Here is a huge in your face lie, which the Vatican is promoting at the moment. It does not matter what religion you are. Whatever does you ; suits you. This drives me crazy. It is straight from hell. It's foremost promoter? Why Pope Francis of course! (The Jesuits again Horror)
You know I have quite honestly gotten to the stage when I think burning heretics at the stake was never a bad idea at all. I met two Jesuits across the street the other day and asked them if I brought a Pachemama Idol over would they Bless it for me? That I was throwing my Sacred Heart picture out because I needed to update. They doubled over laughing. I'm not laughing. I feel like crying. Why were they laughing about something that causes me so much pain?
Thank you for sharing Padraig. It’s very interesting that the overall message I heard in this video is that when St Francis left after his visit with the Sultan is that “...it changed him...”. Afterwards - when it is then related to what Pope Francis is doing following his visit in Abu Dhabi I was left with the sense that it is us (the Faithful Catholics) that have been limited in our understanding of God’s great revelation to humanity. It is very subliminal. We as Catholics need to change as St Francis “changed” in the name of shared humanity and other religions. That is - that I must change my inherent intolerance and bias towards all others. It’s so similar to all of this “white privilege” that I’m infected with just because I was born white.
You know, the more and more I think of it... We all deserve whatever Our Lord is going to send us. I think of all the souls of abortion and what Heaven must think of us all. I also think of the prayer of the angel of Fatima.. "MOST Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly. I offer Thee the Most Precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges, and indifference by which He is offended. And through the infinite merit of His Most Sacred Heart, and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of Thee the conversion of poor sinners." What are we Christian's doing to repair the outrages, sacrileges, and indifferences against Our Lord? Nothing, most do nothing, and many add to the sorrow of Our Lord. It matters Padrig. It matters a lot what faith we hold. I also think a lot of one verse when a subject like this comes up. "But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven." Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, please be merciful to me a sinner.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com...the-myth-of-st-francis-as-a-modern-ecumenist/ Excerpt from the article In his classic book St. Francis of Assisi: A Biography, Omer Englebert tells us that immediately after returning from his visit with the sultan, St. Francis learned that five Franciscan brothers had been martyred in Morocco. While passing through Moorish Spain they had entered a mosque and denounced the Koran. They told the local ruler, “We have come to preach faith in Jesus Christ to you, so that you will renounce Mohammed, that wicked slave of the devil, and obtain everlasting life like us.” Hearing this report, St. Francis exclaimed, “Now I can truly say that I have five Friars Minor!” St. Francis was above all a faithful Catholic, a fact that is sometimes missed by depictions of him as a modern ecumenist. In the First Rule of the Friars Minor (no. 19), he writes: “Let all the brothers be Catholics, and live and speak in a Catholic manner. But if anyone should err from the Catholic faith and life in word or in deed, and will not amend, let him be altogether expelled from our fraternity.” In his Letter to All the Faithful he advises, “We ought also to fast and to abstain from vices and sins and from superfluity of food and drink, and to be Catholics. … And let us all know for certain that no one can be saved except by the Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ and by the holy words of the Lord which clerics say and announce and distribute and they alone administer and not others.
I cannot agree. Two weeks ago we watched "Francis of Assisi" (1961). I was still very unfamiliar with him. When I saw the "meeting the Sultan" scene, I knew the Vatican would use that meeting in this way (if it hadn't already). It's pointed out in the video you linked that St. Francis met with the Sultan in order to convert him to Christianity (and thereby many Muslims would also convert as a result). That's exactly it. And of course Mr. Valkenberg points that out as though it's anachronistic. Well Mr. Valkenberg (or whatever your title is), I have questions for you: WHAT THEN WAS THE POINT OF JESUS GOING TO THE CROSS, SUFFERING & DYING? If everything's Even-Steven between Jesus and Mohammed, what's the point of the Vatican's existence? What was the point of Christian martyrs, missionaries, etc.?
I may be a suspicious, nasty old crank but I have totally lost all trust in the Vatican and any It.Media sites associated with them. If they could stomach idol worship they'd sink to just about anything. I read a piece by a Parish Priest recently which was insightful. He said they used to rely on the Vatcian to straighten them out if their was a problem. Now they always find themselves fixing all Vatican stuff.
Well idol worship is the logical outcome of all of this, if Extra Ecclesiam nulla Salus is wrong, then in the end there really is no reason to object idolatry as, according to this line of reasoning, all religions lead to Salvation. In a sense we should have expected paganism from these people despite how absolutely shocking it was, as these people are/were to some degree Catholic, and Catholicism, while above it, is the only religion that does not contradict reason.
What does it matter if a person then has no relgion at all, or I suppose if they Worshi[p Satan, 'In accord with their conscience'. I am afraid he Holy Father is launching us all into Outer Space.
