Ratzinger, Tyconius, and Fatima: An Interpretive Key for the End Times

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by PNF, Sep 9, 2022.


  1. Yes! The Horn of Helm Hammerhand Shall Sound In The Deep, One Last Time!
     
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  2. andree

    andree Powers

    Mark M had a dream where he spoke of this - it's worth re-reading the whole article. Muck is prophetic in his dream including this passage: I was in a retreat setting with other Christians when suddenly a group of young people walked in. They were in their twenties, male and female, all of them very attractive. It was clear to me that they were silently taking over this retreat house. I remember having to file past them through the kitchen. They were smiling, but their eyes were cold. There was a hidden evil beneath their beautiful faces, more tangible than visible.

    You're so right, the LOTR has the answer to everything! That must be why netflix has done a new version of it:(
     
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  3. "Salvation will come from from the East" - Malachi Martin
     
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  4. Mario

    Mario Powers

    One day at a time...

    O Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
     
  5. Lois

    Lois Guest

    Hic et nunc; stay small my friends.

    LOTR: If Treebeard Thought That Merry And Pippin Were 'Little Orcs' Why Didn't He Squash Them?
    Published Mar 19, 2022
    He flattened Grishnak pretty quickly, so why did Treebeard hold off on Merry and Pippin?


    It is one of the many mysteries of the Lord of the Rings that by the Third Age of Middle Earth, Hobbits have managed to disappear almost entirely from the knowledge of every other kingdom. When the famous prophecy about Isildur’s Bane is sent to Boromir of Gondor,he has no understanding of what a halfling is, and neither do any of the men of Rohan, or any of the servants of Sauron for that matter. In many ways, this is very fortunate, because it has kept the hobbits safe in The Shire for all of these years, and means that they are constantly underestimated by the enemy. Not even the most ancient of beings still around in the world remember what a hobbit is.

    GAMERANT VIDEO OF THE DAY
    When Treebeard the Ent first comes across Merry and Pippin after they have escaped from the horde of orcs taking them to Saruman in the tower of Isengard, he doesn’t quite know what to make of them.

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    In Peter Jackson’s film adaptation of the movies they are lost in Fangorn Forest, and afraid, and as they climb what they believe to be a tall oak, Treebeard comes alive and steps straight on top of the orc that is pursuing them, squashing him instantly. He then grabs a hold of the two halflings and after scrutinizing them for a moment, declares that they are “Little Orcs!”. They protest “We’re not orcs, we’re hobbits!”, to which Treebeard considers once again and then responds “Never heard of a hobbit before. Sounds like orc mischief to me”. The ancient Ent starts to squeeze the hobbits in his anger as he recalls the orcs and their treachery, chopping down trees and burning them, having no care or regard for nature.
    This scene has led many fans to wonder why Treebeard didn’t just squash the hobbits immediately, if he was so convinced that they were orcs trying to pull the wool over his eyes, like he squashed the nasty creature who tried to kill Merry just moments before. It seems strange that Treebeard, one of the most ancient creatures of Middle Earth, would hesitate over a matter of such importance, and would trust the judgement of Gandalf the White (who has only just been brought back to the world after a fierce battle with the enemy) over his own.

    There are three reasons for the old Ent’s hesitation, the first of which is to do with the state of the world, the second of which is to do with the nature of Ents as creatures, and the third is to do with their connection with hobbits, albeit a connection from long ago, that has been lost in across the ages.

    In terms of the state of the world, Treebeard doesn’t crush the hobbits immediately, because there is much that has changed in Middle Earth in recent years, especially since Sauron’s ominous resurfacing at the end of Bilbo’s quest for Erebor in the form of the Necromancer. Therefore, Treebeard has lost touch with what has stayed the same since the days of old, when he was just a young Enting, and what has grown and developed beyond recognition.

    Not only does this give him ample excuse to be weary of his own judgement, it also explains why he fears being tricked by orcs or magic. In seeking the experience of someone more in touch with the modern world, who is well traveled and knows a lot about the cities and the people of the realms (which is definitely a gap in Treebeard’s wisdom) the Ent is making a really smart call.


