While the prophetic nature of LTTW has always interested me, I have found myself reading them less frequently. It bothers me that there are very few exhortations to prayer, penance, and receiving the sacraments. I personally cannot attest to these locutions as bearing much fruit in my spiritual life as I feel other purported locutions or heavenly messages have. That being said, I know that others enjoy them and cannot deny that they may receive benefit from them!
In a recent LTTW locution Mary has to justify her ramblings on all these different topics or at least ackowlege it. Odd to say the least. Then another she says she has been speaking from the heart this whole time but now has to speak clearly from her mind but soon after says from her heart again. The supposedly clear, from her mind words are exactly the same as they have been for months, unclear ramblings about the world, the church, current events, short term vague predictions, etc. with just a little follow me thrown in. She also implys Putin was responsible for the downed plan when all evidents is pointing to the other side. 100's and 100's of innocent men, women and children killed by Israel and not worthy of a mention.....in fact she, like so many brainwashed people won't dare criticize Israel, still acting like this slaughter was self defence. To me LTTW may have started somewhat prophetic but has turned into a biased, U.S. based, nonsensical ramble. I in no way wish to disrespect Our Lady as I count on her everyday and feel I am close to her. To me this is not her. I try to picture sitting in a room with Jesus and Mary and some apostles along with various regular people. Jesus carefully not wasting a word as he speaks and interacts and based on the feeling from LTTW Mary in the corner non stop gossiping to anyone who would listen. If there is one thing I associate Mary with it's love, I don't feel it nor read it in these messages. They also imply the only way you will hear from her is through these messages. Looking at the stats this web site has not grown at all and the dominant viewship is USA. Where is the fruit I ask? No offence to those reading and believing nor to Jesus, Mary and the Almighty Lord. Do you not read and say in your mind....her we go again, more of the same.....I can't even get through them anymore so am moving on from them.
There is something else that strikes me with these and other alleged messages. It is the language and the salutations. The LTTW messages contain many, many modern slick lingo phrases like "on the scene", and "third stage" <-(either rocket engines, or labor), "the timetable", "the Middle East", "vacuum of power", "inevitable explosion", "biblical prophecies" <-(this word biblical in particular seems unlikely speech about scripture from Our Lady). LTTW also contains absolutes like this one "America, take up again your former position. Russia is your sworn enemy, and you foolishly sign treaties with her. I weep over you, foolish America." <-(as if there are no parts of the Body of Christ in Russia). Other alleged apparitions (such as many of those re-posted on "After The Warning" have some common elements that do NOT appear in the language of Mary in most of the approved apparitions or in Garabandal. It seems to be these flowery, super-emotional references to us collectively as "children", which are not wrong dogmatically, but are not consistent with her demeanor in approved apparitions. In approved apparitions, these references are limited to direct address of the visionary ("my daughter", or "my child" when accurate/appropriate), and more collective addresses were not flowery ("people of the world", "many souls", etc.). Examples: "Dear Children" "Beloved Children" "Grasp this, Children" "My precious little children" "Thank you for having responded to my call...." These don't show up in Lourdes, La Salette, Fatima, Akita, Garabandal, etc..... I don't presume to conclude anything here, but these are just observations I am making as I (along with everyone here) seek to hear Mary's unique and singular personhood and personality in these messages.
These are locutions being discerned under the direction of a spiritual advisor, not visions (normally considered more reliable) with messages like Lourdes, Fatima et al. It's a different category according to the Church and needing more of a close understanding of the personality of the locutionist her/himself through whom they are filtered. They were also ordered to be given to Msgr Esseff for his own judgment in order for release. So one would have to include his experience of many years of giving spiritual direction to many types of souls. And he certainly has a trusted reputation for such by the Church. Most readers of them should admit that they have not the same level of understanding for similar discernment of such. Perhaps they should be included in a category more like the messages of Fr. Gobbi...also locutions. There was/is still much discussion and/or greater or lesser comprehension of those too.
That which is true will endure, that which is false will wither. Isaiah 40:8 The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God endures forever."
Here is the newest message from LTTW: Lasting Light Upon the Darkness Aug 6: 1. Casting Light Upon Cultures of Darkness http://www.locutions.org/category/lasting-light-upon-the-darkness/
I have been following the LTTW messages for the past 6 months and have experienced very positive things. I had the misfortune of reading the ill reputed MDM messages and experienced anxiety and confusion. However, with the LTTW I have experienced a lot of grace and guidance and genuinely feel they are good Beautiful.
OT....Probably most here already know about this new film, Mary of Nazareth, but just in case here is a link to the trailer. I am told that it is very well done:
Have the locutions made any specific prophecies that did not come true? Have they made any specific prophecies that did come true?
Back in 2011 the messages stated that the so called "Arab Spring" was not as positive as it appeared, and that it would lead to a consolidation of the various muslim extremists groups in the Middle-East, which has proven to to be accurate as is the case with the emergence of ISIS an other terrorist organisations that have come together. Our Lady in the messages also stated to "keep an eye on Israel", the more danger to Israel the closer we are to the events, she has said.
