The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Sg, Yes, I think that you should listen to it. I listened to it in 3 sittings, around 1 hour each time. I actually just finished the last hour of it this morning. Father Martin makes some generalizations about some things but now I think it is very good and I am very glad that I listened to the whole thing.

    It is quite amazing that Malachi Martin talks about Our Lady appearing in the sky and when this sign occurs big things will occur in the world soon after it. He also mentions Our Lady of Revelation briefly and the associated date of April 12th, etc. I have often thought that it is possible that a future April 12th will be a crucial day, maybe this year but maybe some other year in the future. In the interview, he states that he thought that the sign of Our Lady could appear soon after the interview but if it did not it would be several years in the future, this is very, very interesting. I wonder if this was part of a prophecy that he was privy to and I wonder if the sign that occurred in 2017 of the Woman Clothed with Sun involving Virgo and Jupiter that we discussed so much on MOG is the sign that he was referring to in the interview. It is also interesting that they use a picture in the video of Father Martin standing in front of the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe. (Cardinal Burke also has a very strong connection to Our Lady of Guadalupe, he was instrumental in having a shrine built to Her in the USA.)

    The other interesting thing about April 12th is that is sits in between the feast day of two eucharistic martyrs either of whom could be associated with the Miracle of Garabandal. This year April 11th is a Thursday which is the day of the week that the Miracle is prophesized to occur on, the feast day of Saint Stansilaus. April 13th is a Saturday this year and is the feast day of Saint Hermenegild. Both of these saints are eucharistic martyrs. To be clear, I am not making any predictions I'm just pointing these things out and reminding us to be ready just in case.

    Thank you again for posting the video!
     
  2. Arantxa

    Arantxa Angels

    Just a reminder Our Lady of Guadalupe feast date is 12/12.
     
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  3. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I agree Carol..it worth listening to! Amazing stuff!
     
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  4. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    It's the secular humanist religion. It is happening now. None of us can avoid it and all of us will be tested. If the goal is full implementation by 2030 we are very far along the path they laid out long ago to see it's fulfillment. Marshal hit on it, they hid until they were safe and now it is all in plain sight. Even among our own.

    Rejoice, the Kingdom of Heaven draws near. God will avenge his children who cry out to Him.
     
  5. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Agree..lGod wins This...we will just have to fight the good fight till we are gone.
     
  6. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    The March 14th World Over programme was very interesting.

    It begins with a discussion about Cardinal Pell's trial. I think it must be clear now to any fair minded person that if the defendant had been anyone other than Cardinal Pell or a Catholic cleric the case would never have gone to trial. There have been other allegations made against the Cardinal, but if this is the best the Aussie judicial system could do to convict him of something/anything, it says more about their shortcomings than the Cardinal's character.

    Bishop Strickland is the second guest on the programme. Bishops like him remind me that God hasn't completely abandoned us. We must pray for more like him although, sadly, it's very unlikely that someone with his faith will be raised to the level of Cardinal.

    The last segment of the programme is the most informative. It's an interview with the priest biographer of Fr. Hesburgh who set out to destroy Catholic education in Notre Dame university and succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. I found the interview informative because it confirms the suspicion that what happened to Catholic higher education and subsequently filtered down to all levels of Catholic education didn't happen by accident but was planned by Fr. Hessburgh and other, mostly Jesuit, priest educators at Land O'Lakes. Although the biographer didn't mention it, I'm sure I read that former Cardinal McCarrick was also part of that notorious gathering. I was flabbergasted to see a Catholic priest mention as though in passing that Fr. Hesburgh was influenced by the eugenics sponsoring Rockefeller Foundation. He tried to pass it all off as Fr. Hesburgh wanting to implement the decisions of Vatican 2. What is glaringly obvious to any Catholic looking at the damage he and his cohorts have done to the Church is that Fr. Hesburgh & Co invented a so-called "spirit" of Vatican 2 to implement what the Council didn't sanction but would have sanctioned had they been Pope and Bishops. The much vaunted "Spirit of Vatican 11" is actually the agenda of the Rockefeller Foundation.

