The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    It is one thing for leftists to loud warning about the pollution of sin proliferating across this planet. rail about global warming and man made pollution. Okay. I would be foolish to deny that our greed and arrogance has an impact on the environment. Of course it does. It's all around us. BUT the Vicar of Christ should be sending out a loud warning about the proliferation of sin across our planet. The root cause of every other problem! The one begets the other. And if he won't do this in all the anointed authority of his sacred office then WHO will?
     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    My phone is garbling what I just posted. Hope you can decode it.
     
  3. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

  4. A very rough translation of a portion of the June 8 message to Luz de Maria:


    WELL KNOW CHILDREN, THAT SATAN HAS CREATED A GREAT AND POWERFUL EMPIRE FROM WHERE AND THROUGH HIS TENTACLES, MANEUVERS THE HAPPENINGS OF HUMANITY: the fashions, the immorality, the abortion with complacency, the euthanasia, the permissions contrary to Our Will, the vices of all kinds, the unbridled desire of the flesh, the acts that embarrass Me on behalf of some of My favorite children, the lack of charity by allowing My children to die of hunger, greed, insults to My true instruments, denying the Calls of My Mother, diseases developed in laboratories, compromises between international organizations against My People, religious persecutions ...

    The evil has been determined to immobilize the thought of man incapacitating him not to be creative, but be a follower, with this My children do not think, but welcome the thoughts of others that are saturated with evil, with a clear goal: to take over the mind of Humanity.

    MY CHILDREN HAVE TO INDEPENDIZE THEIR BAD TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE THROUGH IT THE DEMON HOARDS, ABSORBS AND CANCELS THE GIFT POSSESSED BY MAN: COMMUNICATION AND FRATERNITY.

    My beloved people, the devil does not spend a moment without working to lose souls. My People doze in the midst of human whims. My Mother will not tire of calling you, this is the Order of Our Trinity towards Her.



    .......And from June 6 message from Jesus:


    My people: pray, pray quickly, the waters move and enter coastal cities.


    Beloved People of Mine, pray, you will look at a star that stands out in the sky, pray firmly, do not forget that a celestial body will approach Earth causing humankind to panic.

    Beloved My People, pray, a new epidemic comes to light and threatens the world population, man knows how to treat it, but it will not succeed, since it is resistant to the old medications.

    Beloved People of Mine, pray for Thailand, fire comes out of its volcanoes.
     
  5. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    This makes sense given recent history E97D6622-6799-4D2E-B85B-252B65125900.png
     
  6. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    I wish the Pope would stop weighing in on political b.s. and start weighing in on sin and it's effects. But it would fall on deaf ears because a great part of the world does not believe in sin or its correlation to life on this planet
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I remembered to pray for the Holy Father last night and felt quite proud of myself, I keep forgetting . I feel a little less bitter about everything now; less angry. It has all gotten so hideous and bad now it is beyond being bitter and outraged . All I can say is we have come to a very,very dark place indeed. I find myself handing it all over to the good God.

    I admit to being very confused and concerned as to how otherwise very good and holy Catholics remain unconcerned and happy with things. How could this be at this dark stage? It occurs to me in prayer that there are two distinct evils in life. The evil itself..and the refusal to recognise evil. The priest child abuse thing was a good example of this.

    Oh well more prayers!!

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/com...parolin-attending-a-bilderberg-group-meeting/

    Why is Cardinal Parolin attending a Bilderberg Group meeting?
    by Fr Alexander Lucie-Smith
    posted Friday, 8 Jun 2018
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    Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin (CNS)
    The gathering in Turin will raise his international profile still further

    The Bilderberg Group is meeting in Turin this week, and Cardinal Pietro Parolin will be present. Cardinal Parolin is the Vatican’s Secretary of State, arguably the most senior official in the Vatican and the nearest thing the Holy See has to a prime minister.

    The Bilderberg Group is viewed by conspiracy theorists as something of a shadow world government, but a quick look at the list of participants, published on its website, reveals something a lot less threatening. While there are many famous names there from the worlds of banking, academia, journalism and politics, few are people who currently hold the levers of power in national governments.

