Coronavirus

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Well I mentioned it to the Priest this a.m. And he did not say anything to the contrary. In fact he thought it was a good idea . . .he might be coming for a visit and I will have him bless our house.
     
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  2. AED

    AED Powers

    My niece takes these and makes her whole family take them too.
     
  3. AED

    AED Powers

    Katfalls have your lovely priest do a house blessing and have it consecrated along with your family to the Two Hearts. This may be a soul in purgatory looking for prayers or it may be something demonic looking to disrupt and terrorize. A good priest's blessing should take care of it. Be sure to tell him all the details. Maybe have a Mass said for the Baptist minister just in case. ( there are cases on record where a poor soul was trying to get attention to have a Mass said but having lived in an afflicted house for 3 months myself--some years ago-- where such strange things occurred I am leaning toward house blessing ASAP.
     
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  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Great!!!!
     
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  5. AED

    AED Powers

    Good advice!
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    So true!!!!!
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Sounds more and more like a chastisement doesnt it?
     
  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The only thing that I know is contraindicated with elderberry syrup is
    anything steroidal. Elderberry preparation should not be taken when a person is on prednisone or has had a steroid injection. They work against each other.
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    This is good to know. I was taking a lot of prednisone last month.:(
     
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  10. I don't know if this has been posted but this is the website I've been using to track the outbreak, the data are the same as from other websites but the graphs and tables are nice.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
     
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  11. AED

    AED Powers

    Very helpful! Thank you.
     
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  12. I think about those poor Chinese people.....there seems to be no way out for them as they are now under such inhumane control and everyone is suspect. I think of the Ukrainian "prophet" Josyp Terelya's vision of the future with hordes of Chinese wandering, crossing borders, etc. And I believe Maria Esperanza saw something similar. How long will the people be kept penned up before they will themselves rebel in their hopelessness? May Divine Mercy come to them. We should offer chaplets for all those who will suffer and die from this, unexpectedly. And it's just such conditions of fear and want that I think will be the setting for the AC to arrive on the scene w/ some kind of universal answer for all.....but only if they "cooperate"! Such temptation for our human weaknesses to undergo. We have to ask the Holy Spirit NOW for His gifts for the soul to withstand what is coming.

    To Tame Coronavirus, Mao-Style Social Control Blankets China

    SHANGHAI — China has flooded cities and villages with battalions of neighborhood busybodies, uniformed volunteers and Communist Party representatives to carry out one of the biggest social control campaigns in history.

    The goal: to keep hundreds of millions of people away from everyone but their closest kin.

    The nation is battling the coronavirus outbreak with a grass-roots mobilization reminiscent of Mao-style mass crusades not seen in China in decades, essentially entrusting front line epidemic prevention to a supercharged version of a neighborhood watch.

    Housing complexes in some cities have issued the equivalents of paper hall passes to regulate how often residents leave their homes. Apartment buildings have turned away their own tenants if they have come from out of town. Train stations block people from entering cities if they cannot prove they live or work there. In the countryside, villages have been gated off with vehicles, tents and other improvised barriers.

    Despite China’s arsenal of high-tech surveillance tools, the controls are mainly enforced by hundreds of thousands of workers and volunteers, who check residents’ temperature, log their movements, oversee quarantines and — most important — keep away outsiders who might carry the virus.

    Residential lockdowns of varying strictness — from checkpoints at building entrances to hard limits on going outdoors — now cover at least 760 million people in China, or more than half the country’s population, according to a New York Times analysis of government announcements in provinces and major cities. Many of these people live far from the city of Wuhan, where the virus was first reported and which the government sealed off last month.

    Throughout China, neighborhoods and localities have issued their own rules about residents’ comings and goings, which means the total number of affected people may be even higher. Policies vary widely, leaving some places in a virtual freeze and others with few strictures.

    China’s top leader, Xi Jinping, has called for an all-out “people’s war” to tame the outbreak. But the restrictions have prevented workers from returning to factories and businesses, straining China’s giant economy. And with local officials exercising such direct authority over people’s movements, it is no surprise that some have taken enforcement to extremes.

