It appears like they want to overwhelm the churches and priests with as many unrepentant sinners, atheists, and confused people as they can muster. Force the priests to decipher who isn't catholic, who shouldn't receive the sacraments, who is there only out of hate etc. Force them to have to stand against all the BS and confusion coming from the top down. Weaken and tire them so they loosen their stance on the truth. The only good thing is most of those people couldn't sit in a church for an hour to save their lives. Literally and figuratively! It's the ultimate attack on the faithful by attacking the priesthood. Double up your prayers for all the good bishops and priests. It's going to get very tough. The news media announced PF has oked blessing gay marriage. That is how my wife heard about it. If PF isn't the anti-pope or false prophet, he could look tame compared to the next one!! God bless everyone here. I don't post as often but I am staying up on many threads. For anyone interested my mother passed from cancer on Sept 16th. I repaired the relationship with my covid nut Dr. sister. One quick story about her passing....I was praying a lot that I would be there when she passed. She was in hospice. Her breathing was good on the last day so we didn't expect her to pass yet. Left late to sleep at bit at home. Got a call not too long after arriving she had passed. Rushed back. On the way, I tried to turn my GPS on my phone to make sure I didn't miss the building. Music pops on in car super loud, I couldn't turn it off with the car volume or my phone volume, not way to shut it off. It was You Can't Always Get What You Want right at the chorus. One more quick one, my wife was trying to resolve 2 major work issues for 10 years, both resolve the week after my mom passed. My mom spent 12 days in our house after hospital, then 7 days in hospice. Thanks mom! My wife help her so much at home and we could not have done it without her.
I don't know if anyone has posted about Cardinal Zen's intervention but he seems to have 'nailed it' all. WARNING - Cardinal Zen's Leaked Synod on Synodality Letter to the Bishops - YouTube Letter #136, 2023, Thur, Oct 5: Zen - Inside The Vatican We should also recall the 'co-incidence' of Saint Faustina's great suffering on the very date of Francis' birth, 17th December 1936 which she links to Jesus' suffering in the garden. December 17, [1936]. I have offered this day for priests. I have suffered more today than ever before, both interiorly and exteriorly. I did not know it was possible to suffer so much in one day. I tried to make a Holy Hour, in the course of which my spirit had a taste of the bitterness of the Garden of Gethsemane. I am fighting alone, supported by His arm, against all the difficulties that face me like unassailable walls. But I trust in the power of his name and I fear nothing.
What a beautiful testimony. I will pray more for priests. To be clear, the word “marriage” was not used. It’s unions. Still a grave error. I hope I’m not mis-speaking. You are right about the errors overwhelming the priests and the faithful. (leading souls to hell) You and your wife are blessed. May your beloved mother rest in the peace of Christ.
I fear the ultimate intention is to do away with communion. This is an incremental anti-Christian movement intent on destroying the Church founded by Jesus Christ. Our Lord assured us that the Gates of Hell would not prevail, but He said nothing of the damage inflicted upon souls in the process. He might have been giving a clue with His 'when the Son of Man returns, will there be Faith on earth?' statement. Let us hope that He was only prodding our complacency, of which, I would imagine, little remains among true Catholics. Give us, this day, our Daily Bread.
This humble priest continues to stand up, while bishops and cardinals act, as Mundabor describes, like kittens. Imagine Cardinals Muller, Burke, Sarah et al, making videos like this, even collectively. If enough of them had the guts to do this, Bergoglio wouldn't have the resources to shut them all down. Even if he did shut them all down, he's not going to live forever (although it seems like it) and bishops in previous generations underwent horrible tortures and deaths for the Faith.