    But the cardinal’s presence is certainly worthy of comment, especially as he has not been invited before and will be the only religious figure present. The Church is deeply committed to dialogue, but, as often happens, has difficulty in finding the right partners for dialogue, particularly with the sort of people who will be well represented at Bilderberg.

    One hopes that His Eminence, in the various meetings and on their fringes, will find people who wish to talk to him about the Church’s social teaching, for example. Other matters that may be aired will be environmental issues, on which the Church has something to say, and, one hopes, life issues as well.

    On this latter topic, as recent events in Ireland and in Britain have shown, the Church is struggling to get a hearing. One certainly hopes that pro-life activists, who are so committed to the cause, will not be disheartened, and that Cardinal Parolin will be putting the case for the sanctity of life in the Bilderberg Group – after all, it is an essential part of any true human ecology.

    The cardinal is extremely well travelled, though most of his trips don’t make the newspapers beyond the countries he visits. His knowledge of the world will surely be of interest to the other participants in the meeting. Cardinal Parolin has been to Russia, and the Vatican has been at pains to keep channels open with the ecclesial and secular powers there. This last fact may help the Holy See with its latest tricky interlocutor, the new Italian government, which is also eager to repair relations with Russia, though otherwise out of sympathy with the Vatican especially on the question of migration.

    This latter issue is close to Pope Francis’s heart, and it is perhaps the treatment of migrants that will be at the forefront of the cardinal’s personal agenda in Turin. Several influential Italians will be present, though not a single member of the new Italian government.

    His participation in the Bilderberg meeting will certainly raise the cardinal’s profile internationally, but none of the people taking part will have a vote in the next papal election. On that front, his other travels count for far more: wherever he goes, Cardinal Parolin always meets local cardinals, and must now be about the only member of the Sacred College who is known to all the other widely scattered members.
     
  8. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Bad news or not Leon brings up a very valid point regarding the ecumenicism and camaraderie between Pope Francis and Rabbi Abraham Skorka of which there are plenty of examples online to see.
     
  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

  10. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    How good can we be if we ignore the corruption of the Truth through apathy? It is like the watcher on the wall who losing Faith in Christ at the sight of the horde makes an arrangement with the invader to pass over his house for his silence. Sure, his home is safe now, while the future generations of his house are doomed through his act to worship false gods and idols.
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Matthew 24:12 "And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold". The world does not look for truth and we are in the whirl wind of apostasy. Charity is no longer sought after. It is a sign the Antichrist is in our midst.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Sometimes we can walk with a brother up to a certain point and argue and discuss with them the path to take. Then we reach a certain fork in the road and we have to leave them to run the downward path while we trudge upwards and onwards. The evil here has grown to such an extent that I find it has become so.

    Matthew 18

    Dealing With Sin in the Church

    15 “If your brother or sisterb]">[b] sins,c]">[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’d]">[d] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.


    18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will bee]">[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will bef]">[f] loosed in heaven.

    19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    I have heard this over and over. My own cousin experienced this. The seminaries in many cases are the problem. God still calls men to the priesthood but so many seminaries are bad news. No wonder FSSP are booming and other traditional orders as well.
     
  14. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    My step father left the seminary in the late 60's. I asked him once about why he left and he gave me "the look" and would not tell me. He left seminary and went to Vietnam. It took him many years to come back to the Church.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    Same thing with my cousin. He found his way back but it was a hard journey.
     
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  16. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Our diocese had its own chapter in “Goobye Good Men.” We’ve seen it over and over here too unfortunately.
     
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  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am wearing my decoder ring
    :D
     
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  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I believe the Bilderbergs to be a part of the New World Order and it concerns me that Cardinal Parolin is attending the meeting.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

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  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I agree. It's all a tight little network. The Presbyterian friend got a nice little gig editing the official Catholic newspaper in Argentina. The Rabbi got a job as Professor in Philadelphia's Jesuit University: https://www.sju.edu/news-events/new...university-professor-saint-josephs-university

    Well, we are called to take care of others, although I'm not so sure that "jobs for the boys" falls into that category.
     
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