Interesting thought Luan. I have thought of this too. So far he hasn't (to my knowledge) but popes are free to do whatever they wish regarding who is allowed to elect their successor. It has become the custom that the College of Cardinals (with age restrictions) have been given that job, but it doesn't need to be that way. He could, for example, pick 12 men and say those men will elect his successor. I think he will stick with the College, but who knows?
We must try to unite. It is imperative. I know we all have our differences, but they are very minor differences when compared to the Modernists who are running things now. As Ben Franklin said "We must all hang together, or most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." We are entering a battle. Let's learn how to march together.
I saw some articles online that said a number of bishops and cardinals told the pope they would not attend the Mass if he had the idols there. To my knowledge they were not present.
Are married priests and women deacons the answer to the crisis in the Catholic Church? A resounding NO! The Synod was then all mirrors and smokecreens -- 'ecological conversion' involves a hidden masonic agenda -- diabolical disorientation. The answer is much simpler -- the greatness of Vatican II was the universal call of all to holiness -- from the laity to the Pope -- The challenge is for the Church to help the faithful become holy -- The Church must become more Marian to call on our Lady, help of Christians -- bring back Marian devotions, Rosary, consecrations -- To Jesus through Mary.
“We propose to define ecological sins of commission or omission against God, one’s neighbor, the community and the environment,” paragraph 82 of the final document states. “They are sins against future generations and are manifest in acts and habits of pollution and destruction of the harmony of the environment.” “No believer, no Catholic can live their life of faith without listening to the voice of the earth,” Bishop David Martínez de Aguirre Guinea, apostolic vicar of Puerto Maldonado, Peru explained at a press conference to present the final document Oct. 26. What nonesense -- we listen to the voice of Christ!! More diabolical disorientation --
Pope Francis: The Christian foundations for the care of creation Coinciding with the final days of the Synod for the Amazon, and a few days ahead of the fourth anniversary of “Laudato sí”, a new book has been issued, which gathers together writings and discourses from Pope Francis on the environment. The book aims to explain a Christian vision of ecology. https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/...ian-foundations-for-the-care-of-creation.html More smokescreens and mirrors. The world today is worse than at the time of the flood -- many lay people, priests and bishops are on the road to perdition. Fire is going to fall from the sky and wipe out a greater part of humanity. The axis of the earth will shift moving the very mountains and oceans. And what do we get from this Pontificate -- a focus on 'ecological conversion' and sins against mother Earth. Mother earth is going to teach us a real lesson, Holy Father!!
A prayer to Our Lady from Padre Pio: Have pity on me! May one compassionate look of yours revive me, purify me and lift me up to God; raising me from the filth of this world that I may go to Him Who created me, Who regenerated me in Holy Baptism, giving me back my white stole of innocence that original sin had so defiled. Dear Mother, make me love Him!
Pope Francis needs all the prayers he can get, more than any pope before him. By praying for him, you could not find any better way to connect with him.
I agree. I heard that sermon from Father Terrence. I don't think I can go through the mental gymnastics of parsing everything he says to edit out the disturbing stuff and pull out the orthodox stuff. I just cant.
I have no problem with TLM. What I do have a problem with is the assumption that this is the only proper and preferred option and anything less, well, its just not Catholic. What many of these holier than thou, Latin Mass only, proponents seem to ignore is, there is just a few places around the world where this mass is still said, and the rest of us who can't, through no choice of our own, do not have the means to attend TLM are some how less Catholic. It frustrates me to think those who partake in the novus ordo mass are doing something nearly at the level of participating in a protestant service. I know personally of Eucharistic miracles that came from a novus ordo mass, so the trad's wont get me .
DeGaulle, Absolutely. Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider's suggestion of prayer and fasting for the synod ended yesterday but since Pope Francis needs to make the final decision on the propositions of the synod, I think that we should continue to pray and fast until the pope finishes this task. I heard that he plans on doing so before the end of the year, so roughly another 60 days or so, maybe less but I do believe that this is a good idea.
I heard it would be out in the first few months of the new year. Amoris Laetitia came out in April I believe. So it may be a while until we know anything. This is not to say we all shouldn't keep praying, etc.
P., Many people are questioning as to "why the rush?" but this is what Pope Francis has stated. He [Pope Francis] said he would like to write a post-synodal exhortation on the Amazon synod "before the end of the year so that not much time passes," adding that "it all depends on the time you have to think." https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...hristians-focusing-on-the-little-things-95779 I believe that Edward Pentin also stated this same thing in the video that Padraig posted today. Edited to add: I found a similar quote from the pope in an article from Edward Pentin: Another point of interest is the post-synodal apostolic exhortation. In his closing words of the synod, Pope Francis noted he was not obliged to write one, but said he would nevertheless “like to do it before the end of the year, in such a way that not much time passes. Everything depends on time and I have to think.” http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/three-key-paragraphs-of-amazon-synods-final-document
Ah, okay Carol. I didn't realize that. I stand corrected. If the Pope is planning on expediting the exhortaion then that also might mean that there would be no provision in it for female deacons as he still needs to reconstitute the commission and it needs time to do the study (again). This will be the third commission that I am aware of that has been set up to examine this issue. I guess they have to keep on studying it until they come up with the right answer
Yeah, I'm wholly unsure how to take that one homily of his. I wanted to agree, but somehow, couldn't. Not with all of it.