    Fr. Hesburgh is dead. Good riddance to him. We should pray that God will be merciful to him - more merciful than Hesburgh and his cohorts have been to the countless innocent victims of abortion who didn't have the advantage of a large living space over Notre Dame's library. With their heads crushed or their spinal cords cut, they had no library named after them. They had no name at all. I suspect that all those babies will see the light of Heaven long, long before Hesburgh and his Land O'Lakes conspirators. As to the biographer, he claims to have written an honest biography of his friend which may attract some criticism from Hesburgh devotees. As a priest, he should be far, far more concerned about what God thinks of his friend and friendship. Shame on them - empty sepulchres every last one of them who abandoned fear of the Lord for critical acclaim from secular academics. Bishop Barron would have us believe that they all will be saved. I suppose they think so too. Maybe they will, but, as Jesus said, it won't be before they pay the last penny. How many Rockefeller pennies bought the destruction of Catholic education? Do the worldly wise of Notre Dame and Jesuit institutions think that fancy libraries will buy them credit with God? If there are any faithful Catholics at Notre Dame or the likes of Jesuit Georgetown, it's in spite of Hesburgh and his cronies.

    I've made a resolution not to criticise the Pope during Lent. That he's a "Spirit of Vatican 11" Jesuit makes Lenten resolutions very hard to keep.

    Here's a link to the programme:

     
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  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

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    Francis poses with group that promotes homosexual fornication and same-sex "marriage"


    Gloria TV reports:

    "After the Ash Wednesday General Audience, Pope Francis posed with the homosexual English LGBT+Catholics Westminster.

    The groups’ leader, Martin Pendergast, called the meeting 'one more evidence' that Francis is pro-gay, IndCatholicNews.com (March 11) writes.

    Westminster Cardinal Vincent Nichols is close to “LGBT+ Catholics Westminster” although they promote homosexual fornication, gay pseudo-marriage and gay marches.

    The Catechism states that homosexual acts are of 'grave depravity' and 'intrinsically disordered'.

    As the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has stated:

    "Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

    In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection."

    The CDF has also taught clearly that, "All support should be withdrawn from any organizations which seek to undermine the teaching of the Church, which are ambiguous about it, or which neglect it entirely. Such support, or even the semblance of such support, can be gravely msinterpreted...Special attention should be given to the...use of Church buildings by these groups, including the facilities of Catholic schools and colleges. To some, such permission to use Church property may seem only just and charitable; but in reality it is contradictory to the purpose for which these institutions were founded, it is misleading and often scandalous." (Letter to Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons).

    http://lasalettejourney.blogspot.com/2019/03/francis-poses-with-group-that-promotes.html
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Why is Pope Francis posing with a group of pro LGBT , 'Catholics', when the Church itself teaches that:

    All support should be withdrawn from any organizations which seek to undermine the teaching of the Church, which are ambiguous about it, or which neglect it entirely. Such support, or even the semblance of such support, can be gravely msinterpreted...Special attention should be given to the...use of Church buildings by these groups, including the facilities of Catholic schools and colleges. To some, such permission to use Church property may seem only just and charitable; but in reality it is contradictory to the purpose for which these institutions were founded, it is misleading and often scandalous." (Letter to Bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons).

    Sigh.

    I give up, he's constantly at this stuff. He's supposed to be the Head of the Church, yet he sells us out all the time.

    Remember the time he had Italy's top pro Abortionist in the Vatican, shook her hand and told the whole world how wonderful she was?

    It's as if I fed and walked my dogs every day only to have time try to bite me when I get them back home.

     
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  9. Mario

    Mario Powers


    Dolours,

    The information concerning Cardinal Pell reveals more than just shortcomings on the part of Aussie justice (at least in this case); it reveals a hatred of the Church taken out on an individual man. It is what we will all soon face if we remain committed to the Bride of Christ.

    What is Pell's sentence? Six years in solitary confinement. There's a token nod to "christianity" in that he is allowed a Bible and one visitor per week. However, he is denied his breviary and is allowed neither bread nor wine to celebrate Holy Mass. :eek::cry: It might as well be a North Vietnamese prison with a few amenities added. Aside from the question of guilt- pure hatred.

    Lord, keep us faithful!

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I would be happier Terry if I did not have the uneasy suspicion that he been set up by his, 'Own' ,people in the Vatican for exposing financial thefts there.

    Solitary confinement keeps his mouth shut.

    The best way to keep his mouth shut would be if he were to die.