Synod on Synodality Asks Members to Foster Communion with the Marginalized Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich (left), relator general of the Synod on Synodality, and Cardinal Mario Grech, secretary general of the Synod, at the Oct. 9, 2023, general congregation. | Credit: Vatican Media By Hannah Brockhaus Vatican City, 10 October, 2023 / 1:20 pm (ACI Africa). Synod on Synodality leaders invited participants to greater communion with Jesus and with others, including those who may rub them the wrong way, as they started a new discussion topic on Monday. “All are invited to be part of the Church,” Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich said at the start of the Oct. 9 general congregation. He cited Pope Francis’ comments at World Youth Day in Lisbon, Portugal, in August, that the Church is for “todos” (“everyone”). Though he was slated to attend the synod’s morning session, Pope Francis pulled out at the last minute due to “unforeseen commitments,” Vatican News reported. “In deep communion with His Father through the Holy Spirit, Jesus extended this communion to all the sinners,” Hollerich said in his remarks. “Are we ready to do the same? Are we ready to do this with groups that might irritate us because their way of being might seem to threaten our identity?” Failing to do so, he added, “will make us look like an identitarian club.” ADVERTISEMENT As relator general, the Luxembourg cardinal addresses participants at the beginning of each new discussion module. Oct. 9–12 the synod will focus on section B1 of the Instrumentum Laboris, or guiding document. Section B1 of the Instrumentum Laboris asks people to reflect on “the concrete daily life of Christian communities” and “the question of whether there are limits to our willingness to welcome people and groups, how to engage in dialogue with cultures and religions without compromising our identity, and our determination to be the voice of those on the margins and reaffirm that no one should be left behind.” Specific topics for discernment cover the greater inclusion of people with disabilities, the divorced and remarried, LGBTQ+ Catholics, refugees and migrants, and homeless people. Synod participants are also invited to reflect on interfaith and intercultural dialogue, justice and charity, relations between Eastern and Latin Catholics, and ecumenism. Hollerich said he was told that discussion of section B1 would be the time during the synod when “tensions will rise.” MORE IN VATICAN Synod on Synodality: Who is Overseeing the Draft Report at the End of the Assembly? Read the article “We are not afraid of tensions,” the cardinal said. “Tensions are part of the process, as long as we consider ourselves to be sisters and brothers walking together.” Anna Rowlands, a professor of Catholic social thought and practice at Durham University in Durham, England, also presented on communion, opening with a reference to a question posed to the assembly by Father Timothy Radcliffe, OP: “Can we find the courage to encounter reality, as it really is?” “He placed before us the paradox of our call to be Christlike: to hear, see, and feel the condition of our world, and yet to be gently honest with ourselves that we do not find bearing reality so easy,” she said. Section B1 of the Instrumentum Laboris, Rowlands said, “invites us to grow in communion by reflecting with humility with those who are vulnerable, suffering, or weak, on the vulnerabilities and weaknesses of the Church.” “We ask with courage how we might be closer to the poorest, more able to accompany all the baptized in a variety of human situations, disposed of false power, closer to our fellow Christians, and more engaged with our particular cultures,” the theologian added. ADVERTISEMENT Radcliffe, who also led a three-day retreat for synod participants before the assembly’s opening Oct. 4, gave a spiritual reflection on the topic of love Oct. 9. “We should be formed for deeply personal encounters with each other, in which we transcend easy labels. Love is personal and hatred is abstract,” the English priest said. “So many people feel excluded or marginalized in our Church because we have slapped abstract labels on them: divorced and remarried, gay people, polygamous people, refugees, Africans, Jesuits!” he said. (His joke about Jesuits being marginalized was met with laughter). “A friend said to me the other day: ‘I hate labels. I hate putting people in boxes. I cannot abide these conservatives,’” Radcliffe continued, to another small outburst of laughter. “If you really meet someone, you may become angry, but hatred cannot be sustained in a truly personal encounter. If you glimpse their humanity, you will see the one who created them and sustains them in being whose name is I AM,” he said. (Story continues below) https://www.aciafrica.org/news/9323...ers-to-foster-communion-with-the-marginalized
