Our Lady has said in the approved Luz de Maria messages that those who desire for things to begin happening re: justice coming upon the world don't know what they are asking for. They have no idea what that means. That is why she mentions the need for more prayer to the extent that one never stops praying...in some way or another. Until more things happen within the continuum designed by the Father Who still, as from the beginning, desires no soul to be lost, where more and more will come to the point that their usual expectations no longer work in this material world, and they become desperate to find help, looking more and more for THE answer......and until more and more of the evil systems that have been hidden from the populations (just look at the horrendous gulags that existed in so many countries for decades and yet were kept secret until later exposed) are exposed along with their leaders so that people cannot deny their own responsibility in what is happening to the world from man and nature and the cosmos, will they be ready for the Warning, coming at the worst time; now is not as yet that time since people still believe that man's science and materials can save them. Also, even when messages outline what could come upon man to the point of 2/3 of world's population destroyed through those many means, and even more afterwards due to the disease and lack of basics resulting, our Lady still tells us that prayer can mitigate anything that is to come. It is ourselves who aren't complying enough and therefore bringing it upon ourselves. And this is why some messages via PRs seem to have changed. Messages are warnings for what could come IF we don't do what is asked of us and the mentioned future events then can be mitigated for more or less compliance by the remnant faithful. Often too, since all such messages are meant for the Church first.....how much avoidance, delay, rejection on the part of the Church has played into the good of what was promised being kept back. Heaven has its own timeline. It tells us what is God's will and His timing. When we/ the Church authorities do not accept such a timeline then the graces offered are denied and instead man's own mistakes continue and bring on what has been warned of IF those graces were not received.
I believe that concerned the Church in Portugal perhaps not folding/adopting any new heretical doctrines/dogma change....that will be coming from the top that other regions of the world will comply with. It is the Church that must stand against any secular govt. around it that may adopt evil systems and laws.
Garabandal is a truthful apparition; the prediction of a warning in 2020 is false; there will be no warning before 2030, at the earliest. More probably 2037. Fact. Take it for what it is worth. If you disagree, there is no need to act like a raging heathen and spew hate. Just disagree. You think it will happen this year. I know it will not happen this year. It is not "evil" to tell the truth. Time will tell where the truth lies.
Not really, because after the warning and the secrets, and a minor tribulation, there will be the Splendor of the church, a kind of peace in the world and, all seeing the truth clearly, after some years there will be an end to the evangelization of the Church. This is the time of the great monarch and the catholic kings who have been spoken of in some prophecies, including La Salette. It is a relatively short time, but God always extends the time of things, so it can take more or less to finish. This is the PERIOD OF PEACE said in FATIMA. People will not live in the Divine Will in this time, because that peace will not last long, because most people will not be able to live in holiness and will want to return to a sinful life. They will renounce God's mercy. It is at that moment that the appearance of the antichrist will take place, people will find it very heavy to live the commandments of God and the antichrist will come to take that weight off them and soon after there will be the return of Jesus to Judge the World. This PERIOD of peace is the materialization of God's mercy. It will show the whole world the truth and give everyone a chance to not get lost and renounce Satan. This period of peace is a consequence of God's mercy. "Before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy." The Era of Peace, the real era of peace with people living in the Divine Will is the new earth and new heaven, the reconstructed paradise that will not finish anymore. Do you think it is possible Luisa Picarreta apostatize of faith?
New earth and new heaven is not a figure of speech, it is literally a different land from the one we know and the demon will no longer have access to it. Anna Catarine Emerich speaks about the earthly paradise before the fall and the new reconstructed paradise after the return of Jesus. Here is the Living in the Divine Will. This earthly Paradise (Garden of Eden) is not the same to Heaven. The Garden of Eden will be restored with improvements (New Earth). God created men to live first in an earthly paradise and then go to heaven without the need to die, but in a different way that has not yet happened, because Adam and Eve died following Satan.
People who follow Father Ianuzzi, including Mark Mallett, are mistaken about the period of peace. They are confusing a period of peace with the new Earth (reconstructed paradise). But this is not important to save souls now. But is important to not follow fake locutions. There are many of them.
