Any Cardinal, Bishop, priest or layperson who goes along with Jorje Begoliio the false anti Pope in this abomination is also clearly aneathma, gone to the outer darkness and hell. Let us wait in hope for the good God to grant us a good and faithful pastor in the See of Peter
So, "defense of objective truth" is a proper subset of "pastoral charity", not overlapping with "patience". Nonsense. The core of everything in this response is a personal attachment to sin, in which the author has apparently confused his own personhood with a specific sin (three guesses as to which...). Tucho probably wrote this.
Apparently, Francis stated in 2016: “It is not to be excluded that I will enter history as the one who split the Catholic Church.” https://onepeterfive.com/pope-francis-reported-words-might-go-history-split-church/
Amoris Laetitia is the Trojan horse used to bring in novel and diabolical teachings into the church. We predicted this on this forum when AL was released that it would be used to undermine church teaching on marriage and on homosexuality.
He is moving dangerously close to the line in the sand. If he crosses it....will there be courage to rebuke him to his face as Paul did with Peter? Edited to add: looks like he crossed it. Toto I don't think we are in Kansas anymore.
Well you gotta hand hand it to him, he's never boring. I'm really fascinated by how the Pope explainers will handle this one... and by the way, in case I forget to mention it he is as much Pope as my dog is, if he ever was Pope in the first place, which I very, very much doubt.
https://traditioninaction.org/bev/284bev09_29_2023.htm Bird’s Eye View of the News IS A NEW BRAZILIAN MASS COMING? – While all attention is turned toward the Vatican and its October Synod on Synodality, in another corner of the world a very important thing is about to happen and practically no one is watching. Indeed, in Brazil, where the number of active Bishops is 400 (second only to Italy with 730, including the Vatican) and the number of Catholics is 123 million – the largest contingent in the world – a new Mass is in gestation and very close to its birth. Well-informed sources who asked not to be revealed say that throughout Brazil the Bishops are calling the priests together to prepare them for a new Mass that is coming. On July 24, 2013, Pope Francis preaching to Brazilian Bishops at the Aparecida Basilica Brazil is divided into 19 episcopal Regions. My sources reported that each of these Regions is preparing to have its own particular Mass. I am not sure if this is true or if it was just presented this way to the priests to make the idea more acceptable to them. It could be that there will just be one Mass for the entire country. What I will relate below comes from the report I received from one of these Regions. In Region East II, encompassing the State of Minas Gerais with 7 Archdioceses and 21 Dioceses, the Prelates are gathering all their priests to tell them to prepare for an enormous change that has been prepared for their present-day Novus Ordo Mass. Although the entire liturgy will change, the most important innovations are the words of Consecration for the bread and the wine, which would change to accommodate the “sensibility” of each region. In Minas Gerais, the new formula of the Consecration of the bread would become: “And He gave it to His disciples saying: This is My love which will be delivered for you and for all …” For the Consecration of the wine, the new formula would become: “Take and drink of it all, this is the wine and the water of life, which will be poured in your hearts …” These changes reportedly will be made public on October 12, 2023, the Feast Day of Our Lady Aparecida, Queen and Patroness of Brazil. According to the same sources, these changes have been in preparation since 2004 during the pontificate of John Paul II, and today are finally ready to be put in practice with the full endorsement of Pope Francis. This is, to this day, the data I received. I will now go on to comment on them. Is this real? The first question is: What degree of credibility should we give to this information? The Zaire Rite at the Vatican; top, women invoke their ancestors, bottom, Francis endorses it We have seen an African Zairian Rite Mass celebrated in St. Peter’s Basilica. The "Zaire Use" of the Roman Rite was said in Lingala, the language spoken in Congo, with much spontaneous clapping, dancing, singing and shouting. We know that Francis encouraged the Mexican Bishops to propose a Mayan Rite, which was already sent to the Vatican for final approval. We read in Querida Amazonia that the Pope is encouraging the South America Indian tribes to develop their own liturgical rite. Initially, he proposed adapting the entire liturgy to the idolatrous rituals of those Indians who adore the elements of nature as deities.
