Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    I don't agree. Forced morality thru immoral means is not a better alternative.
     
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  2. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Throwing this out there, as it's been on my mind for awhile;
    Francis as Katechon. Is there anywhere that says the restrainer is to be someone who is personally holy? Or is it just someone holding back the onslaught of what is to come? Francis may not be a holy man, but he, whatever we think, is sitting on Peter's Chair. He reminds me of the emperor, Commodus, in the show Gladiator. "He is not a moral man". And he is not well. Some are waiting for him to pass on.
    When he does die, what will that conclave even be like? And what happens if a "Cardinal Sarah" is elected? Will we just relax then and leave him to it, criticizing him if he doesn't do what we think he should? Or if a "Cardinal Cupich" is elected? Do we then give up?
    Many where I am are waiting in great hope for the next election, to be rid of Trudeau. Personally, and I've thought this now for quite awhile, I seriously doubt there will even be another election here or in the USA for that matter. So at this point, what could a new good Holy Father do?
    The world, including the Church, is a tinderbox waiting to go up in flames.......People like Liz Yore, and the others doing so much work around the validity of the last conclave etc etc, are perhaps laying the groundwork for the "council fathers" who will ultimately decide on Francis' legitimacy. That's not a bad thing. We already know what his legacy is, and it's not good. But, is it at all possible that his placement on "Peter's Chair" is holding back what is to come???

    Like some, I may just disappear for awhile....sometimes a misunderstanding can cause more grief than one can handle....doors may be presented to us, but some are meant to stay closed.....as they were meant for others....
     
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  3. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    No chance
     
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  4. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Hmmm not likely.

    The Bible passage suggests the katechon is a force for good.

    The present pope is a force for evil.

    The katechon holds back chastisements.

    The present pope promotes them.
     
  5. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Fair enough.

    But there is One Who can bring good from evil..
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2023
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  6. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    For a long time now, I have been thinking that Pope Benedict was the Katechon. God bless!
     
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  7. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Likewise! And things have certainly become much worse over the past year. imho, it's like being at the precipice, but the "fence" hasn't completely given way yet........
     
  8. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    I personally don't believe the katechon is a human being. Humans only are on earth a max of 100 yrs. Katechon has to have been restraining evil since Christ and the start of the Church. I therefore think the katechon is the holy mass..when the mass is suppressed and not allowed to be practiced evil will reign. We haven't seen anything yet.
     
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  9. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    The katechon/restrainer mention is truly a cryptic mysterious passage in the Bible.

    However, all translations refer to the kathechon as a human being. He is referred to as “he”.

    Pope Benedict sure comes to mind. He was a good holy man. His mere physical presence was a hindrance even after he was taken out of the way by the wolves (under what circumstances God only knows).

    Check out the various translations below.


    2 THESSALONIANS 2:7
    KJ21
    For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now holdeth back will hold him back, until he is taken out of the way.
    ASV
    For the mystery of lawlessness doth already work: only there is one that restraineth now, until he be taken out of the way.
    AMP
    For the mystery of lawlessness [rebellion against divine authority and the coming reign of lawlessness] is already at work; [but it is restrained] only until he who now restrains it is taken out of the way.
    AMPC
    For the mystery of lawlessness (that hidden principle of rebellion against constituted authority) is already at work in the world, [but it is] restrained only until he who restrains is taken out of the way.
    BRG
    For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    CSB
    For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one now restraining will do so until he is out of the way,
    CEB
    The hidden plan to live without any law is at work now, but it will be secret only until the one who is holding it back is out of the way.
     
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  10. Heidi

    Heidi Powers

    Yes, I was going to say this exact thing.
     
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  11. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    He = Jesus Christ (holy eucharist)
     
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  12. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Isn't there an interpretation that says the katechon is a person and an object? I have a vague memory of watching discussions where people who seemed to have studied the topic and knew what they were talking about said that the katechon is referred to as an object (it) and a man. Depending on the context couldn't both the object and the person be the Eucharist?
     
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  13. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/ww3-alert-ukraine-uses-nato-weapons

    ⚠️WW3 ALERT⚠️ Ukraine Uses NATO Weapons to Strike Civilians in Belgorod
    Clandestine
    ⚠️WW3 ALERT⚠️

    Today, Ukraine launched a missile strike, with NATO weapons (Czech), onto civilian locations, in Belgorod city center, killing 14 civilians, 2 children, and injuring over 100.