Would that peace you are speaking of be the 1000 years spoken of in scripture, Revelations 20, after the Antichrist has been defeated and thrown with Satan into Hell? Revealtions 20:[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection. In these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ; and shall reign with him a thousand years. [7] And when the thousand years shall be finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go forth, and seduce the nations, which are over the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, and shall gather them together to battle, the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Catechism of the Catholic Church VI. Hope of the New Heaven and the New Earth 1042 At the end of time, the Kingdom of God will come in its fullness. After the universal judgment, the righteous will reign for ever with Christ, glorified in body and soul. the universe itself will be renewed: The Church . . . will receive her perfection only in the glory of heaven, when will come the time of the renewal of all things. At that time, together with the human race, the universe itself, which is so closely related to man and which attains its destiny through him, will be perfectly re-established in Christ.629 1043 Sacred Scripture calls this mysterious renewal, which will transform humanity and the world, "new heavens and a new earth."630 It will be the definitive realization of God's plan to bring under a single head "all things in [Christ], things in heaven and things on earth."631 1044 In this new universe, the heavenly Jerusalem, God will have his dwelling among men.632 "He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away."633 1045 For man, this consummation will be the final realization of the unity of the human race, which God willed from creation and of which the pilgrim Church has been "in the nature of sacrament."634 Those who are united with Christ will form the community of the redeemed, "the holy city" of God, "the Bride, the wife of the Lamb."635 She will not be wounded any longer by sin, stains, self-love, that destroy or wound the earthly community.636 The beatific vision, in which God opens himself in an inexhaustible way to the elect, will be the ever-flowing well-spring of happiness, peace, and mutual communion. 1046 For the cosmos, Revelation affirms the profound common destiny of the material world and man: For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God . . . in hope because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay.... We know that the whole creation has been groaning in travail together until now; and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.637 1047 The visible universe, then, is itself destined to be transformed, "so that the world itself, restored to its original state, facing no further obstacles, should be at the service of the just," sharing their glorification in the risen Jesus Christ.638 1048 "We know neither the moment of the consummation of the earth and of man, nor the way in which the universe will be transformed. the form of this world, distorted by sin, is passing away, and we are taught that God is preparing a new dwelling and a new earth in which righteousness dwells, in which happiness will fill and surpass all the desires of peace arising in the hearts of men."639
I wish the warning and chastisement would come earlier than I anticipate they will come. Perhaps if we fervently pray our rosaries and ask God to begin the renewal of the earth sooner, God will hear our prayers. I am an old man. I likely will not be alive in 20 years or so. I would love to see God's miracles occurring sooner than later. Praying the rosary fervently has changed the course of history many times, I believe.
Just curious. Where is "the prediction of a warning in 2020" that you refer to? I've seen some people who speculate that possibility in a discussion but there is no specific prediction or prophecy about that particular year that I've seen.
'That whole piece refers to the end of time not the end of this era for the new era, on earth, to arrive. In the coming era man will still be subject to death/decay as he will still be subject to sin or else there would not be the opening of Satan, at the end, to test those there who had not already been tested by the previous purification/chastisement, but it, death, will be looked upon as the true birth not with the fear of this corrupt age.
Catechism of the Catholic Church 676 The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism,577 especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.578 677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.579 The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven.580 God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.581
This is your interpretation. You apply your own interpretation to Emerich's words and try to use her as supporting your viewpoint. Show me in a definitive way where any Cannonized saint has categorically supported the idea of a "reconstructed " garden of eden BEFORE the last judgement. To me it sounds a great deal like millenialism which the Church has outright and repeatedly condemned.
Of Course the Reconstructed Garden of Eden is after the Last Judgement. NEW HEAVEN and NEW EARTH. Some people here who live in the divine will that maintain the opposite. They invented a world where the lion sleeps with the goat and everyone lives the Divine Will, but that this world is before the new heavens and new earth. it is a heresy and an effect of many false locutions readings.
nsd, I think I agree with what you are saying although I believe that PofP thoughts are very close except the new earth will not be like a reconstructed Garden of Eden. I believe that, after the Last Judgment those who enter Heaven will have glorified bodies and there will be no need for us to eat food, etc. This, of course, was not the case for Adam and Eve. PofP, Yes and if anything sounds like millennialism that interpretation does not yours. I hope that neither of you mind that I have butted into your conversation, btw. I will add the following, if Marie Julie Jahenny is right and the world experiences the 3 Days of Darkness in which it sounds like most evil will be eliminated from the Earth for at least some time then this could be the closest that we come to living in the Divine Will in our existing circumstances (flesh and blood). I think that this time could be the period of peace spoken of by Our Lady of Fatima.