We are falling into shadow as Gandalf would say. Poor Brazil. The SSPX will be overwhelmed with refugees from this abomination.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-to-clergy-decide-for-yourself-whether-to-bless-homosexual-unions/ Pope Francis to clergy: Decide for yourselves whether to ‘bless’ homosexual unions LifeSiteMon Oct 2, 2023 - 3:39 pm EDT VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) –– Pope Francis has effectively told clergy that they can decide for themselves whether to “bless” homosexual unions. Responding to a dubia question submitted by five cardinals, as to whether or not the Church can ever accept as a “possible good” objectively sinful situations, such as same-sex unions, Pope Francis stated that “pastoral prudence must adequately discern whether there are forms of blessing, requested by one or more persons, that do not transmit a mistaken conception of marriage.” On October 2 five cardinals made public a series of letters which they have sent to Pope Francis, expressing serious doubts and concerns about the Synod on Synodality and recent papal comments. READ: BREAKING: Five cardinals write Dubia to Pope Francis on concerns about Synod, Catholic doctrine The signatories of the dubia are: Cardinals Walter Brandmüller, former prefect of the Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences; Raymond Leo Burke, former prefect of the Apostolic Signatura; Juan Sandoval Íñiguez, former Archbishop of Guadalajara; Robert Sarah, the former prefect of the Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments; and Joseph Zen, the former bishop of Hong Kong. The five cardinals had written to the Pope on July 10, and received a reply from him on July 13, in a letter dated July 11. It was in the July 11 letter that the Pope responded to the five concerns made by the cardinals: namely on possible attacks on the Church’s doctrines, the possibility of homosexual blessings, the weight of teaching afforded to the Synod, female ordination, and the necessity of repentance in sacramental Confession. READ: Archbishop Fernández hints at openness to same-sex ‘blessings’ if they don’t ‘feed confusion’ So “vague” was the Pope’s letter, that the five cardinals wrote to him again on August 21, but this time received no reply. Regarding same-sex blessings, the cardinals wrote in their July 10 letter: According to Divine Revelation, confirmed in Sacred Scripture, which the Church “at the divine command with the help of the Holy Spirit,…listens to devotedly, guards it with dedication and expounds it faithfully” (Dei Verbum 10): “In the beginning” God created man in his own image, male and female he created them and blessed them, that they might be fruitful (cf. Gen. 1, 27-28), whereby the Apostle Paul teaches that to deny sexual difference is the consequence of the denial of the Creator (Rom 1, 24-32). It is asked: Can the Church derogate from this “principle,” considering it, contrary to what Veritatis Splendor 103 taught, as a mere ideal, and accepting as a “possible good” objectively sinful situations, such as same-sex unions, without betraying revealed doctrine? [Emphasis original] The letter they received from Francis was seven pages in total, with a page and a half given to responding to the issue of same-sex blessings. Francis stated that “the Church has a very clear conception of marriage: an exclusive, stable and indissoluble union between a man and a woman, naturally open to the begetting of children.” Due to only this union being “marriage,” wrote Francis, “the Church avoids any kind of rite or sacramental that could contradict this conviction and give the impression that something that is not marriage is recognized as marriage.” However, he continued by expressing an openness to other forms of unions, including same-sex couples, being granted a blessing. Nevertheless, in our dealings with people, we must not lose the pastoral charity that must permeate all our decisions and attitudes. The defense of objective truth is not the only expression of this charity, which is also made up of kindness, patience, understanding, tenderness and encouragement. Therefore, we cannot become judges who only deny, reject and exclude. Pope Francis further stated: For this reason, pastoral prudence must adequately discern whether there are forms of blessing, requested by one or more persons, that do not transmit a mistaken conception of marriage. Because when a blessing is requested, it is expressing a request for help from God, a plea to be able to live better, a trust in a Father who can help us to live better. [Emphasis not original] On the other hand, although there are situations that from an objective point of view are not morally acceptable, pastoral charity itself demands that we do not simply treat others as “sinners” whose guilt or responsibility may be due to their own fault. Con’t
But how very strange to hear about all this. Part of me thinks I am going mad. That this cannot possibly be True. That this is simply not happening.