I have done a fair amount of research on St Francis. I am a Secular Franciscan. The conversion of Sultan was an attempt by Francis of evangelizing th e Muslims. Francis was ALL about the gospel and Jesus. What I have read is the Sultan was changed but could not convert to Christianity because to convert out of their religion is to die. But Francis showed him Jesus and by action the Sultan was intrigued. Who knows what may have happened after Francis left him. Francis was spared death because The Sultan was touched by Francis. The point is not that all religions lead to Salvation, the point is Christ sent us out to teach the gospels and that is what St Francis did. He didn't leave people in darkness but tried to spread the light of Christ even to everyone he met. Way to twist the story Vatican press.
I came across two wonderful posts on this topic. They are both well worth reading. One on Pope Francis, in a homily. On from Fr Dwight Longnecker. ..and oh yes a third from Fr Mitch Pacthwa SJ on EWTN (I haven't had a chance to listen yet but it is supposed to be very ,very good).
https://dwightlongenecker.com/the-earth-is-not-my-mother-heres-why/ The Earth is Not My Mother…Here’s Why One of the most disturbing things about the final document from the Amazonian Synod is the repeated and unchallenged reference to “Mother Earth.” In the desire to “inculturate the gospel” the synod organizers are infecting the Catholic faith with a religious concept which has always been incontrovertibly pagan and which the Christian faith has always steadfastly resisted. The resistance of Christians to the religion of the Earth Mother was rooted in the same resistance among the Hebrew people. Why did the Jews first, and then the Christians resist the temptation to worship the Earth Mother? To understand this we have to understand the practice of this religion and the theology-philosophy behind it. First, it should be observed that the religion of the Earth Mother makes sense to the natural man. As a primitive person, if you were going to invent a religion you would quite naturally develop a religion with an Earth Mother and a Sky Father. It all fits quite easily with your observance of the world around you. That the Earth Mother would appreciate the gifts you give her and return the favor by giving you good luck and protection has a certain logic to it. Likewise, you would seek to appease the sky Father who sometimes sends those terrifying lightning bolts and rumbles his displeasure with thunder.
I get it. This religion is called animism. Let’s be honest. Animism is not simply the noble savage living in harmony with nature. Animism is a primitive and superstitious religion. Furthermore, the natural inclination to offer gifts to the Earth Mother and Sky Father leads to barbaric practices which are well attested in the Old Testament and what we know of all the ancient civilizations. Animism develops into polytheism and then full blown paganism. To think further about the distinctions in these religions read my post here. Making offerings to the Earth Mother and Sky Father might seem gentle and harmless at first. You just give Mama a bowl of grain or maybe some flowers or a libation of wine. Dance in a circle and meditate for a moment and feel a sense of one ness with the universe. Is that really what primitive religions consist of? Not really. There’s more to it than that. To the Sky Father you give maybe a goat or a sheep or a pigeon. Why do you do that? Again, there is a kind of inner logic. You want to give Mama or Sky Papa the best gift right? So what is the best thing you have? Your bull, your goat, your sheep. In an agricultural culture they are your currency. But how do you give it to the gods? You cut its throat and let the blood run out. Why is that? Because you have noticed that when the red stuff flows out the animal dies. Therefore the red stuff must be the goat’s life. By letting out the blood you release the life. It flows into Mother Earth and Earth Mama is happy. She has more life. That makes sense. Then you burn the goat on the altar and the smoke goes up to heaven and Sky Papa gets his share too. The life goes down to Earth Mama and up to Sky Papa. Now here’s where it gets really interesting. If you think Earth Mama and Sky Papa still need to be appeased even more you think to yourself that they need an even more precious gift of life. What is more precious than the goat, the bull and the pigeon? What is the most precious thing of all? It’s not the life of animals. It’s the life of people. People are better than animals. So you capture your enemies and slit their throats and offer their lives to the gods. But hang on. What is even more precious than those humans. They were your enemies you didn’t really care much for them anyway. What is really precious to you? It’s your kids. So you decide to slit the throat of your child instead. Go to the link to read the rest.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...hens-pagans-ignores-his-condemnation-of-idols Pope Francis says St. Paul ‘built a bridge’ to the Athens pagans, ignores his condemnation of idols VATICAN CITY, November 7, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) ― Ignoring Saint Paul’s condemnation of graven images, Pope Francis stated that the saint provided an example of the “inculturation” of the Gospel when he preached in Athens. In a homily during his usual Wednesday audience, the pontiff stated that St. Paul used his encounter with the pagan idols of the ancient city “to build a bridge to dialogue with that culture.” “Paul chose to enter into familiarity with the city and began therefore to frequent the most significant places and people,” Francis said. “He went to the synagogue, symbol of the life of faith; he went to the town square, symbol of urban life, and he went to the Aereopagus, symbol of political and