    In terms of an Ent’s nature, it is well known that Ents don’t like to rush into anything, and that it can take them days or even weeks of discussion to come to any decision or consensus. Treebeard's most common catchphrase is “Don’t be hasty”, so obviously the Ent didn’t want to presume too quickly that they were orcs and kill them instantly, if there was even a hint of doubt in his mind that this wasn’t the case.

    And where did this doubt come from? That would be in the ancient kinship that exists between the Shirelings and the Treeherders, because they share a love of the natural world, and a nourishment and protection of things that grow. In Tolkien’s original story, Treebeard explains it himself, stating “If I had seen you, before I heard your voices – I liked them: nice little voices; they reminded me of something I cannot remember – if I had seen you before I heard you, I should have just trodden on you, taking you for little Orcs, and found out my mistake afterwards.”

    This beautiful little voice that Treebeard feels so much resonance and connection with is because hobbits are ultimately gentle and peaceful creatures, and love the lands and its animals as much as the Ents do. Therefore, it is easy to see how, even though the dark days of Middle Earth have worn on Treebeard and made him angry and suspicious, his heart is still able to recognize friend over foe.

    https://gamerant.com/lotr-treebeard-merry-and-pippin-little-orcs/
     
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  6. thomas21

    thomas21 Archangels

    Even if it is a false church we shouldn't be rash enough to claim that sedevacantism is the solution. The Church has attributes that sedevacantism denies, such as oneness, apostolocity and visibility. It's a false solution and I think one that the devil is banking on given all the scandal. If they were right, the world should have ended 3 1/2 after the old mass was banned. That I take as a sign that the false church that they talk about is still to come. Benedict said that the correct way to read Vatican II is through continuity, so when this false church teaches that Vatican II was a rupture and they're just implementing it, they are lying. They want people to become schismatics, leave the Church, or follow them into their new religion.
     
  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    This is quite true. There are people on this forum, I sense, who are exactly as you have described. They are keeping a low profile now because they know Padraig will ban them. Imho
     
  8. Lois

    Lois Guest

    “[reacting to Pippin’s plan] That doesn’t make sense to me. But then you are very small, perhaps you’re right.” The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

    “[about Orcs] They come with fire, they come with axes… gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning! Destroyers and usurpers, curse them!” The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

    (this reminds me of what happened to the churches and liturgy after the....you know)


    Treebeard: There was a time when Saruman would walk in my woods, but now he has a mind of metal and wheels. He no longer cares for growing things.” The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

    (this reminds me of those who were once very rigid, and those who pretended......)


    “We Ents cannot hold back this storm. We must weather such things as we have always done.” The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

    (this shows great hope, stand tall and stay strong)
     
  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Love this!
     
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  10. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    Absolutely love Lord of the rings and this discussion. There is so much to think about and chew on.
    I must pick up LOTR again. Its so hopeful.
     
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  11. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    or convert them (y):D:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::love:
     
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  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, Truth!:)
     
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  13. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    I "sense" it too. But Jesus said, we must love our enemies. In fact, every time I go to confession, I find myself confessing unfounded suspicions that I have about others. If you are not aware, to do so is contrary to the Eighth Commandment. And to do so publicly, through innuendo, suggesting that certain other people have bad motives without providing evidence and lacking a just reason for the accusation, might be a mortal sin. It's always good to check with a traditional priest and preferably an SSPX priest, who will have faculties from the Church for hearing confessions, as Bishop Athanasius Schneider reiterated a few days ago.

    Jesus said it best. The best way to love our enemies is to pray for them. Please pray for me, HeavenlyHosts. I will continue to pray for you.
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am praying .
     
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  15. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Excellent point. We ALL need to remember this, and consciously bring it to mind every time we post.
     
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  16. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I mentioned no names in my post. It was very generic. I made what I thought was a valid observation. Did you read my comment? I directed my comment to Thomas . PNF got very personal in answer to me. How was I at fault?
     
  17. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I was simply responding to his one quote, which names no one either. I have not looked at the context.
     
  18. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Please look. Thanks.
     
  19. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I have. You’re reading much to much into his post.
     
  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    He sent it in response to my post and he quoted me. He directed it to me. How can I not read too much into his post, suggesting I might be committing a mortal sin.
     

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