Con’t The Pope added that such decisions which “form part of pastoral prudence, should not necessarily become a norm.” That is to say, that one country or diocese might deem it “pastorally prudent” to bless homosexual couples, while another might not. “Canon Law should not and cannot cover everything, nor should the Episcopal Conferences claim to do so with their various documents and protocols, because the life of the Church runs through many channels in addition to the normative ones,” he added. Cardinals respond to Pope It was due to receipt of this letter from the Pope that the five dubia cardinals issued their August 21 correspondence, with the line: “With the same sincerity with which You have answered us, we must add that Your answers have not resolved the doubts we had raised, but have, if anything, deepened them.” They stated in the second letter that any blessing of same-sex couples “might create confusion in any case, not only in that it might make them seem analogous to marriage, but also in that homosexual acts would be presented practically as a good, or at least as the possible good that God asks of people in their journey toward Him.” READ: Vatican and Cardinal Fernández fire back at cardinals’ new dubia about the Synod on Synodality The five cardinals thus asked: Is it possible that in some circumstances a pastor could bless unions between homosexual persons, thus suggesting that homosexual behavior as such would not be contrary to God’s law and the person’s journey toward God? Linked to this dubium is the need to raise another: does the teaching upheld by the universal ordinary magisterium, that every sexual act outside of marriage, and in particular homosexual acts, constitutes an objectively grave sin against God’s law, regardless of the circumstances in which it takes place and the intention with which it is carried out, continue to be valid? Pope Francis has not responded to this question. Catholic teaching on same-sex blessings In his first letter to the Corinthians, St. Paul states that homosexual actions are sinful, explaining that “neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers” will “inherit the kingdom of God,” but rather, according to his letter to the Romans, those who practice homosexuality will receive “in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” Under the leadership of Cardinal Ratzinger in 1986, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) issued a document instructing bishops on the pastoral care of homosexual persons. The CDF admonished bishops to ensure they, and any “pastoral programme” in the diocese are “clearly stating that homosexual activity is immoral.” READ: Pope Francis leads ecumenical leaders at Vatican prayer vigil for the Synod on Synodality Such an authentic pastoral approach would “assist homosexual persons at all levels of the spiritual life: through the sacraments, and in particular through the frequent and sincere use of the sacrament of Reconciliation, through prayer, witness, counsel and individual care,” stated the CDF. The instruction adds: But we wish to make it clear that departure from the Church’s teaching, or silence about it, in an effort to provide pastoral care is neither caring nor pastoral. Only what is true can ultimately be pastoral. The neglect of the Church’s position prevents homosexual men and women from receiving the care they need and deserve. Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not. In 2021, the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) – now led by Cardinal Fernández – stated clearly that the Church does not “power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.” The DDF stated that it is “not licit to impart a blessing on relationships, or partnerships, even stable, that involve sexual activity outside of marriage (i.e., outside the indissoluble union of a man and a woman open in itself to the transmission of life), as is the case of the unions between persons of the same sex.” But as part of the response to the five dubia cardinals’ question about Pope John Paul II’s Apostolic Letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis definitive statement that it is impossible to order women, the Pope’s July 11 letter stated: let us acknowledge that a clear and authoritative doctrine has not yet been exhaustively developed about the exact nature of a “definitive statement.” It is not a dogmatic definition, and yet it is to be observed by all. No one can publicly contradict it and yet it can be the subject of study, as is the case with the validity of ordinations in the Anglican Communion. It seems that both in practice and in writing, Pope Francis and his new vice-roy Cardinal Fernández have not come to terms with the concept of a “definitive statement,” and the impossibility of blessing what Scripture denotes as sinful.