cultural life.” The pontiff noted that St. Paul spoke with judges, philosophers, and “many others,” meeting “all the people” and not “locking himself away.” “In this way Paul observed the culture, observed the environment of Athens,” Pope Francis added, and then quoted from his own Evangelium Gaudium to say that Paul “started from a contemplative gaze” to discover “that God who lives in His houses, in His streets, and in His squares” (EG, 71). In what sounded like an allusion on the expulsion of wooden carvings depicting the pagan fertility goddess Pachamama from a Catholic Church during the recent Synod on the Amazon, Pope Francis stated that St. Paul did not look upon the pagan world with “hostility” but with faith. “Paul did not look at the city of Athens and the pagan world with hostility but with the eyes of faith,” he said. “And this questions our manner of looking at our cities: do we look at them with indifference? With contempt? Or with the faith that recognizes the children of God in the middle of anonymous crowds?” The pontiff stated that Paul had chosen to view the city in a way that led him “to make an opening between the Gospel and the pagan world.” “In the heart of one of the most famous institutions in the ancient world, the Areopagus, he realized an extraordinary example of inculturating the message of faith: he announced Jesus Christ to the adorers of idols, and not by attacking them, but by making himself ‘pontiff, builder of bridges,’” Francis said, quoting a homily he gave in May 2013. Paul did this, Francis said, by noticing an altar the Athenians had set up to “the unknown god” and telling his hearers that he had come to tell them about the unknown god they already adored. “Starting from this ‘devotion’ to the unknown god, to enter into empathy with his [hearers], he proclaimed that God ‘lives among the citydwellers” and “He does not hide Himself from those who seek him with sincere hearts, although they do it gropingly,” Pope Francis said, again quoting from Evangelium Gaudium. “It’s just this presence that Paul seeks to reveal, ‘He who, without knowing him, you adore, I announce Him to you (Acts 17:23),” he continued. However, in describing St. Paul’s homily to the Athenians, the Argentinian pontiff neglected to mention that the great missionary of Tarsus told his hearers that the God who created everything does not live in temples (Acts 17:24) or need offerings (Acts 17:25) and is not like graven images made by human beings (Acts 17:29). “Since we are God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the deity is like gold, or silver, or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of mortals,” Paul said. Instead, Pope Francis noted that the majority of Paul’s hearers rejected his message when he announced Christ’s resurrection from the dead — “the stumbling block”― and so his attempt seemed to be a failure. However some do accept the Gospel, “among these a man, Dionigius, a member of the Areopagus, and a woman, Damaris.” Pope Francis found it significant that Damaris is a woman. “Even in Athens, the Gospel can take root and spread by two voices: that of a man and that of a woman!” He concluded, “We ask today of the Holy Spirit to teach us to build bridges with the culture, with those who don’t believe or with those who have a different belief from ours. To always build bridges, always the extended hand, no aggression. We ask Him for the capacity to inculturate with care the message of faith, placing a contemplative gaze on those who are ignorant of Christ, moved by a love that warms even the hardest hearts.” Philosopher Professor Claudio Pierantoni, one of the original signatories of the letter to the world’s bishops accusing Pope Francis of heresy, indicated that the pontiff was both right and wrong in his homily about St. Paul and the Athenians. “It is true that in this episode, Paul takes advantage of some positive elements in the pagan philosophy, such as the approximation to the doctrine of Creation, and to Man’s special relation to God as ‘God’s offspring,’” Pierantoni told LifeSiteNews via email. “That could be correctly described as ‘making bridges.’ But we must be careful not to interpret this as mere ‘dialogue’ between religions that can peacefully coexist on the same level,” he continued. The professor cited verses Acts 29-30 to point out that paganism no longer has reason to exist. “The pagan religion, with its idolatrous cults, had a reason for existing, because of ignorance, until the moment of the positive, historical revelation of God.” Pierantoni noted that Francis’ homily repeatedly speaks of “aggression,” as if it were opposed to the spirit of Paul’s supposed “inculturation” and “dialogue,” and saw in it a reference to “the present controversy about the idolatrous rites recently held in the Vatican Gardens, and to the taking away of the wooden images of the Pachamama from a Church near the Vatican.” “But St. Paul’s evangelization, although it certainly uses the means of dialogue, of course does not have in mind a pacific coexistence of all religions as an ideal,” he continued. “[Paul’s] message is not just about some neutral exchange of opinions among different religious beliefs, but the announcement of something new that terminates the ‘times of ignorance’ and makes idolatry into an abominable sin.” The professor cited verses Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians that also condemn idols: “What do I imply then? That food sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be partners with demons” (1 Cor. 10:19-21).
I know its not right to focus too much on dates, for who knows really? But just at present I must admit things make me really nervous. The fires in California and Australia, the weird weather, the political unrest, but worst of all the Total, Total Apostasy in the Vatican. Time to put on the seat belts.