    Li Jing, 40, an associate professor of sociology at Zhejiang University in the eastern city of Hangzhou, was almost barred from taking her husband to a hospital recently after he choked on a fish bone during dinner. The reason? Her neighborhood allows only one person per family to leave the house, every other day.

    “Once the epidemic was disclosed, the central government put huge pressure on local officials,” Professor Li said. “That triggered competition between regions, and local governments turned from overly conservative to radical.”

    “Even when the situation is relieved or if the mortality rate turns out not to be high, the government machine is unable to change direction or tune down,” she added.

    China’s prevention efforts are being led by its myriad neighborhood committees, which typically serve as a go-between for residents and the local authorities. Supporting them is the government’s “grid management” system, which divides the country into tiny sections and assigns people to watch over each, ensuring a tight grip over a large population.

    Zhejiang Province, on China’s southeastern seaboard, has a population of nearly 60 million and has enlisted 330,000 “grid workers.” Hubei Province, whose capital is Wuhan, has deployed 170,000. The southern province of Guangdong has called upon 177,000, landlocked Sichuan has 308,000 and the megacity of Chongqing has 118,000

    The authorities are also combining enormous manpower with mobile technology to track people who may have been exposed to the virus. China’s state-run cellular providers allow subscribers to send text messages to a hotline that generates a list of provinces they have recently visited.

    At a high-speed rail station in the eastern city of Yiwu this past week, workers in hazmat suits demanded that passengers send the text messages that show their location data before being allowed to leave.

    An app developed by a state-run maker of military electronics lets Chinese citizens enter their name and national ID number and be told whether they may have come in contact, on a plane, train or bus, with a carrier of the virus.

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    It is too early to say whether China’s strategy has contained the outbreak. With large numbers of new infections being reported every day, the government has clear reasons for minimizing human contact and domestic travel. But experts say that in epidemics, overbearing measures can backfire, scaring infected people into hiding and making the outbreak harder to control.

    “Public health relies on public trust,” said Alexandra L. Phelan, a specialist in global health law at Georgetown University. “These community-level quarantines and the arbitrary nature in which they’re being imposed and tied up with the police and other officials is essentially making them into punitive actions — a coercive action rather than a public health action.”

    In Zhejiang, one of China’s most developed provinces and home to Alibaba and other technology companies, people have written on social media about being denied entry to their own apartments in Hangzhou, the provincial capital. Coming home from out of town, they say, they were asked to produce documents from landlords and employers or be left on the street.

    For Nada Sun, who was visiting family in Wenzhou, a coastal city in Zhejiang, a health scare turned into a mandatory quarantine.

    When Ms. Sun, 29, complained of tightness in her chest this month, her mother told her to go to the hospital. She did not have a high fever, yet the hospital gave her a battery of checks. All came back negative for the virus.

    Even so, when she returned to her apartment, she was told that she would be quarantined for two weeks. She was also added to a group on the WeChat messaging app with a local Communist Party secretary and other volunteers in which she has to submit her temperature and location twice a day.

    “I’m worried they have too much information,” Ms. Sun said.

    The lockdowns are not necessarily oppressive. Many people in China have been happy to wall themselves off, ordering groceries online and working from home if they can. Some neighborhood officials act with a humane touch.

    Bob Huang, a Chinese-born American living in northern Zhejiang, said the volunteers at his complex had helped chase down a man who stayed out overnight to drink, in violation of rules about how often people can step outside. Yet they also delivered food from McDonald’s to a quarantined family.


    Mr. Huang, 50, has been able to dodge the restrictions by using a special pass from the property manager, and he has been driving around delivering protective face masks to friends. Some building complexes don’t let him in. Others take down his information.

    A nearby village took a less orthodox approach.

    “They always start asking questions in the local dialect, and if you can respond in the local dialect, you are allowed to go in,” Mr. Huang said. Unable to speak the dialect, he had to wait, though the villagers were friendly. They gave him a folding chair, offered him a cigarette and didn’t ask for an ID.

    Some parts of China have imposed other, often severe policies for fending off the epidemic.