I'm sure a long list of 'prophecies' that appear to have come true could be made as the messages are often very vague and general. As the question was for locutions that did not come true, I will quote (again) the one message which represents a 'mistake' as Egypt is now recognised as stable and anti-fundamentalist. Of course anything can happen in the future but the message below is quite specific: Formerly, I spoke about the uprisings in Egypt and Libya. I said that they were only the beginning, the first round of evils that would burn away protection around Israel. I said that they would burn themselves out when the fuel for those fires was consumed. Now, this has taken place and the designs of the Evil One have been fulfilled in these nations. They are really plunged into greater darkness than was present under the dictators, because the Muslim power has taken new life and will spread. It is not the power of old dictators who ruled for years and would have inevitably stepped down. The Muslims are a young power, new and fresh on the scene, seeing these nations as new place of victory and triumph. They will be a rising force. (May 22nd, 2012)
Found this news for availability of "Mary of Nazareth" film for individual purchase which won't be available until October: The DVD will be available for general sale through Ignatius Press beginning October 15, 2014. Otherwise: The Mary of Nazareth DVD will be sold exclusively through the Parish Screening Program hosts from July 16 to October 14, 2014.
davidtlig Today at 12:43 PM "Egypt is now recognised as stable and anti-fundamentalist." If I may offer some further insights to the broader history.....In reality, no. An over night takeover by force and kept by force is not "stability" and does not a season make....as was seen in history by strong man Tito in the former Yugoslavia. After all the years of supposed "unification" by force, the immediate response to the new "freedom" without Tito was the Balkan wars with similar atrocities against the various types of "infidels" of old. In fact many would counter that a military regime with judgment over ALL religious activity is quite "fundamentalist" on its own. In fact..... the new document (Constitution) also gives unprecedented powers to Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's most respected religious school, by saying its scholars must be consulted on all matters relating to Sharia. The 1971 charter did not mention Al-Azhar. The military justified the banning of the Muslim Brotherhood as a way to stop the Islamicization of Egypt. But references to Islam as the religion of the state and to Sharia as a source of legislation, as seen in the 2012 constitution and under previous regimes, are still present in the new constitution. As long as Islam remains a significant feature of the state, Islamist parties will continue to present themselves as political alternatives to secular groups. It is therefore improbable to think that the Muslim Brotherhood in particular, and political Islam in general, will be eradicated. Despite such growing skepticism about its political agenda, the Muslim Brotherhood remains deeply embedded within the fabric of Egyptian society, and no military repression can crush sympathizers as easily as it crushes a political movement. There is little probability that Sisi’s military regime will. As it did in the past, a heavy-handed crackdown on the movement’s social networks would make them martyrs, inadvertently benefiting the group. (Jocelyne Cesari is a senior research fellow at the Berkley Center for Religion, Peace and World Affairs at Georgetown University; the director of the Islam in the West program at Harvard University; and the author of “The Awakening of Muslim Democracy: Religion, Modernity and the State.”) And somehow I can't see these statements/"messages" as being "vague and general"!: They are really plunged into greater darkness than was present under the dictators, because the Muslim power has taken new life and will spread. (ISIS anyone?) ISIS is a cousin of Hamas. Both organizations are outgrowths of the Muslim Brotherhood. ISIS has its eye on Egypt so simply dissolving the MB "as a recognized political party" means nothing in the long run. There are still local abuses going on without interference by the military. Again, the military is only interested in repressing large uprisings with their national chaos that had occurred previously. That is no condition for "stability" and a state for individual freedoms. Everyone is watched as a possible enemy of the military as well. Their crackdown on the strong man of the moment is simply sending a message for other types of similar attempts by any other groups. The Muslims are a young power, new and fresh on the scene, seeing these nations as new place of victory and triumph. They will be a rising force. (May 22nd, 2012)
kathyk, Your explanation helps, a thanksgiving prayer for creation and it goes up on behalf of all souls. The special moon was out this earlier this evening. When I see a full moon, I think of the Eucharist and thank God. I will remember it as a "round" next time. Loved your last words.
Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World": Lasting Light Upon The Darkness (cont'd) Aug. 7: 2. The Good Samaritan Aug. 8: 3. Putin As Satan's Instrument (Special locution) Aug. 9: 4. Avoiding the Annihilation of the Nations http://www.locutions.org/category/lasting-light-upon-the-darkness/
Where is the Blessed Mother's explanation for the wars the US has started? The bankers and the corruption that they bring? For our involvement in the overthrow of governments? Why did we kill Kadaffi? How is Libya doing now? Her seeming indifference to those in the middle east who call her mother (until just very recently) and her almost obsessing about those who have rejected her, the israeli's ? The raping of the Ukraine by the west? With all do respect to Msr Esseff, LTTW=false apparition
You are welcome to believe what you want picadillo. Those of us who have read every single message know that she has spoken widely on these topics. I'm not going to waste my time quoting the messages and going back and finding it all. You will have to if you are at all interested. She has spoken over and over again about the sins of the U.S. You seemed to have skipped those. Remember, all these wars and rumors of wars are a facade. A serious distraction while those in power gain more power while destroying life in all areas of the world and all levels of society. Creating descention and bitterness, death and destruction.