Synod on Synodality Members Ask ‘for Greater Discernment’ of Church Teaching on Sexuality Tomorrow morning, the small groups assigned the question of LGBTQ inclusion will finalize their reports and submit them to synod organizers. Delegates meet at round tables during the Synod on Synodality on Oct. 10, 2023. (Photo: Courtesy photo) Jonathan Liedl/CNAWorldOctober 11, 2023 Participants in the Synod on Synodality have asked “for greater discernment on the teaching of the Church on the subject of sexuality,” a Vatican spokesman said at a press briefing today. The revelation seems to be at odds with synod organizers’ repeated insistence that the monthlong assembly will not take up doctrinal questions but will instead focus on how the Church can better listen to its members. The discussion of sexual doctrine came during the synod members’ work in the morning session, shared Paolo Ruffini, the president of the synod’s communications commission. During that session, participants focused on the theme of “mercy and truth.” The theme includes a controversial question on “what concrete steps are needed to welcome those who feel excluded from the Church today because of their status or sexuality.” Ruffini said that while some asked for further discernment on the Church’s sexual teaching, others “said there’s no need for this further discernment.” Ruffini did not expand on what he meant by “discernment” and was not asked to clarify. Members made the request for “greater discernment” of the Church’s sexual doctrine during the assembly’s discussion of the controversial topic of LGBTQ inclusion. Following the synod’s working document, participants were asked to consider “what concrete steps are needed to welcome those who feel excluded from the Church today because of their status or sexuality.” Representatives for small groups assigned to the topic shared their table’s report with the wider assembly, while others made speeches in response. Ruffini said that speeches addressing “sexual identity” were met with “responsibility and comprehension, remaining faithful to the Gospel and the teaching of the Church.” He added that there was widespread agreement that the Church “must reject every form of homophobia” and that the lack of familiarity with the personal journey of LGBTQ-identifying people leads to “many problems.” Some speakers emphasized the importance of encountering LGBTQ people and developing pastoral ministries “to understand their lives,” said Ruffini, while others “highlighted the importance of remaining in the magisterial teaching of the Church.” Ruffini said that the climate was not characterized by polarization but by a family-style exchange of views. “How can we be welcoming for everyone, and, on the other hand, how can we remain faithful to truth?” he said describing the conversation. The synod spokesman did not disclose which participants were behind the push for “greater discernment” of the Church’s sexual doctrine, but several synod members have already signaled their intent to push for changes on Church teaching on the subject. German Bishops Georg Bätzing and Franz-Josef Overbeck, for instance, have said they plan to advocate for wider acceptance of the proposals adopted by the controversial German Synodal Way at the Synod on Synodality. The Synodal Way, a non-canonically recognized project of the German Bishops’ Conference and lay employees, approved blessings for same-sex unions this past March. If matters of doctrine are up for debate at the Synod on Synodality, it would fly in the face of repeated assurances to the contrary made by top officials. Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, the synod’s relator general, said in August 2022 that the synod “is not meant to change doctrine, but attitudes.” This past June, U.S. papal nuncio Cardinal Christoph Pierre told the U.S. bishops that “synodality is not a disguise for changing doctrine” but “a way of being Church.” And Cardinal Mario Grech, who heads the Vatican office for synods, said that “no one wants to depart from the Church’s teaching,” this past July in response to questions about doctrinal changes that could result from the synod. Tomorrow morning, the small groups assigned the question of LGBTQ inclusion will finalize their reports and submit them to synod organizers. The reports will then be used to draft outlines of the assembly’s proceedings, culminating with a final summary that the assembly will approve at the end of the month. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nc...scernment-of-church-teaching-on-sexuality?amp
As Father Z points out, this Sinod is all about Sodomy. https://wdtprs.com/2023/10/here-we-...want-greater-discernment-about-you-know-what/ The Sodomy Synod, that's what this is. And I suspect most of those involved are perverts, wanting to transform the Catholic Church into a perverted church, not because they believe in anything Catholic, but because they hate with every fibre of their body all the Truth that the Church has taught for millenia about their perversion. That's the real reason for their hatred of, and utter contempt, for the traditional (in the sense of the typically orthodox, not the Rad Trad types) faithful and they are led, facilitated, promoted and encouraged in every way in all of this, by the present pope.
Isn't it ironic that a synod whose motto is to apply the teachings of the Second Vatican Council could end up destroying all the dialogue initiated with the Orthodox over the last 60 years?
These people have already shown they have no intention to dialogue with anyone but themselves, nor, I would wager, do they give a fig about either VII or the Orthodox churches. This is a Synod of Destruction.
I think this could make many Vatican II enthusiasts join the ranks of resistance against the current pontificate, and this could have an effect on the next conclave, bringing a John XXIV or a Paul VII as a lifeline for the Church, which is not as comforting as Pius XIII, but as Pope Benedict XVI would say "it comforts me to know that God works with insufficient instruments".