    Russia have called an emergency UN Security Council meeting, and Russian officials are blaming the US for being the main culprits behind the strikes.

    Russian Ambassador Anatoly Antonov just spoke to the media and said the US are “waging a hybrid war against Russia and throwing modern Western weapons to the front against the Russian Armed Forces”.

    It appears that the West are DESPERATELY trying to instigate Russia to retaliate and escalate so they can justify bringing NATO in and initiating all-out WW3. Ukraine’s military is down to nothing and cannot hold on much longer. Their only hope is to get the US MIL to intervene and take over for them.

    Russia have been warning that if NATO weaponry are used to strike Russian territory, that would be a red line. We are one or two bad decisions away from full-scale kinetic war with Russia, and thus WW3.

    Buckle up.

    https://t.me/mod_russia_en/1166

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  14. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-precipice?

    Welcome to the Precipice
    Clandestine
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    Ukraine is on it’s last leg, funding is drying up, and the public don’t support the cause anymore.

    Trump is going to win the election if the status quo remains.

    How can the Deep State prevent this? WW3. They can cancel the election AND intervene to save Ukraine. Kill two birds with one stone.

    Keep this in mind as NATO, via Ukraine as proxy, continue to conduct terror attacks on Russian civilians. They are trying to push Putin into doing something rash, so they can justify intervention, have their war, implement emergency powers, retain their power, prevent Trump from taking office, and prevent Russia from exposing all the offshore Deep State assets in Ukraine, namely the biological malfeasance.

    It doesn’t look like they are going the pandemic route this election season. They are going for martial law and all-out war, because they know if the election happens, Trump will win, and they will pay the ultimate price.

    Welcome to the precipice.


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  15. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    The FBI already has started making lists of faithful Catholics.
    Why the FBI is being accused of investigating the Catholic Church (msn.com)
    The Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) planned to infiltrate Catholic churches and recruit clergy and other church officials to inform on allegedly suspicious parishioners deemed capable of attracting attention from extremist groups, according to recently surfaced documentation that's sparked controversy.
     
  16. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    I just received a Facebook notification that I have another new follower (not a friend request). From their Facebook account page:
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    Hmmm…..good thing I’m not paranoid.
     
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  17. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    :eek:
     
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  18. RT's coverage of the Ukrainian airstrike (they're implicating Brits and Americans):

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589953-us-uk-helped-ukraine-strike-belgorod/

    West complicit in Ukraine’s deadly strikes on Belgorod – Moscow
    American and British “consultants” have helped Kiev to kill civilians, the Russian envoy to the UN has said
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    The aftermath of Ukrainian strikes on Belgorod, Russia, on December 30, 2023. © Anton Vergun / Sputnik
    The US and Britain have helped Ukraine carry out the deadly strikes on the Russian border city of Belgorod, Russian envoy to the UN Vassily Nebenzia told the Security Council on Saturday.

    Russia requested the urgent Security Council meeting after Ukrainian forces shelled Belgorod earlier that day, killing at least 21 people and injuring more than 110.

    In his speech, Nebenzia described the shelling as “a premeditated act of terrorism against civilians,” arguing that Kiev’s Western supporters share the responsibility for deaths.

    “The West is complicit in the crimes committed by the gang [in power] in Kiev,” the diplomat said. “We know that British and American consultants were directly involved in the organization of this terrorist act.”

    He warned that “the organizers and perpetrators” of the strikes will “be punished.”

    According to the Russian Defense Ministry, Ukrainian troops used the domestically produced Olkha system to fire rockets equipped with cluster bomb warheads into Belgorod. A Czech-made RM-70 Vampire – an upgraded heavier version of the Soviet BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launcher – was also used, the MOD said.

    READ MORE: Aftermath of deadly Ukrainian attack on Russian city caught on VIDEO
    The UN has condemned the killing of civilians in both Russia and Ukraine. Russian envoy Nebenzia, however, argued at the Security Council meeting on Friday that people in Kiev and other Ukrainian cities were killed by the faulty work of Ukrainian air defenses. He also accused Ukraine of posting anti-air missiles in residential areas.
     
  19. Carmelite

    Carmelite Archangels

    It may be time to get off social media
     
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  20. Ang

    Ang Archangels

    This is the only social media I partake in. I am so grateful for the forum and all here.
     
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