Visions And Prophecies of Fr. Oliveira

I just went back to MJJ and the directions for the hawthorn tea include the flowers with the leaves, too. I looked online and that is how it is being sold.

 

I bought them from Amazon.

 

Please do start a new thread on MJJ!

 

There are so many places were you can pick Hawthorne leaves in the wild, in Ireland they are everywhere. I must pick some while campsite Ng.

It might be an an act of great charity to have quite a few to help others. I am sure even if you had to buy them they would be very, very cheap.

 

They are not expensive. A pound runs about $10-12 dollars.

 

On February 6th, Father Oliveira was on the beach, fishing, in a moment of rest. He was throwing a net into the sea, which went back and forth with the waves.

At one point, he found himself looking at the water and, inexplicably, felt the instinct to run away from where he was. He likes fishing and is familiar with the sea, so he found that bad feeling strange.

He stood still, with the net in his hand, trying to understand what was happening. The situation was similar to a panic attack, like a causeless terror. Then, there was a preview:

A huge wave was coming towards him. The priest turned his back to her and went back to the chair, where his things were. When he looked at the ground, he saw the image of the United States flag in the water, which appeared to be submerged. Everything had happened in a few seconds.

Then the phenomenon ended. There was no wave approaching, no flag on the ground. The priest sat on the chair and asked God:

“Lord, why do you always show me things like this? I can’t understand what you want to tell me.”

And he stayed there, standing still, in the same place. The bad feeling passed and the priest went back to fishing. He spent days discerning the event.

Whether the meaning of the revelation is literal or symbolic, whether it is for a near or distant future, whether it is conditional or inevitable, none of this is clear, God did not want to reveal it. The divine language is more comprehensive than our imagination, so let us be patient because everything will become clearer only at the time He wants.

Revelations like this are given to us so that we are prepared for the time when a bad event confirms the prophecy. Even if such a situation frightens us in the future, we will remember that God has it under His control and will always be with His children.

Let us pray for the United States and for Divine Mercy.

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I confess that this post from Father Oliveira's advisor on February 24th of this year left me with serious doubts about the authenticity of these messages, since Luke says at the end that he does not know whether the message is literal or symbolic, whether fulfillment is near or far, or whether it is conditional. which seems like very ambiguous language to analyze any fulfillment of the prophecies.

 

In a month all the hype around this guy will fade when nothing happens. You're smart to be extremely skeptical.

 

I am afraid not, the Sign is to be given to Fr Olviera. I picked this up from the video. I think he was looking for a personal Sign from Our Lady. So this may be conclusive for him, but not for us.

You should watch the video.

 

I saw it. Nevertheless he's saying the tribulation starts in October. Yes I'm sure when nothing happens people will explain it as the tribulation has started with the synod, but anyone could have said this. His credibility is sus at best. Very sensational claims with easy outs for when nothing happens.
I keep going back to what Conchita said. Before the future events take place there will be many false apparitions that will distract people.

 

I watched the video and before I watched it was inclined to be favourable but after watching it I would be far more cautious.

In the first place For Olviera is anoymous. I don't really like this, it's not good for Discernment.

His friend Lucas says this is because the Father fears persecution. Well you know I think I like this even less.

There is confusion because I am never sure if we're dealing with what Fr Oliveira said of Lucas's interpretation. Which is which? It's a bad place to be in. Far, far better if the Father came forward himself.

The Father's Bishop apparently thinks the messages are between the Father and his Spiritual Director. Again these are public messages and certainly should concern his Bishop, another bad sign..
Another worrisome thing is the claim the anti Christ is alive today. I don't think so, not until the end of the World.

I don't want to burst anyone's bubble but I would be careful with these.

As far as October is concerned, well pretty well everyone and his cat is talking about October....so..

I don't say these messages are not true, but I'd advise giving them a wide berth. There are other things raise concern, like the vague, puzzling nature of many of these symbolic messages.

But I'll not go on and on.

 

The description of the prophecy about the tsunami forced me to exercise my imagination about the scene of the priest, who is very reserved, fishing on the beach, which is why I wondered if he was with or without his priestly robes at the time of the vision. This reminds me of when I'm reading a book without pictures and I have to imagine the scene with the characters moving throughout the plot. In the case of Sister Lucia, she lived in seclusion, but we knew her face because of her interviews throughout her life. The same applies to Sister Agnes Sasagawa.

 

But anothertthing that troubles me is that hexsays Pope Fancis is doing bad things and has a guilty conscience but that the bad things he is doing is to save us from much worse things (he thinks).

I just find this bizarre

 

I don't follow?

 

We must always be cautious with these predictions. Prayer to St Michael first before I read them. Maria divine mercy followers think that Father Olivieri is false because it doesn't line up with their false stuff. Yes it can be crazy and quite an obsession. Itchy ears kind of thing.

 

Definitely a red flag.

 

Yes spot on. Maria divine mercy is there own little cult.

 

The fact that we do not know the priest's face in any interview makes the description of any vision of him something like an excerpt from a book in which we have to imagine the characters' actions. In the case of Sister Lucia, we knew her publicly even when she was already a Carmelite, so the statements attributed to her never seemed dubious or abstract.

 

Quite a lot of the video was the interpretation of the guy Lucas and not Fr Oliviera. I think the Pope thing was Lucas' interpretation.

I wonder is there a place to read Fr Oliviera's prophecies on their own?