The Future of the United States of America.

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by padraig, May 5, 2010.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    This boggles my mind. Utterly. There are NO heroes in this conflict. What a reckoning is coming. It's frightening.
     
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    You are right.
     
  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    You're right that he couldn't be as bad as Biden. As a Catholic, Biden should know better. Nevertheless, natural law is written on every human heart so, even 'though money appears to be Trump's god, he doesn't get a pass. He fawned over that genocidal maniac, Netanyahu, and declared himself Israel's greatest friend as he promised yet another billion dollars in military aid. Now he is threatening to release hell on Israel's victims, knowing full well that Israel has already breached the terms of the agreement many times over. Those are the words and deeds of a monster.

    In regard to the "chosen people", if that description is restricted to bloodline, how can anyone determine who is or isn't "chosen"? That region has been invaded so many times. Centuries of Muslim domination saw many forced conversions. The first Christians were Jews, so there could be very many "pure blood" Christians. The same could probably be said of Muslims who are descended from Jews who were forced converts to Islam. If "chosen" means having the correct DNA, denying that Jesus is the Christ, keeping the Mosaic law and believing that the Torah is the inspired word of God, that rules out Netanyahu and probably a majority of Jews not just in Israel but Jews everywhere.

    In this discussion, Col. Jacques Baud lays out well the complicated situation in Palestine. It's long but worth the time for anyone trying to sort the facts from the propaganda. Like you, Col. Baud is inclined to give Trump the benefit of the doubt:
     
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  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I am only giving Trump some limited benefit of doubt because the ceasefire that now exists, today, which replaces a continuous Netanyahu/Biden genocide is entirely his decision. I refuse to label him a monster on account of his words in a situation where currently no Gazans are dying (certainly not that can be attributed to Donald Trump). If he becomes responsible for a situation in which the genocide recommences, this will be monstrous behaviour on his part, but I would advise everybody to hold their horses...

    Of course, you are right concerning the Chosen People and their dubious blood-line connections, which gives the lie to their claims of a racist 'anti-semitism'. In truth, one is an anti-semite, by their diktat, who dares to question the actions of the Jews, no matter how murderous or abominous. The Jews of the present haven't inherited the genes of those of the Old Testament, but they have chosen to mimic their most murderous traits. In so doing, they are, as far as the rest of the human race is concerned, greatly deflating the value of the Holocaust they themselves suffered at the hands of the neo-pagan/atheist Nazis.
     
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  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Like shooting fish in a barrel. If this was done to my own community, I, myself, would have to be a saint not to murder hostages of the perpetrators, I think. That they are emaciated simply leaves them in the state of most Gazans. We're admonished to 'love our enemies', but this was not accompanied, to my knowledge, by any condition that we must treat them better than ourselves.
     
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  6. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Horrifying. Both sides serve Satan, a diabolical
    disorientation of societies. "They are blind, and leaders of the blind...and both fall into the pit".
    Matt.15:14
     
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  7. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    I read that Trump wants Gaza to be a billionaires paradise. Luz De Maria said the peace is a false peace.
     
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  8. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Honestly, I can't see how this year can be another year of plodding along. Something major is likely to happen this year...
     
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  9. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    What if Trump is posing as a Christian? Just to get the Christian vote. I don't know, I just think about these things...
     
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  10. I see it as temporary only...just my opinion.
     
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  11. karnala

    karnala Archangels

    I remember in Trump's previous First Presidency, the Evangelicals were claiming he was "the chosen one". Especially by Wayne Allyn Root, the man who crowned Trump 'King of Israel'. Here’s the website which still has the original twitter posts:

    https://www.jpost.com/American-Poli...n-Root-who-called-Trump-King-of-Israel-599398


    "Root, the Libertarian Party’s vice presidential nominee in 2008, announced his support for the businessman and reality star almost as soon as Trump announced he was running in June 2015" ..

    “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world … and the Jewish people in Israel love him … like he’s the King of Israel. They love him like he is the second coming of God,” the quote said ..

    Root told JTA he “took Jesus Christ as a savior” about 30 years ago, but he still considers himself Jewish.

     
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  12. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Trump isn't heaven sent just to genocide supporting Christians. Religious Zionists tell him that he's God's emissary. If you can read the Jerusalem Post without vomiting, they'll tell you all about it here: https://www.jpost.com/judaism/article-841916
    That should get them another billion dollars worth of bombs for the slaughter.

    I wonder do those genocidal so-called Christians realise that one of the spiritual leaders of the Christian Zionist movement, Rabbi Kook, believed that there is a greater difference between the spiritual souls of Jews and gentiles than between the biological souls of humans and animals because between the latter there is only a quantitative difference but between the former there exists a qualitative, essential difference. A not so well informed Jew might interpret that to mean that all gentiles are Amalek.
     
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  13. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    There are heroes. The ordinary Palestinians who do their best to survive among the wanton destruction and wholesale slaughter committed by people claiming to be acting for God. Next time Rubio calls people savages, he should take a long look in the mirror. If he's typical of Cuban Catholics I'm not surprised that Communism took over that country.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I took it that AED meant that here were no heroes among the political and military players that instigated and maintain the conflict and that certainly applies to both sides. One, of course, ought not extend such unfortunate facts to apply to entire nations.

    There are many heroes in Gaza, most particularly the medical personnel who struggled to do their duty in the most appalling of circumstances, including being specifically targetted by the genociders.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    Thank you DeGaulle. That is exactly what I meant. I was not referring to the many acts of sacrifice and heroism among the ordinary people in this conflict.
     
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  16. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    There's definitely some ppl that think Trump & America will save the world - only God can do that. There's also some ppl that think of Trump as their God. :(
     
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  17. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Agreed. :(
     
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  18. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    They are not reading their bibles right.

    Psalms 146:3

    Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save. 4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. 5 Blessed are those whose help is the God of Jacob, whose hope is in the LORD their God.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Amen!!!
     
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  20. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Yes, I understand what AED meant and she has always shown true Christian compassion for the victims of the evil driven by the super race ideology.

    We all, however, can fall for the deception that some people are children of a lesser God because they're not quite like us. I've certainly been so deceived by believing media reports that all Israeli attacks on the Palestinians are reprisals when more often than not the opposite has been the case. Only the Israelis have the right to defend themselves is accepted as the eleventh Commandment in Western Christianity. Those Muslims bring it on themselves seems to be the acceptable line of thought. That Christian Palestinians are also targets of the Zionists disturbs Western Christians merely serves to reinforce the Muslim view that Christians share the Zionist belief that Muslims are sub-human. We should be ashamed that we are shocked at Christians being killed by Israeli snipers while accepting carpet bombing of Muslims.

    There are degrees of evil, measured by the gravity of the offence and the level of knowledge and consent of the perpetrator. Jesus summed up the Law as love of God and love of neighbour. Jesus didn't invent a new Law and he was answering a question put to him by Jews, so that summary applies to Jews as well as Christians. So who is more Satanic? A Muslim outside the Law who resorts to violence to free his people from oppression? A Jew under the Law who commits oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide? A baptised Christian who supports the oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide? Surely the answer must be obvious to any Cristian, yet if you read through this and other threads there are attempts to put them all on the same level. Yes, there are great heroic doctors willing to give their lives to save others. There are also very many others without medical skills who do what they can to help their neighbours. They're all heroes.

    Some of the rabbis who opposed Kook's line that the Zionists were unknowingly doing God's will by hastening the arrival of the Messiah believed that Jewish nationalism was incompatible with the Jewish faith. Attempting to precipitate the end was sinful to them. Jews who share that belief are a tiny minority now, even among Orthodox Jews. Zionism infiltrated and gradually changed Jewish orthodoxy just as it has infiltrated and changed Christianity in the West, especially in the US. It's an unhealthy brand of nationalism, similar to the type that took hold in 1930's Germany.

    My apologies to AED for any offence caused to her.
     
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