    I would be surprised is he does not , in fact, die long before his release date ; as indeed his sentencing Judge indicated.

    To keep his mouth permanently shut.
     
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  11. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Yes, but trying to shut down his spiritual sustenance goes beyond silence!

    Anyway, there will be a false church in the future, Padraig, which might be quite willing to permanently shut us up, too!

    My parents gave me the middle name, Stephen, and I, as a 4th grader chose the Confirmation name, Abel! Nothing like having the names of the 1st OT martyr and the 1st NT martyr!:whistle::barefoot::eek::LOL:

    Safe Under Mary's Mantle!
     
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  12. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    It looks like the Cardinal is the victim of a witch hunt in this case. If I were Australian, Catholic or not, I would be concerned about the police making what was effectively a public appeal for someone to bring an accusation against an individual when no crime had been reported to them. What they got away with doing to Cardinal Pell they can also do to any citizen. Cardinal Pell had already been judged guilty in the court of public opinion for supposedly protecting a notorious paedophile, yet the police brought no charges against him for that, presumably because they had even less evidence than the flimsy case for which he was tried twice and convicted on the second attempt. The lavender lobby is very powerful both inside and outside the Church, so once they get on your case you are almost guaranteed a loss of livelihood if not imprisonment. Then again, as a famous person said, who am I to judge?

    Mario, the false church is here and has seized power over Christ's Church. I'm afraid that the true Church founded by Jesus is getting a makeover. Watch that World Over video again and listen to that Notre Dame priest talk about putting his friendship with Hesburgh ahead of his duty to admonish a fellow priest. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing, and if there were any good Holy Cross priests they stood back and basked in the glory of evil Hesburgh's triumph. The biographer is on Raymond Arroyo's show because he's promoting the book he wrote about his evil friend, presumably written to justify his own friendship with evil personified. He wouldn't be on that show if he wasn't appealing to faithful Catholics to buy his book. That his pitch is about how, post Hesburgh's demise, he now sees what countless Catholics have been complaining about for decades is no more than a sales pitch. That he has the gall to claim that Hesburgh's intentions were good but mistaken is an insult to Arroyo's viewers.

    I think it was St. Anthony of the Desert who prophesied that the end would come when the Church and the world are one. We're there. Keep your lamp lit.
     
  13. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    Cardinal Pell is bound by his oath of confidentiality about Vatican affairs (routine, I understand, for any priest, bishop or cardinal working in the Vatican whose role involves handling sensitive information). He might also be bound by the secrecy of the confessional if any of the embezzlers asked to confess to him before he managed to report them - in which case, he couldn't even inform the Pope of information that he had obtained about those individuals' financial crimes. Taylor Marshall believes that this technique may have been used to close down investigations into sexual sins/crimes so there is no reason to believe that it might not also have been employed for financial crimes.
    There might be no way that he could 'spill the beans' without putting himself in spiritual peril and others would know this but as an honest man (assuming him to be such) he would have been a great danger to the thieves if his work had continued. The resignations of several senior lay auditors (who are probably also committed by oath to confidentiality) is an indication that money has been going missing to a significant extent and that the 'powers that be' are not inclined to act.
     
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  14. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Carol, I do not know for sure what Fr. Malachi Martin was referring to, but he would often say there would be some sign in the heavens in the next few years and if not then we have more time. He often said this in the mid-late 1990's. I think he felt something would happen before the year 2000 and if not then the Chastisement was delayed. This follows with approved prophecy. Sister Jeanne LeRoyer has a similar prophecy that there would be a punishment by the year 2000 and if not it would be delayed, but not more than 2 decades. I am rushed for time right now and I can't easily locate the one that mentions the Judgement being delayed but not later than 2020. I will attach some of her other prophecies below. I think the same thing was mentioned in the secret told to Maximin Giraud from LaSalette.