That's ok Sean. It is my understanding that Pope Francis will not be putting a provision in it for female deacons but the concern is that he will ok the proposition for the Amazon bishops who are mostly in favor of female deacons to have input into the commission which is studying this. Well, that is what I took away from the following video but I am not certain about this. *** Now, this article states the exhortation will come in the beginning of next year. We'll have to wait and see but I do think that Pope Francis' statement bears more weight. Married Priests Barely Pass. Women Deacons Flunk. The Criticisms of a Synod Father October 26, 2019 | http://magister.blogautore.espresso...acons-flunk-the-criticisms-of-a-synod-father/ The synod for the Amazon ended its work today, October 26, with a point-by-point vote on the concluding document. But this document has no normative effect whatsoever. It was simply handed over to Pope Francis so that he may decide what is to be done, and write it in a post-synodal exhortation expected in the early months of the coming year. Further below readers will find an anthology of the most controversial points of the document, with the respective votes for and against. But as a guide for interpreting them it is advisable to take a look first at the appraisal of this synod published yesterday in multiple languages - including Chinese - by “Asia News,” the agency of the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions. Its author is a Uruguayan missionary invited to the synod by Pope Francis, Martín Lasarte Topolanski, whom the readers of Settimo Cielo already know and appreciate from a previous commentary of his. He lists, for this synod, the six things that he liked and the nine that he disliked. The complete text of this dual “vote” is on “Asia News.” While here is reproduced only an abbreviated summary of his votes against. * THE NINE THINGS ABOUT THIS SYNOD THAT I DIDN’T LIKE by Martín Lasarte 1. Too much energy was dedicated to internal Church problems, especially the viri probati and female deaconate. The issues of the “viri probati” and female deaconate, which did not generate any broad agreement, used up a lot of time to the detriment of other topics over which there was agreement. 2. Regional self-centredness. Synodality with those who think like me; autonomy and pluralism with those who think differently, as in the case of the sister Churches of Asia, Europe and Africa. I think more should have been said about the synodality of the universal Church with respect to the ordained ministries. 3. There was no deeper self-criticism by the Church. I am referring here to the poor pastoral outreach of the last 50 years among the various Amazonian ecclesial communities. What are the causes of such pastoral poverty and barrenness? In my opinion, the issues of the social ideologisation, and the lack of a credible, coherent and resplendent testimony to the sanctity of ministers (which explain religious and priestly dropouts and equivocal lives) were not adequately addressed. 4. New patches for old clothes. In my opinion, the main issues associated with evangelisation were not discussed. What are the new ways proposed by the Synod? Only new structures and the ordination of “viri probati.” It seems to me that this new thing is extremely thin. In my view, the new garment that we must don with new fervour is a problem of "faith", i.e. how to wear Christ. 5. There was talk of an “Amazonian rite” for the liturgy. There is a risk of falling into theoretical experimentation in a pastoral lab. Undoubtedly, the inculturation of the Gospel in the liturgy and the life of Amazonian Christian communities is indispensable, but this must be done in real life, little by little, with reasonable adaptation and acclimatisation of what is truly authentic in the culture to truly convey the Christian mystery with original symbols and expressions, avoiding superficial and generic “folklorisation”. 6. Clericalisation of the laity. We could have solved the problem of would-be priestly ordinations for married men through the usual ways that already exist within the Church. Unfortunately, the “topic” of the Synod was the ordination of married men, whilst other topics remained in the shadows. 7. The secular vision of ministries, particularly that of women as “ordained deaconesses” was another topic, which came up all the time, with very civil motivations, under the strong pressure of the dominant culture. I think I saw a certain parliamentary sagacity: “We are representatives of the Amazonian peoples and we must carry forward the proposals put forward by them”. 8. The Church is in danger of becoming an NGO. The Church's mystery, life and action would be reduced to various advocacy and social service activities. Such reductionism seems to me to be strongly present in the sensitivity of a number of Synod participants. 9. The atmosphere of the Synod was fairly serene, fraternal and respectful, even though at the end some participants presented things rather dialectically. On the one hand, the Pharisee club was tied to the doctrine, frightened by the new, thus closed to the Holy Spirit; on the other hand, those who listen to the people (“sensus fidei”), without fear, are open to what is new and so are docile to the Holy Spirit… We must admire a Holy Spirit that came so well prepared and organised. continued...