    Hangzhou has barred pharmacies from selling analgesics to force people with symptoms to seek treatment at hospitals. The eastern city of Nanjing requires anybody who takes a cab to show ID and leave contact information. Yunnan Province wants all public places to display QR codes that people must scan with their phones whenever they enter or exit.

    Many places have banned large gatherings. The police in Hunan Province this month destroyed a mahjong parlor where they found more than 20 people playing the tile game.

    With local governments deciding such policies largely on their own, China has become a vast patchwork of fiefs.

    “It can be quite haphazard,” said Zhou Xun, a historian of modern China at the University of Essex in England. “A perfect plan on paper often turns into makeshift solutions locally.”

    Officials seem to recognize that some local authorities have gone too far. This month, Chen Guangsheng, the deputy secretary general of Zhejiang’s provincial government, called it “inappropriate” that some places had employed “simple and crude practices,”like locking people into their homes to enforce quarantines.

    Zhang Yingzi’s apartment complex in Hangzhou initially forbade anybody who had been out of town from entering. Later, the ban was adjusted to cover only people coming from Hubei Province and the Zhejiang cities of Wenzhou and Taizhou, both of which have had many cases of the new virus.

    “Banning everyone from out of town wasn’t realistic,” said Ms. Zhang, 29, an accountant. “There are so many of them, after all. Some needed to come back for work.”

    Still, many in China are uneasy about loosening up virus controls too quickly.

    Zhang Shu, 27, worries that her parents and neighbors are becoming cavalier about the virus, even as workers drive around her village near Wenzhou with loudspeakers telling people to stay home.

    “Ordinary people are slowly starting to feel that the situation isn’t so horrible anymore,” Ms. Zhang said. “They are restless.”

    Alexandra Stevenson contributed reporting from Hong Kong. Wang Yiwei and Lin Qiqing contributed research.


    https://dnyuz.com/2020/02/15/to-tame-coronavirus-mao-style-social-control-blankets-china/
     
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  14. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes this is the thing about these herbals. If you are like me and are on other drugs you have to be very cautious and do your homework as well as making sure to speak with your Doctor before taking them. If you are keeping them on hand for emergencies or just rely on them rather than formal medications I think it is a good idea to print out the info and keep it in a binder for reference rather than relying on the internet. Just in case. It may not benefit you but could benefit someone else in a time of need when traditional medicine is not so readily available.
     
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  15. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Me too AED. I am glad you are feeling better now.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    Thanks Don. It had been quite a winter--one respiratory infection after another starting with the flu:eek:. Hoping for better days. For you and for me.:)
     
  17. AED

    AED Powers

    Great advice Don.
     
  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The bottom line with this virus is that it gives the Illuminati,,... the Global Elite ...., the Satanists...freemasons.. those who actually rule this world ...Power.

    Fear = Power

    Send a virus...makes wars...cause economic melt down...cause fear...get power.

    It's not complicated. it's not Rocket Science. But boy, does it work.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/coronavirus-uk-london-quarantine-a4363126.html
     
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  19. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Thank you. I happened to notice the following comment from a doctor at the CDC that is quite concerning. If they don't really understand the virus, it will slow down the process of developing a vaccine.

    "I think this virus is probably with us beyond this season, beyond this year, and I think eventually the virus will find a foothold and we'll get community based transmission and you can start to think about it like seasonal flu. The only difference is we don't understand this virus"
    Dr. Robert Redfield
    Director, CDC
    US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    Feb. 13, 2
     
  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If you wind up not being able to go out your own front door to take your own dog for a walk and ft the police can come and drag you off to some kind of awful Death Tent City whenever they like , without charge or Court, then what is the good of living on anyway?
    As in China.

    House lock down.

    You can't go to work

    You can't shop.

    You can't make comments on the media.

    You can't drive your car.

    You can't leave the country.

    You can't travel.

    You don't know when it is all going to end.

    You're being lied to repeatedly and massively.

    You're running out of food and money very rapidly.

    You may be dragged off by strange people in space suits at any moment. With no recourse to Rights, Courts or Laws.

    You can't even take your dogs for a walk..in fact they are killing all the dogs, cats and anything else they can get they can get their spacey suit hands on as quickly as they can, simply because they say they have to.

    I mean in what way is any of this any better than being dead?

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