    Sister Jeanne Royer made the following predictions back in the 18th century:

    …One day I found myself in a vast plain alone with God. Jesus appeared to me and from the top of a small hill showing me a beautiful sun in the horizon. He said dolefully: “the world is passing away and the time of my coming draws near. When the sun is about to set one knows that the day is nearly over and that night will soon fall. Centuries are like days for me. Look at this sun; see how much it still has to travel and estimate the time that is left in the world.“ I looked intently and it seemed to me that the sun would set in about 2 hours. Jesus said “Do not forget that those are not millenaries but only centuries and they are few in number” But I understood that Jesus reserved to Himself the knowledge of the exact number and I did not wish to ask him more. It sufficed me to know the peace of the church and the restoration of the discipline were to last a reasonably long time…

    "Woe ! Woe ! Woe to the last century !
    Here is what God wanted to show me in his Light. I began looking in the light of God, the century which must begin in 1800; I saw by this light that judgement wasn't there, and that it wouldn't be the last century. I considered, thanks to the same light, the century of 1900, until the end, to see positively if it would be the last. Our Lord made me know, and at the same time made me doubt, if it would be at the end of the century of 1900, or in that of 2000. But what I saw, it is that if the judgment arrived in the century of 1900, it would come only towards the end, and that if the world exceeds this century, the one of 2000 will not pass without the judgment intervening, as I saw it in the light of God
    ."

    “I see that the century which begins in 1800 shall not yet be the last. The reign of Antichrist is approaching. The thick vapors which I have seen rising from the earth and obscuring the light of the sun are the false maxims of irreligion and licence which are confounding all sound principles and spreading everywhere such darkness as to obscure both faith and reason.


    “One day I heard a voice which said: ‘The new Constitution will appear to many other than what it really is. They will bless it as a gift from heaven; whereas, it is in fact sent from hell and permitted by God in His just wrath. It will only be by its effects that people will be led to recognize the Dragon who wanted to destroy all and devour all.


    “One night I saw a number of ecclesiastics. Their haughtiness and air of severity seemed to demand the respect of all. They forced the faithful to follow them. But God commanded me to oppose them: ‘They no longer have the right to speak in my name.’ Jesus told me. ‘It is against My wish that they carry out a mandate for which they are no longer worthy.’


    “I saw a great power rise up against the Church. It plundered, devastated, and threw into confusion and disorder the vine of the Lord, having it trampled underfoot by the people and holding it up to ridicule by all nations. Having vilified celibacy and oppressed the priesthood, it had the effrontery to confiscate the Church’s property and to arrogate to itself the powers of the Holy Father, whose person and whose laws it held in contempt.


    “I had a vision: Before the Father and the Son – both seated – a virgin of incomparable beauty, representing the Church, was kneeling. The Holy Ghost spread His shining wings over the virgin and the two other persons. The wounds of Our Lord seemed alive. Leaning on the Cross with one hand, He offered to His Father with the other hand the chalice which the Master held in the middle. The Father placed one hand on the up and raised the other to bless the virgin.


    “I noticed that the chalice was only half-filled with blood, and I heard these words spoken by the Savior at the moment of presentation: ‘I shall not be fully satisfied until I am able to fill it right up to the brim.’ I understood then that the contents of the chalice represented the blood of the early martyrs, and that this vision had reference to the last persecutions of the Christians, whose blood would fill the chalice, thereby completing the number of martyrs and predestined. For at the end of time, there will be as many martyrs as in the early Church, and even more, for the persecutions will be far more violent. Then the Last Judgment will no longer be delayed.


    “I see in God that a long time before the rise of Antichrist the world will be afflicted with many bloody wars. Peoples will rise against peoples, and nations will rise against nations, sometimes allied, sometimes enemies, in their fight against the same party. Armies will come into frightful collisions and will fill the earth with murder and carnage.


    “These internal and foreign wars will cause enormous sacrifices, profanations, scandals, and infinite evils, because of the incursions that will be made into the Church.


    “As well as that, I see that the earth will be shaken in different places by frightful earthquakes. I see whole mountains cracking and splitting with a terrible din. Only too happy will one be in one can escape with no more than a fright; but no, I see come out of these gaping mountains whirlwinds of smoke, fire, sulphur, and tar, which reduce to cinders entire towns. All this and a thousand other disasters must come before the rise of the Man of Sin."

    Continued...

     
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  15. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Continued...

    “I saw in the light of the Lord that the faith and our holy Religion would become weaker in almost every Christian kingdom. God has permitted that they should be chastised by the wicked in order to awaken them from their apathy. And after the justice of God has been satisfied, He will pour out an abundance of graces on His Church, and He will spread the Faith and restore the discipline of the Church in those countries where it had become tepid and lax.


