In the 7 years that the pope was elected into the seat of Peter, i never once heard from any sermon in casa sancta martha (or any sermon or public talk) or from any papal encyclical that he supports gay civil unions. Its always from ‘when he was still in argentina he floated the idea that ...’ [rumors] or from a private interview of so and so he ‘suggests’. Come on we all know what the media is like nowadays— FAKE NEWS. They will sensationalize anything!
It will indeed be interesting to see what poor Mark makes of this one. It is a hard ball to knock into the bleechers. I am much, much , much more interested in what people like Bishop Schneider, Cardinal Burke, Cardinal Muller, Cardinal Sarah, Bishop Strickland et al have to say. ..and of course my old friends the Papal Posse over at EWTN I am recalling with deep peace the Words of scripture regarding Our Blessed Mother; Luke 2:19 But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. I do have to say my initial reaction is mild surprise, once gain, that a random lightening bolt has not, hit Our Holy Father right on the chest. Storing all these things in my heart. Pondering like crazy. Pope Francis is just no good for my poor blood pressure. Whatever next? He never fails to horrify.
I find that Taylor's videos are soooo long and he talks very slowly! It is hard to find the time or even the attention span to watch/listen for an hour. What I did do and it worked perfectly was speed his video up to 1.5 times normal speed. (40 min instead of an hour!) You actually don't miss a thing and it starts to seem like the normal speed, lol. You can always drop to 1.25X also if too fast at 1.5. It was a good video. Now back to the pope that NEVER asks people to stop sinning.......
https://wdtprs.com/2020/10/francis-has-openly-called-for-civil-unions-for-homosexuals-wherein-fr-z-rants/ Francis has openly called for civil unions for homosexuals. Wherein Fr. Z rants. Today – the 1st anniversary of when the demon idols of the hideous Pachamama were pitched into the Tiber River [HERE] – we learn that Francis has openly called for civil unions for homosexuals. He did so in an interview for documentary about him. CNA has the story HERE. The documentary was seen in Rome today. It will be released for North America on Sunday … which, given the content seems a desecration of the Lord’s Day. “Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family. They’re children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out, or be made miserable because of it,” Pope Francis said in the film, of his approach to pastoral care. After those remarks, and in comments likely to spark controversy among Catholics, Pope Francis weighed in directly on the issue of civil unions for same-sex couples. “What we have to create is a civil union law. That way they are legally covered,” the pope said. “I stood up for that.” He said it in the film, not off camera as an aside, an off the cuff remark. It’s one thing when some diocesan bishop in Argentina says something which flies directly in the face of the Church’s teaching. It’s another when that diocesan bishop is in ROME. Francis has, in the past, opined about this spiritually deadly proposition. In 2014 he said something along these lines to Corriere della Sera. In 2017 he is cited in a book called Politics and Society with a French sociologist Dominque Wolton. And, in a seemingly affirmation that he really does think this possible, he says so in a video. Creeping incrementalism, friends. Step by step. Brick from brick. Acquiescence to adultery in Amoris. Where does it end? I think we are seeing where it ends. First, it is quite simply horrifying that he, a Catholic, a Jesuit, a priest, a bishop, etc., would think that. Second, it is quite simply horrifying that he, all of the above, would say that to someone else, anyone. Third, it is quite simply horrifying that he would say it on camera, which means permanent record of this thoughts. Fourth, it is quite simply horrifying that, on reflection and without doubt consultation on the content of the document, would permit that part to be left in documentary. This will have dire consequences for the warp and weft of the Church. Remember: an interview in a documentary is NOT a papal document or official teaching of the Church. However, Francis has revealed his mind in a public way about same-sex unions. The language of “rights” makes what he said extremely dangerous. I try whenever reason permits to chalk stuff like this up to incompetence. We should not immediately leap to imagine malice or purposely error, even heresy, as the first explanation if we can reasonably impute it to incompetence. I want to say, “Okay, perhaps all these people around Francis are so amateurish that they quite simply screw up again and again and again and again and again.” Francis gave an implicit endorsement of all that goes with active homosexuality including sodomy. By putting this in terms of rights, the “right” to a family – whatever that means! – does he therefore also condone adoption of children by same-sex couples? In vitro fertilization? Surrogate motherhood? I’ve been calling for REPARATION… REPARATION… REPARATION! There is more need of REPARATION than ever before. Something is seriously wrong and we have to – all of us – be prepared for the divisive consequences of this horrifying development. FATHERS! BISHOPS! It’s time for TRADITION. Full bore TRADITION. What are you guys waiting for? Do you need MORE?!? To you good lay people out there, entrust all of this to St. Joseph, Terror of Demons and Protector of the Church. Joseph, most chaste. Joseph, head of the Holy Family. Tomorrow is the Feast of St. John Paul II. Since 2013 we have seen a systematic attack and dismantling of the Wojtyla magisterium. Ask him to intercede. He would tell us – right now – DO NOT BE AFRAID! I say, be strong and determined. These are evil times. But WE are the team God assembled for these evil times. From before the creation of the entire cosmos, He wanted all of us in place here and now. Be confident in divine support of your vocation and many graces. Be steadfast. Holy Church is not greater than her Lord. If Christ underwent His Passion, the Church must, too, undergo her passion. This is, for us, the greatest honor God could offer to us in this vale of tears. It’s time for TRADITION. Full bore TRADITION. And… this… as the Holy See issues an obvious Pachamama 10 Euro coin….
CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS II. POSITIONS ON THE PROBLEM OF HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS 5. Faced with the fact of homosexual unions, civil authorities adopt different positions. At times they simply tolerate the phenomenon; at other times they advocate legal recognition of such unions, under the pretext of avoiding, with regard to certain rights, discrimination against persons who live with someone of the same sex. In other cases, they favour giving homosexual unions legal equivalence to marriage properly so-called, along with the legal possibility of adopting children. Where the government's policy is de facto tolerance and there is no explicit legal recognition of homosexual unions, it is necessary to distinguish carefully the various aspects of the problem. Moral conscience requires that, in every occasion, Christians give witness to the whole moral truth, which is contradicted both by approval of homosexual acts and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons. Therefore, discreet and prudent actions can be effective; these might involve: unmasking the way in which such tolerance might be exploited or used in the service of ideology; stating clearly the immoral nature of these unions; reminding the government of the need to contain the phenomenon within certain limits so as to safeguard public morality and, above all, to avoid exposing young people to erroneous ideas about sexuality and marriage that would deprive them of their necessary defences and contribute to the spread of the phenomenon. Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil. In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application. In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/...cfaith_doc_20030731_homosexual-unions_en.html
Of course. I still suspect Alien interference. His brains, his poor , poor brains. They've stolen them. Poor man. Non Catholic Aliens.
I saw this posted elsewhere but don’t know anything other than what the Twitter link says - that civil coexistence was mistranslated to civil union. https://mobile.twitter.com/maroune_e77/status/1319053990982713345 eta I don’t know if this is a troll account or something that will end up verified but I thought it was worth sharing in case it’s true.
Hey...that’s MY usual trick! (Except for the fact that I listen to it live so I couldn’t do that, lol!)
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. This kind of naive credulity might have been forgivable during the first couple years of this papacy but now it’s just embarrassing (if not sinful at this point, when it’s used to attack those faithfully defending the Church.) https://wdtprs.com/2020/10/francis-...u6tcYSJFp1F7tBzW1pecDi70NZ3xnij5hfYZkSVrvoeE4
I feel like I’m under water gulping to get some air with all this terrible news today. My friends texted me early today about it and I thought, here we go again. But, this so close to the election in the US has really kicked it up a notch.
In 2003, the Vatican's office on doctrine — under the leadership of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI — taught that "respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behavior or to legal recognition of homosexual unions."
Replying to myself here to add that, in the midst of this oppressing news, Our Lady gives us respite. Here She is—to me, at least—represented by a beautiful moon over the skies of South Jersey, USA, with Jupiter and Saturn to her left. I could have stood out there for hours lookin up at this!
Are you also that naive that you’d believe whatever the media reports puts out there? Like what cnn, abc, msnbc puts out there about trump? Look for the transcipts of these interviews if they cant produce any then consider these reports as RUMORS or the opinions of the interviewer. You need to exercise prudence especially in these times when the devil is trying to sow discord
'The duck test is a form of abductive reasoning. This is its usual expression: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. The test implies that a person can identify an unknown subject by observing that subject's habitual characteristics. It is sometimes used to counter abstruse arguments that something is not what it appears to be. '
I’ve actually listened to what the pope actually said in the film, and read a direct transcript. Did you? Obviously not. He said “What we have to create is a civil union law. That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.” You’re quite new here, and obviously young and a bit naive, so we’ll cut you some slack. But your nonsense is getting tedious.
I have the very strongest feeling that something truly momentous is about to happen. That we as a Church and the Entire World have just crossed a bridge from where there is no turning back. It is as though the very heavens were holding their breath. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 2 Peter 2:20-22 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
