Trump & Vance Humiliated Zelensky

Living in the US we don’t hear the chatter of European countries. One thought on my mind about UK though. Praying Divine Office everyday and reading the biographies of the saints… so many of them were so cruelly tortured in England. Over centuries. And I think of the cruel nature of Cromwell in Ireland. And I see them today, the English with their lust for war. Even though they are such a small country. I wonder if they are setting themselves up to be obliterated. They are the first Eu country to give Ukraine money and boots for war, not persuing peace. I feel really bad for Belfast where the English want to set up a missile factory, it puts that city on the radar for destruction. And Ukraine conscripting soldiers from other European countries. It’s kind of suicidal, you would think they would jump on the peace train. Just some of my thoughts.

 

I think you’re 100% right.

Its crazy. It’s mind boggling.

Regardless of what we think of Trump he wants peace in Ukraine.

The US NOW wants peace.

Europe wants war.

That’s it in a nutshell.

Russia will not accept an European army in Ukraine.

Just as the US would not accept a Russian/Chinese army in Tijuana.

 

There will be peace in Ukraine. Soon.
The deep state will have to come up with something special if it wants to prevent that.
If it only has the EU puppets in its hands, that won't be enough to prolong the war.
Mr. Trump

Rubio: Ukraine is a proxy war, and we asked Ukraine not to sabotage diplomacy...(does he really have a cross on his forehead, wow... unimaginable for me for a german politician)
https://x.com/Mylovanov/status/1897623623243858376

The U.S. will continue to suspend weapon supplies and intelligence sharing with Ukraine until a date for peace talks with Russia is set, White House national security adviser Mike Waltz said on Wednesday.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/05/us-ukraine-weapons-intelligence-sharing-pause-russia-talks

America cut a key intel link for ...targeting data for HIMARS
https://x.com/olliecarroll/status/1897340316942000271

Secret talks between Trump and Ukrainian opposition: Poroshenko, Tymoshenko explain what happened (link is in Ukrainian)
https://informator.ua/uk/tayemni-pe...o-ta-timoshenko-poyasnili-shcho-vidbuvayetsya

Putin unleashes Iskander-M missile attack to 'sink container ship in Odesa carrying cargo of British weapons for Ukraine'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14452455/Putin-missile-attack-sink-container-ship-British-weapons-Ukraine.html

Meanwhile, the democrats do a little comedy
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1896932027846496739

Ukraine will be pacified, I am confident that this will succeed.
(The sticking point for Trump will be the Middle East and the question of what he and his influencers are planning there..I have Irlmaier in mind here - "Everyone calls for peace, Shalom! That's when it will happen - a new Middle East war flares up again...")

 

Marie Julie Jahenny said Paris would be nuked. But from her description it will be tactical , rather than strategic. But that will be the only one deployed in France.

 

The Russians have dismissed a ceasefire. They're going to continue. Has Trump miscalculated? Putin, no doubt directing his comments at Macron but without naming him, reminded people of what happened after Napolean's catastrophic invasion. Will Macron's threats and provocations lead to Russia continuing further?

 

Yes I’m thinking Putin is not seeing a United front with the US and Europe. They are at their weakest right now so I’m thinking he will move into Ukraine. And if the UK puts boots on the ground I see a missile flying into the UK. Shame on Zelensky. We were So Close. But as Pres Trump said, Z does not want peace he wants war…fight fight fight. I really think Pres Trump has lost his heart in it after Z blindsided him in front of the world.

 

https://www.tfp.org/turning-just-war-theory-into-justified-surrender-theory/


"...Unadulterated just war theory and the principle of solidarity are clear. They demand that the West continue supporting Ukraine in its brave resistance to Russia’s unjust war of conquest...."

AMEN!

 

Yes, I can uderstand that. But it seems Ukraine does not have the support of the rest of Europe in money or man power and has relied on the US to provide that. We fought in Viet Nam and lost thousands of soldiers and now it is communist anyway. Pres. Trump was offering a solution, have the US there in a joint venture and if Putin attacks he is attacking the west, too. Sounded like a good plan to me. But Z just wanted us to send over our troops. That was my take on it. Now that the UK has committed troops and money he wants the US to join back in. Now Putin is saying no to a peace agreement. This is not a winning scenario.

 

Look, we all know that Ukraine cannot win the war against Russia, and when you look at everything that the globalists have done in the EU and the US under Biden, it has been a weakening of the West. This has been achieved through migration, debt, the elimination of cheap energy based on fossil fuels, and the introduction of LGBT propaganda.

Everything being done has been aimed at bringing Western Christian civilization to its knees. The crazier it gets, the better it was for them. Of course, some politicians, bankers, and the military-industrial complex have profited. However, the standard of living, security, and economic power of citizens in the West have drastically declined.

Trump wants to maintain American hegemony, which is heavily threatened by China, while the globalists aim for a one-world communist system, and their goal is that China’s growth benefits them.