    “I saw in God that our Mother, Holy Church, will spread in many countries and will produce her fruits in abundance to compensate for the outrages she will have suffered from the impiety and the persecutions of her enemies.


    “I was the poor people, weary of the arduous labors and trials that God sent to them, shall then be thrilled with a joy that God will infuse in their good hearts. The Church will become by her faith and by her love, more fervent and more flourishing than ever. Our good Mother the Church will witness many amazing things, even on the part of her former persecutors, for they will come forward and throw themselves at her feet, acknowledge her, and implore pardon from God and from here for all the crimes and outrages that they had perpetrated against her. She will no longer regard them as her enemies, but she will instead welcome them as her own children.


    “Now all the true penitents will flow from all sides to the Church, which will receive them into her bosom. The entire community of the faithful will pour out their hearts in hymns of penance and thanksgiving to the glory of the Lord.


    “I see in God a great power, led by the Holy Ghost, which will restore order through a second upheaval. I see in God a large assembly of pastors who will uphold the rights of the Church and of her Head. They will restore the former disciplines. I see, in particular, two servants of the Lord who will distinguish themselves in this glorious struggle and who, by the grace of the Holy Ghost, will fill with ardent zeal the hearts of this illustrious assembly.


    “All the false cults will be abolished; all the abuses of the Revolution will be destroyed and the altars of the true God restored. The former practices will be put into force again, and our religion – at least in some respects – will flourish more than ever.


    “I see in God that the Church will enjoy a profound peace over a period which seems to me to be of a fairly long duration. This respite will be the longest of all that will occur between the revolutions form now till the General Judgment. The closer we draw to the General Judgment, the shorter will be the revolutions against the Church. The kind of peace that will follow each revolution will be shorter also. This is so because we are approaching the End of Time, and little time will be left for either the elect to do good or for the wicked to do evil.


    “One day the Lord said to me: ‘A few years before the coming of my enemy, Satan will raise up false prophets who will announce Antichrist as the true Messiah, and they will try to destroy all our Christian beliefs. And I shall make the children and the old people prophesy. The closer we get to the reign of Antichrist, the more will the darkness of Satan spread over the earth, and the more will his satellites increase their efforts to trap the faithful in their net’.


    “When the reign of Antichrist draws near, a false religion will appear which will deny the unity of God and will oppose the Church. Errors will cause ravages as never before.


    “One day I found myself in a vast plain alone with God. Jesus appeared to me and from the top of a small hill, showed to me a beautiful sun on the horizon. He said dolefully: ‘The world is passing away and the time of My second coming draws near. When the sun is about to set, one knows that the day is nearly over and that the night will soon fall. Centuries are like days for me. Look at this sun, see how much it still has to travel, and estimate the time that is left to the world.’


    “I looked intently and it seemed to me that the sun would set in two hours. Jesus said: ‘Do not forget that these are not millenaries, but only centuries, and they are few in number.


    “But I understood that Jesus reserved to Himself the knowledge of the exact number, and I did not wish to ask Him more. It sufficed me to know that the peace of the Church and the restoration of discipline were to last a reasonably long time.


    “God has manifested to me the malice of Lucifer and the perverse and diabolical intentions of his henchmen against the Holy Church of Jesus Christ. At the command of their master these wicked men have crossed the world like furies to prepare the way and the place for Antichrist, whose reign is approaching. Through the corrupted breath of their proud spirit they have poisoned the minds of men. Like persons infected with pestilence, they have communicated the evil to each other, and the contagion has become general. The storm began in France, and France shall be the first theater of its ravages after having been its cradle. The Church in Council shall one day strike with anathemas, pull down and destroy the evil principles of that criminal constitution. What a consolation! What a joy for the truly faithful!”
     
  16. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    As much as I hate this I am so happy the prelates are doing it in the open now. They have been doing this garbage for decades under cover of stealth. Now they are not hiding who they all are anymore. They rushed out of the woodwork into the light of day. They can never hide again.
     
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  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    You never know, maybe he will win some converts!
     
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  18. Praetorian

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    I have seen more family members and friends have their faith ignited by this pontificate than any other in my lifetime. Not because they like the changes being made, but precisely because they sense innately that something is wrong in them and that makes them search for the Truth. God can truly bring good out of anything.
     
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