According to Bernadette Mary did not ask her to eat grass. She definitely didn't ask her to catch a dropped Jesus. http://www.garabandal.org/BrownBook/BrownBookP198.htm
We could go round & round in circles & I would never convince you nor do I want to. What is true is that the Church has stated a Catholic can officially go on pilgrimage to Medjugorje. Whilst that does not authenticate the messages it is an approval of the abundant fruits that flow from there. And as Jesus said 'by their fruits ye shall know'.
Irrespective -- the point is she was mocked for obeying God. On 24th February, the apparition spoke again: ‘Penance! Penance! Penance! Pray to God for sinners.’ She asked Bernadette to kiss the ground for the conversion of sinners. The following day the crowd saw Bernadette at the back of the grotto scraping in the mud, drinking the muddy water that had appeared there and smearing her face with it. She then ate the leaves of a bitter plant that was growing nearby. She had been told: ‘Go and drink at the spring and wash yourself in it.’ Many now became dismissive of Bernadette, believing her to be mad. The spring had not existed before. Sometimes the things of God are not initially clear cut.
Amen.... thats whats great about this blog...you and me actually have a place to even discuss these issues that we may or may not agree on. I appreciate our disagreements on this subject, because I believe we agree on many more subjects just for the simple fact we are on this blog..God Bless.
No harm in having a good honest debate -- agreed -- The key is to pray and stay. Pray the Rosary. Stay under the mantle of our Lady.
Just pointing out the differences between St. Bernadette and Vicka's actions. I agree the fruit is good so far - but honestly I wouldn't expect it to be to be any other way with millions of faithful going there on retreat with Mass and Confession available; Servant of God Father John Hardon was of the opinion of to. Like I said though, I'm content riding it out. We probably won't agree on this side of heaven, but I wager you a beer when (please God) we make it. Then we can all laugh about it.
OK. So she drinks muddy water and smears her face with it..... Its a miraculous spring. Why would she ask Vicka to catch a dropped Jesus?
Some things of God I do not understand - But the Scriptures tell us 'we must fix our eyes on Jesus the author and perfector of our faith' (Hebrews 12v2)
You are so right.... so many things of God I don't understand... I'm constantly questioning him...lol
Thinking about the Trinity is a real challenge to my faith as it blows my mind that God is three in one. Was never that good at Maths
Of course it does. I, and others on here, have been there and things happened there that have never happened at any other place or time. I was 'told' with great clarity that I must say the Rosary, that I was guilty of hypocrisy, that I must tell others about my experiences, that I must be brave and talk to my siblings to encourage them to return to the faith etc. etc. If I had never received these 'messages' many good things would not have happened. If the visionaries are false, it would be strange that Our Lady does so much there, perhaps more than She does in any other place in the whole world. The signs tell us that She is there, why not go there and benefit from some?
https://www.romancatholicman.com/truth-about-communion-in-the-hand-while-standing/ An Indult Born Out of Disobedience The practice of receiving Holy Communion in the hand first began to spread in Catholic circles during the early 1960s, primarily in Holland. Shortly after Vatican II, due to the escalating abuses in certain non-English speaking countries (Holland, Belgium, France and Germany), Pope Paul VI took a survey of the world’s bishops to ascertain their opinions on the subject. On May 28, 1969 the Congregation for Divine Worship issued Memoriale Domini, which concluded: “From the responses received, it is thus clear that by far the greater number of bishops feel that the present discipline [i.e., Holy Communion on the tongue] should not be changed at all, indeed that if it were changed, this would be offensive to the sensibility and spiritual appreciation of these bishops and of most of the faithful.” After he had considered the observation and the counsel of the bishops, the Supreme Pontiff judged that the long-received manner of ministering Holy Communion to the faithful should not be changed. The Apostolic See then strongly urged bishops, priests and the laity to zealously observe this law out of concern for the common good of the Church. Despite the vote, in 1969 Pope Paul VI decided to strike a compromise with his disobedient bishops on the continent. Given “the gravity of the matter,” the pope would not authorize Communion in the hand. He was, however, open to bestowing an indult – an exception to the law – under certain conditions: first, an indult could not be given to a country in which Communion in the hand was not an already established practice; second, the bishops in countries where it was established must approve of the practice “by a secret vote and with a two-thirds majority.” Beyond this, the Holy See set down seven regulations concerning communion in the hand; failure to maintain these regulations could result in the loss of the indult. The first three regulations concerned: 1) respecting the laity who continue the traditional practice (of receiving kneeling and on the tongue), 2) maintaining the laity’s proper respect of the Eucharist, and 3) strengthening the laity’s faith in the real presence. Bernardin’s Campaign So how did Communion in the hand come to America? In 1975 and again in 1976, Archbishop Joseph Bernardin, the president of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops (NCCB) attempted in vain to garner two-thirds of the bishops to vote in favor of receiving Communion in the hand. The following year – which coincided with the end of Bernardin’s term as president – brought one final attempt. Bernadin appointed Archbishop Quinn, who became Bernardin’s immediate successor as NCCB president, to be the chief lobbyist for Communion in the hand. During the proceedings a brave bishop requested a survey of the bishops be taken – this survey would ask each bishop whether or not Communion in the hand was widely practiced in his diocese, for without the practice’s current wide-use the first condition of the indult would not be satisfied. *Of course, everyone knew that Communion in the hand was not a previously established practice in the United States. Though his request was seconded and supported in writing by five other bishops, Bernardin had the motion dismissed as “out of order.” The bishops then voted … only to once more fall short of the two-thirds majority. This, however, did not end the matter. Bernardin decided to (unlawfully) begin gathering “absentee votes” from any bishop he could find – including retired bishops who no longer administered any dioceses. Consequently, the number was adjusted to meet the two-thirds majority.
I would dispute this statement. There has not been a miraculous host on the tongue of a seer, but there have been other phenomena.