The US is no longer a power that can fight on two major fronts, against Russia and against China. Trump must turn towards China, which is advancing in all areas, from the military industry, economy, and most importantly, technology, where they are already surpassing some American companies in artificial intelligence and chip production. China is also now receiving cheap Russian energy, and the whole process is cheaper for them, spending less money which they redirect to other areas.

Trump knows he has to exit the Ukrainian conflict, while the globalists want to continue weakening both Europe and the US, which is still in NATO and still obligated to defend in case European countries enter a conflict.

What do you think about Trump asking for talks with Iran through Putin's mediation? It’s because his focus is on China, and the war in Ukraine must stop because the US is no longer powerful enough to fight on multiple fronts including Iran, as they will lose their position as the world leader, and with that, the entire economy based on the dollar will collapse. What do you think will happen when the $36 trillion debt, which is covered by other countries because global trade is based on the dollar, comes back to the US if it stops being number one? The US would return to the Stone Age, and Trump knows that.

That’s why he’s returning to reindustrialization, bringing American companies back to the US to kickstart the economy, and introducing tariffs on foreign imports, forcing them to return. This will hurt the standard of living for Americans by raising prices, but in the long term, it will replace federal taxes and internal taxes within the country through tariffs, while allies like Mexico, Canada, and the EU will suffer a big blow.

The EU is the biggest loser: we got dragged into the war in Ukraine, lost cheap raw materials and gas from Russia, and now we import expensive LNG gas from the US. The economy will suffer in terms of production, and Trump will impose high tariffs on us, and we will also lose minerals to cover our debts since the US and the UK will seize those minerals.

Europe’s goal is to continue the war because by increasing the intensity of the conflict, the US gets dragged deeper and will be forced to react. What do you think about the nuclear power plant in Ukraine being struck a few days before Trump’s arrival? Why did they start drastic attacks on Russian oil facilities? The goal is to escalate the war.

Europe could fall into major internal conflicts because we have so many migrants, the entire health and social system is heavily burdened by the old population and now the industry is under great pressure which is not yet visible because everything is subsidized.
European leaders need war because the globalist policy of Europe will fall apart in great disorder when economic problems come, and no profit will be made from the war in Ukraine.

 

I was hoping for this kind of input . . .something to really chew on. Makes me more aware of what is going on around us. I know that Zelensky closed down all the churches in Ukraine, I'm wondering if they have opened up again. And on top of all this we have the covid scare and the attempt to shut down our country. It feels like the rubber band is ready to break . . .

 

All opposition has been abolished, the Russian Orthodox Church has been closed, all media have been placed under one roof controlled by the government, independent journalists are being imprisoned, as well as political and military members who speak out against the Ukranian authorities. People are literally being dragged off the streets to the battlefield, and those who capture Ukrainians on the streets to send them to the frontlines are punished if they don't gather enough. They are then sent as a punishment to the first lines, which are, to say the least, 'slaughterhouses' because the war is being fought like WW1 with minimal movement of the lines and huge casualties. The goal is to prevent elections because Zelensky is losing support. The morbidness of the situation is shown by the fact that many European countries wanted to send male refugees from Ukraine back to Ukraine to be mobilized because Ukraine is lacking soldiers. And not to mention that Zelensky's mandate expired in May of last year, and he is no longer legally in power...Elections are prohibited while there is a state of emergency, and it lasts as long as there is war, and war lasts until the Ukranian and Russian sides sit down at the table...

 

Absolutely not. Here's the actual wording of Catholic just war theory quoted from the Catechism: https://www.catholic.com/qa/what-is-a-just-war

The author of the article in your link fails to mention that.......

The damage inflicted by Ukraine on its ethnic Russian minority was lasting, grave and certain;

Ukraine broke the terms of three agreements.

Ukraine passed a law making it illegal for anyone to negotiate with Russia's elected President. That law remains in force to this day despite the Russian President having been re-elected and Zelensky's term of office having expired.

There was no prospect of Ukraine beating Russia. Zelensky knew that when he took office after running on a platform of seeking peace, and now he has been asking the West to supply nuclear weapons to Ukraine since shortly after he took office.

The author of the article in your link also conveniently fails to mention what the US Secretary of State admitted openly in the past couple of days: "This is a proxy war between the US and Russia". At least your current President seems to be making some effort to stop the war. Someone needs to remind the author of the article that Jesus is the prince of peace and not prince of the US military industrial complex.

 

Gotta say I am very surprised to see posts from Catholics siding with Russia over the Ukraine, especially in light of Ukrainian Catholic bishops telling us how bad things are for them there in country. This isn't "main stream media" but good Catholic bishops.

Cross-posting a good article from John Horvat on what the bishops say.

