts "scientifically". Consequently, the conception of the truth goes hand in hand with the affirmation of necessary violence, and so, of a political amorality. Within this perspective, any reference to ethical requirements calling for courageous and radical institutional and structural reforms makes no sense. 8. The fundamental law of class struggle has a global and universal character. It is reflected in all the spheres of existence: religious, ethical, cultural, and institutional. As far as this law is concerned, none of these spheres is autonomous. In each of them this law constitutes the determining element. 9. In particular, the very nature of ethics is radically called into question because of the borrowing of these theses from Marxism. In fact, it is the transcendent character of the distinction between good and evil, the principle of morality, which is implicitly denied in the perspective of the class struggle.
Another "tricky" way to force a universal change. I remember a good friend of Mother Angelica, a Bishop in Peru, who told of the long time between visits for priests up in the Andes. He was very simple and humble and played a little guitar! He said how much the people loved and awaited these visits and therefore how well prepared and catechized the simple people were for reception of the Eucharist. These areas naturally have a need for more priests since they are really remote and separated and hard to reach but the faith that is there should not be sacrificed to the end of politicizing the very Sacraments themselves. Now then, if all of these "brilliant" and "luving" ministers of Christ (from far away!) would offer themselves for such true missionary work, according to their consecrated calling, one might possibly notice that their motives for Christ's true teachings would show some true personal sacrifice.
No priest can ever break the confessional seal. He would be excommunicated for doing so under canon law. Even if called to the witness stand in a trial and even if the person in the confessional admits crimes or the intention to commit crimes in the future. The priest can withhold absolution and they can inform the authorities if certain people are in danger, but he may never under any circumstances reveal confessional material to anyone even the authorities. http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2008/12/04/can-a-priest-ever-reveal-what-is-said-in-confession/
It should be mandatory to use the screen in the confessional so as to protect the anonymity of those seeking reconciliation and to protect priests as well.
The next thing we will see is signs on the Confessional; WARNING. If you have abused minors Go To Hell. Other sinners may enter the Confessional. On a more serious note, it is curious because didn't Our Lady say at Akita, if sins continue to escalate there will be no more pardon for them. HHMMM. Now it will more than likely be the case that people who abuse children will not be able to go to confession. It would be simpler for the abuser to go to the police, a Priest is powerless to enforce the law. He is only able to advise an abuser to report to the police, the same as a solicitor. Solicitors have a secrecy code as well as Priests; or is it just the Catholic Church that is once again held to ransom. I am absolutely certain, if a penitent told a Priest in Confession an abuse had taken place, he or she would be advised to get counselling and no doubt, the councillor would be able to bring the problem to the attention of the authorities, without getting themselves excommunicated. IMHO
I guess this is how cynical one can become these days where one could easily say "canon law, what's that?" And just as people have sought out priests who have requested (or not) removal from the priesthood in order to perform their "marriages" thinking (or dreaming) they are still actually blessed by the Church, how many would also go to excommunicated priests merely to bless their personal consciences and rationalizations. And of course how many would go to the Sacrament feeling that the priest would comply with the state and "rat them out" vs just giving the advice to go to the authorities and report themselves? This could be the beginning for the rationale for worldwide arrests of priests. They're already imprisoning ministers in Canada for writing about anything, within morality, that does not favor the state's total inclusivity.
Sorry, but THIS is "courageous"??!! Instead just more "tickling" for public consumption to form a "spirit" desirous of this wholly new globalist religion without any such "solvable problems" to have to contend with....a new utopian religion with just a few simple tweaks....in order to serve everyone conveniently....don't cha know! Vatican seeks 'courageous' ideas to combat priest shortage VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican called Friday for courageous proposals to cope with a shortage of priests in the Amazon, and said it wouldn't rule out debate on whether married men could step in to fill the "precariously-thin presence" of the Catholic Church in the vast region. In a preparatory document seeking input from South American bishops for the Vatican's 2019 meeting on the Amazon, organizers also said the church must identify new "official ministries" for women to play in the region. The call was not a suggestion that women could be ordained priests, which Catholic doctrine forbids and Pope Francis has reaffirmed. But it leaves open the door to making official some ministries that women in remote parts of Latin America already perform, including celebrating baptisms. And it calls for "new ways" to increase access to the Eucharist in a part of the world where the church counts around one priest for every 10,000 Catholics and where remote communities can go weeks or months at a time before a priest arrives to celebrate Mass. The call for "courageous, daring and fearless" proposals suggests that the Vatican wants the region's bishops to put forward concrete proposals on whether married men of proven virtue — so-called "viri probati" — could celebrate Mass in places where priests are in short supply. The "viri probati" proposal has been around for decades, but has drawn fresh attention under history's first Latin American pope thanks to his familiarity with the challenges facing the Amazon church. At a press conference Friday, organizers of the Amazon synod said the document and the attached questionnaire will solicit suggestions from regional bishops that will then be incorporated into the document that will guide the October 2019 debate. Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri said he didn't use the term "viri probati" in the document because he wanted to let church leaders in the field make their proposals. "We don't want to preclude anything," he said. Similarly, he didn't identify which "official ministries" women could undertake. Women currently do much of the heavy lifting in the Catholic Church in the Amazon region. Francis has appointed a commission of experts to study the role of women deacons in the early church, presumably with an eye to seeing if an ordained female diaconate could be permissible today. Deacons, an ordained ministry currently reserved to men, can preach and preside at weddings, baptisms and funerals. But only priests can celebrate Mass. Unlike women's ordination, which is forbidden as a matter of church doctrine, the practice of a celibate priesthood in the Latin rite Catholic Church is a discipline that could be changed. Many eastern rite Catholic Churches allow married men to become priests. https://www.yahoo.com/news/vatican-seeks-courageous-ideas-combat-priest-shortage-124409084.html MORE: Vatican document suggests role for married priests, women VATICAN CITY, June 8 (Reuters) - A document for a meeting of Catholic bishops from the Amazon, expected to evaluate ordaining elderly married men as priests for the vast region, says the Church should make "daring proposals". A preparatory document released on Friday also says the meeting, known as a synod, taking place in October 2019, should consider conferring on women in the area some "type of official ministry". The synod will include bishops and other representatives from the nine countries of the Amazon basin and other groups, including indigenous peoples. The document re-states Pope Francis' calls to protect the Amazon from business and consumer greed, saying the region and its natural habitat were vital for the planet. It calls for a solution to the problem of a lack of priests to say Mass for the people in the area of more than seven and a half million sq km (more than three million square miles). "One of the main points to be heard is the cry of thousands of communities deprived of the Sunday Eucharist for long periods of time," the document says. Only priests can say Mass. The document calls for a "process of discernment" within the Church to respond to the "concrete realities of the Amazonian people". It says the Church presence in the Amazon basin "has been spread precariously thin" because of the vast territory and its cultural diversity. The synod is expected to discuss the possibility of ordaining "viri probati" - Latin for men of proven character - to deal with the shortage of priests. Such men would be elderly, outstanding members of the local Catholic community and with grown-up families. Pope Francis, in an interview with a German newspaper last year, said he was willing to consider ordaining older married men as priests in isolated communities, but has ruled out making celibacy optional to tackle a shortage of clergy. "We have to give a thought to whether 'viri probati' are a possibility. We then also need to determine which tasks they could take on, such as in isolated areas," he was quoted as saying. He ruled out opening the priesthood to all married men or watering down the Catholic Church's commitment to celibacy, seen as a virtue that frees priests to devote their lives fully to serve God. The preparatory document also says that, given the size of the region: "It is necessary to identify the type of official ministry that can be conferred on women, taking into account the central role which women play today in the Amazonian Church." The document did not elaborate. It ended with a 30-point questionnaire in which members of the Church in the Amazon were invited to give their opinion of the main challenges facing the area. (Reporting By Philip Pullella; Editing by Janet Lawrence) http://news.trust.org/item/20180608093858-ebieg
I wonder when the bishops and priests will push back on this? The laity, we should be screaming about this and everything else. Very, very sad. And it's disgusting that any of this dismantling is happening. It's Obama, part 2. I can't believe that anyone would convert to Catholicism during this mess. Praying earnestly!
Im not a Catholic but you are not the only Catholic to say this, hence no one tries to convert me. If you want to look at the Vaticans problems check out the relationship between Francis and Rabbi Abraham Skorka (both are Argentinian)
I just banned, 'Leon'. Hi was 'Sha' who was on the forum a short while ago and got kicked off. Bad, bad news. The, 'Leon', I believe refers to Leon Trotsky who believed in inculcating communism through infiltration.
Do these people now in high positions have any real experience of what they "pontificate" about to the world. "Do this or you will die"! They are already in the hands of the globalistic future designers whose only real intention is population control so the world will have only room for them. They are already controlling communication of "news", getting bigger in food sourcing, banking, transportation while they use "naive" followers who represent to the world institutions long time credited for "good". While they are being exposed there will be mayhem to pay as their time is shortened and hysteria mounts. Yes, humans are to blame.....by their sins to which nature is rebelling.....and these "progressives" want no borders for morality either. Pope warns oil executives: Climate change may ‘destroy civilization’ Pope Francis on Saturday issued a dire warning to top oil executives, saying that climate change could “destroy civilization.” At a two-day conference at the Vatican, the pope called climate change a challenge of “epochal proportions,” according to Reuters. He also said that the world must move toward using clean energy and a reduction in the use of fossil fuels. “Civilization requires energy but energy use must not destroy civilization,” Pope Francis said. The conference, organized by the University of Notre Dame in the United States, brought together executives from asset manager BlackRock, BP and Norwegian oil and energy company Equinor, among others. The event was prompted by Pope Francis’ 2015 papal encyclical blaming humans for climate change and criticizing world leaders for not acting swiftly enough to address it. The conference comes about one year after President Trump pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Climate Accord. Trump has referred to global warming as a “hoax” and drawn criticism from the science community for stacking his administration with officials who deny the human role in climate change. During a meeting with Trump, the pope gave him a copy of the encyclical. The pope told the group Saturday that global issues like poverty are “interconnected” to concerns about global warming and access to electricity. “We know that the challenges facing us are interconnected,” he said, according to Reuters. “If we are to eliminate poverty and hunger ... the more than one billion people without electricity today need to gain access to it.” “But that energy should also be clean, by a reduction in the systematic use of fossil fuels,” he added. “Our desire to ensure energy for all must not lead to the undesired effect of a spiral of extreme climate changes due to a catastrophic rise in global temperatures, harsher environments and increased levels of poverty.” http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...tives-climate-change-may-destroy-civilization
