A New Forum on Pope Francis

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    The full video of Cardinal Schönborn's interview with Nicky Gumbel (creator of the Alpha course) at the Holy Trinity Brompton leadership conference is now up at
    http://treadinggrain.com/2013/htb-leadership-conference-cardinal-schonborn-video/comment-page-1/#comment-18311
    It's really very moving and worth watching in full. What didn't get reported by the press (but which is just as consistent with the thrust of Locutions to the World as his revelations about the Papal election) is the final section around the 28 minute mark when Cardinal Schönborn starts sharing his spiritual intuition concerning God's plan for the re-integration of Israel into the Body of Christ. Having noted that he, the new Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby and Nicky Gumbel all have Jewish blood, he remarks that



    Remarkable, prophetic words. Something supernatural definitely going on here if you ask me.
     
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    What a beautiful infectious man thanks for posting Peter I really enjoyed watching him talk..:)
     
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    Pope to atheists: "Do good, and we'll find a meeting point"
    Gloria.TV – News Briefs 23/05/2013 13:36:46

    Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis has said in his latest urging that people of all religions, and none, work together.
    The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning mass at his residence, a daily event at which he speaks without prepared comments.
    "Just do good, and we'll find a meeting point," the pope said in a hypothetical reply to the hypothetical comment: "But I don't believe. I'm an atheist."
    Francis's reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is in marked contrast to the attitude of his predecessor, Benedict, who sometimes prompted complaints from non-Catholics that he seemed to see them as second-class believers.

    What do you think of this?
     
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    We need to combine this with the other clear teachings of Pope Francis about the centrality of Jesus and His Church. Pope Francis' reasoning seems to be that even if someone doesn't believe in God we should still encourage that person to do good works, and hopefully by doing good atheists will be more receptive to the message of the gospel. It does seem that reasoning with atheists often isn't particularly effective. But trying to live a good life and love your neighbor may lead someone to an encounter with the Good.

    And I disagree with the characterization of Benedict in the last paragraph of the quote. Pope Benedict often searched for common ground with atheists, although he tried to approach them through reason. Francis is trying reach them through good works.
     
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    And I agree with Pope Francis that a "good person" is someone who does good things, not necessarily someone who holds correct beliefs (although true beliefs are of course important in their own right). Jesus himself in the Gospels seems to have placed great emphasis on what a person actually does (Good Samaritan). I think there will probably be many atheists who are in a more favorable position on Judgement Day than some professed Christians.
     
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    Pope at Mass: A big heart to avoid selfish isolation

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    [​IMG](Vatican Radio) We need a "big heart" that is wide open and capable of loving. We must also avoid behaving selfishly at all costs because, selfish people, like Judas, do not understand what giving and love are; they become traitors, isolated and alone. This was Pope Francis’ message Tuesday morning during Mass at Casa Santa Marta. Emer McCarthy reports: [​IMG][​IMG]

    Focusing on the Gospel of the day and the contrast between the path of love and that of selfishness, Pope Francis said if we really want to follow Jesus, we must "live life as a gift" to give to others, "not as a treasure to be kept to ourselves". The Pope quoted the words of Christ: " No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends." But Tuesday's liturgy, he noted, also presents us with another person: Judas, "who had the exact opposite attitude." And this, he explained, was because Judas "never understood what gift really means":


    "Let us think of that moment with the Magdalene, when she washed the feet of Jesus with nard, which was so expensive: it is a religious moment, a moment of gratitude, a moment of love. And he [Judas] stands apart and criticizes her bitterly: 'But ... this could be used for the poor!'. This is the first reference that I personally found in the Gospel of poverty as an ideology. The ideologue does not know what love is, because they do not know how to gift themselves".


    Pope Francis continued: Judas stood apart “in his solitude" and this attitude of selfishness grew to the point of his "betrayal of Jesus." He said those who love “give their lives as a gift", the selfish instead "safeguards his life, grows in this selfishness and becomes a traitor, but is always alone." However, those who "give their life for love, are never alone: they are always in the community, part of the family." The Pope warned that those who "isolate their conscience in selfishness," in the end "lose". This is how Judas ended up, the Pope said, he "was an idolater, attached to money"

    "And this idolatry has led him to isolate himself from the community of others: this is the drama of the isolated conscience. When a Christian begins to isolate themselves, he or she also insulates his or her conscience from the sense of community, the sense of the Church, from that love that Jesus gives us. Instead, the Christian who gifts his or her life, who loses it, as Jesus says, finds it again, finds it in its fullness. And those who, like Judas, want to keep it for themselves, lose it in the end. John tells us that 'at that moment Satan entered into Judas' heart'. And, we must say: With Satan the payback is rotten. He always rips us off, always! "


    Instead Jesus always loves and always gives. And this gift of love, the Pope said, impels us to love "to bear fruit. And the fruit remains. " Pope Francis concluded his homily with an invocation to the Holy Spirit:


    "In these days of waiting for the feast of the Holy Spirit, we ask: Come, Holy Spirit, come and give me this big heart, this heart capable of loving with humility, with meekness, an open heart that is capable of loving. And let's ask this grace, of the Holy Spirit. And may He free us always from the other path, the path of selfishness, which eventually ends badly. Let us ask for this grace. "



    Text from page http://en.radiovaticana.va/articolo.asp?c=691921
    of the Vatican Radio website
     
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    25 May 2013 Mass in the Casa Santa Marta

    Pope Francis: "Think about a single mother who goes to church, in the parish and to the secretary she says: 'I want my child baptized'. And then this Christian, this Christian says: 'No, you cannot because you're not married!'. But look, this girl who had the courage to carry her pregnancy and not to return her son to the sender, what is it? A closed door! This is not zeal! It is far from the Lord! It does not open doors!...

    And so when we are on this street, have this attitude, we do not do good to people, the people, the People of God, but Jesus instituted the seven sacraments with this attitude and we are establishing the eighth: the sacrament of pastoral customs! ".

    "Jesus is indignant when he sees these things" - said the Pope - because those who suffer are "his faithful people, the people that he loves so much"

    "We think today of Jesus, who always wants us all to be closer to Him, we think of the Holy People of God, a simple people, who want to get closer to Jesus and we think of so many Christians of goodwill who are wrong and that instead of opening a door they close the door of goodwill ... So we ask the Lord that all those who come to the Church find the doors open, find the doors open, open to meet this love of Jesus.

    We ask this grace.

    — Pope Francis

    - Vatican Radio View attachment 1096
     
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    This Pope makes me sigh with joy! :)
     
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