Zelensky isn't the bad guy. The Ukrainian bishops aren't the bad guys. Neither are the Ukrainian citizens. Be more united in prayer for them as they struggle to defend themselves against an unjust aggressor... words from CATHOLIC bishops over there.

 

IMO we limit our thinking regarding possibility due to focusing too much on geography. As you mentioned earlier, the war in Ukraine is a means to launder tax payer money. It is also a means to access free weapons in order to sell them to other nations. It also is a way to deplete the West and further put people under globalist chains. Alledgedly, there are 170 trillion US dollars in hidden assets. 500k per citizen. This probably works out to something similar in other nations per capita as well.

The goal isn't so much to accumulate money currently as much as it is to prevent citizens from having access to wealth. Crippling inflation plays into this as well. The war also has the potential to clear out young fertile white men from Europe. Leading further to the islamification of Europe. Wiping out both Christianity and white European culture, which is based on Christianity, at the same time. Also, war helps with the black plague conditions they want to introduce which they intend to wipe out the majority of the world's population with.

 

Here's some more for you and other Americans, especially American Republican voters, to chew on. Times Radio is to all intents and purposes a British establishment mouthpiece. They have been saying since the start of the war that Russia is a rag-tag army being soundly beaten by Ukraine while simultaneously saying that Russia is about to invade all of Europe.



It wasn't the Russians who interfered in the US elections. Listen to how they talk about hoping for a Harris win or, failing that, Trump reinstating the same people who limited his first presidency. Take note of the supercilious way they talk about Americans. Those people wouldn't spit on the average Democratic voter but they put their all into a Harris win. No doubt they're flabbergasted that Trump wasn't bowled over by an invite to tge palace. That's what the dregs of empire looks like. Take care that you Americans don't become their carbon copy.

The current European leaders bet the house on the US backstop in the mistaken belief that regime change in Russia was in the bag - that the Russian people were so terrified of the combined US-European alliance they would give Putin the Ceaucesu treatment. They were wrong and now they're in panic mode, desperately hoping that the US congress will declare war on Russia or put enough pressure on Trump to guarantee the backstop. Failing that, they'll settle for dragging out the war until the mid-term elections hoping for a win for the Democrats. They can't afford to lose no matter how many Ukrainian, European or American lives are lost.

 

I am surprised there are Catholics out there who know nothing about maidan, an agreement on non-expansion of NATO to Eastern Europe, or that Ukraine has been used as a proxy of the West (primarily the US) against Russia. That somehow a Catholic should mindlessly follow what bishops say given how much corruption there has been in the church. It's like I have time warped backwards a decade.

 

Please show me how the bishops are incorrect and that the bishops saying it are corrupt.

... and remember... the Ukraine was given a security and territorial agreement when they gave up their nuclear weapons. But I suppose no one cares about country borders nowadays... let's just take whatever we want.

 

I agree that bishops can sometimes be corrupt, but the worst example has come from outside our circle, with Kirill’s leadership in the Russian Orthodox Patriarchate supporting aggression against Ukraine. It’s an extremely cynical stance, turning this war into a kind of crusade against the West.

A few days ago, Putin offered Trump a joint mineral exploration deal. And while it hardly needs to be said, that is precisely the reason for the invasion— a war with no good guys on either geopolitical side. However, it’s interesting to note that, perhaps in Putinist logic, sometimes it’s worth making a deal with the "Devil" in his war against the "satanic West" when there’s an opportunity for a good business deal.

The invasion shows that Putin threw away the non-aggression pact with Ukraine, which had dismantled its nuclear arsenal. It becomes clear that, in Putinist logic, states within a neighboring country have the autonomy to decide their own future through a referendum. However, neighboring countries—former Soviet republics that suffered terribly under communism—have no autonomy to join a protective alliance with NATO. Perhaps Putin expects that if he installs a puppet leader, like the dictator of Belarus, then Ukraine will finally have the "autonomy" to decide, through a "democratic referendum," whether it wants to live under Russia’s protection in a military and economic alliance.

 

I would like to see what will happen in four years if the Democrats return to power amid a possible comprehensive agreement between Russia and the U.S. regarding mineral exploration in Ukraine. Would Putin trust that this would deter the Democrats from reigniting hostilities, or would it lead to a breakdown of the agreement and possibly even a direct war over the division of what remains of Ukraine (financially viable territory)?

 

The security agreement given to Ukraine was in the event of nukes being used against them. They didn't have the codes for the Soviet weapons any more than the Turks ever had the codes of US nukes in Turkey. Church just war teaching doesn't depend on the opinion of individual bishops. The teaching is clear and the war in Ukraine falls short on more than one justifying condition.

This is probably one of the most accurate US news reports from 2014 about the coup:


And here is Mrs Newland's conversation with the US Ambassador choosing members of the replacement for the elected government:


Compare what they did in Ukraine with the hysteria in the US over the January 6 protest.

Lastly, here's the person some Bishops want a nuclear war to keep in office: