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AED · Sep 11, 2022

ellen said: ↑

Does anyone know anything about the host of this video.... DEFEAT MODERNISM?

HE mixes in some outrageous comments along with church approved declarations??!!

Like ... a box of chocolates that has ONLY one piece that is poisonous.

I dont know WHAT to think of this site.... anyone else?
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I think he is on the level. Can you give specifics? I know he is a convert to the faith and a "rad trad" by his own description. His name is Anthony Stine I think.

Oops. Just looked it up. Return to Tradition is the site I am thinking of. Sorry!!!

AED · Sep 11, 2022

padraig said: ↑

It is run by the Society of St Pius V, a breakaway group fo m the Society of St Pius x and is Schismatic and Sedavacantist (they don't believe the Pope's the Pope and so are all excommunicated)

'The SSPV developed out of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), the traditionalist organization founded in 1970 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. In 1983, Lefebvre expelled four priests (Clarence Kelly, Daniel Dolan, Anthony Cekada, and Eugene Berry) of the SSPX's Northeast USA District from the society, partly because they were opposed to his instructions that Mass be celebrated according to the 1962 Roman Missal issued by John XXIII. Other issues occasioning the split were Lefebvre's order that Society priests must accept the decrees of nullity handed down by diocesan marriage tribunals and the acceptance of new members into the group who had been ordained to the priesthood according to the revised sacramental rites of Pope Paul VI.

"The Nine" (the four expelled priests plus five who voluntarily left the SSPX) refused to accept Lefebvre's insistence on the 1962 Missal even though they were aware of his position before they were ordained.[citation needed] It was their opinion that it included departures from the liturgical traditions of the church (for example, inserting the name of Saint Joseph after that of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Canon of the Mass).[1] According to the now-Bishop Donald Sanborn (one of "the Nine" priests), Lefebvre was imposing these liturgical and disciplinary changes in view of a reconciliation with the Vatican.[2] A more basic reason was the belief amongst The Nine that the men who had reigned as pope since the death of Pope Pius XII (d. 1958) had not been legitimate popes (Canon 1325, no. 2, 1917),[3] although Cekada later stated that "...[t]he 'pope question' was not raised at the time, and was not at issue."[4] They held that these popes had officially taught and/or accepted heretical doctrines, and therefore had lost or never occupied the See of Rome (Canon 188, no. 4, 1917).[5] Like the Society of Saint Pius X, they believed that there had been novel interpretations of the traditional teachings of the church on issues such as religious liberty. One of The Nine, Dolan, admitted that while still a member of the SSPX, he had already concluded that the See of Peter was vacant.[6]

The Nine set up a new priestly society under the leadership of Kelly, their former District Superior. The eight priests were Thomas Zapp, Donald Sanborn, Anthony Cekada, Daniel Dolan, William Jenkins, Eugene Berry, Joseph Collins, and Martin Skierka. Additional priests joined shortly thereafter.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_V
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Uh oh. I must be thinking of a different site. Anthony Stine? Is he a Pius V? Just checked. He is Return to Tradition.

HeavenlyHosts · Sep 11, 2022

padraig said: ↑

It is run by the Society of St Pius V, a breakaway group fo m the Society of St Pius x and is Schismatic and Sedavacantist (they don't believe the Pope's the Pope and so are all excommunicated)

'The SSPV developed out of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), the traditionalist organization founded in 1970 by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. In 1983, Lefebvre expelled four priests (Clarence Kelly, Daniel Dolan, Anthony Cekada, and Eugene Berry) of the SSPX's Northeast USA District from the society, partly because they were opposed to his instructions that Mass be celebrated according to the 1962 Roman Missal issued by John XXIII. Other issues occasioning the split were Lefebvre's order that Society priests must accept the decrees of nullity handed down by diocesan marriage tribunals and the acceptance of new members into the group who had been ordained to the priesthood according to the revised sacramental rites of Pope Paul VI.

"The Nine" (the four expelled priests plus five who voluntarily left the SSPX) refused to accept Lefebvre's insistence on the 1962 Missal even though they were aware of his position before they were ordained.[citation needed] It was their opinion that it included departures from the liturgical traditions of the church (for example, inserting the name of Saint Joseph after that of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Canon of the Mass).[1] According to the now-Bishop Donald Sanborn (one of "the Nine" priests), Lefebvre was imposing these liturgical and disciplinary changes in view of a reconciliation with the Vatican.[2] A more basic reason was the belief amongst The Nine that the men who had reigned as pope since the death of Pope Pius XII (d. 1958) had not been legitimate popes (Canon 1325, no. 2, 1917),[3] although Cekada later stated that "...[t]he 'pope question' was not raised at the time, and was not at issue."[4] They held that these popes had officially taught and/or accepted heretical doctrines, and therefore had lost or never occupied the See of Rome (Canon 188, no. 4, 1917).[5] Like the Society of Saint Pius X, they believed that there had been novel interpretations of the traditional teachings of the church on issues such as religious liberty. One of The Nine, Dolan, admitted that while still a member of the SSPX, he had already concluded that the See of Peter was vacant.[6]

The Nine set up a new priestly society under the leadership of Kelly, their former District Superior. The eight priests were Thomas Zapp, Donald Sanborn, Anthony Cekada, Daniel Dolan, William Jenkins, Eugene Berry, Joseph Collins, and Martin Skierka. Additional priests joined shortly thereafter.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Pius_V
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Thanks. Run.

ellen · Sep 11, 2022

HeavenlyHosts said: ↑

Thanks. Run.
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You're right HH..... so easy to be sucked in!!

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