The United States is on the freshhold of havimg new and very charismatic very new leaders for its next Presidential Elections as though from nowhere creating huge enthusiams..even amongst our Bishops but a sterile wind none with the blessing of God none none none
Padraig- an interesting set of posts... Which of the current crop of presidential hopefuls are you referring to specifically? None of them seems to be generating much support over here. The crop of Republican candidates is viewed as something of a joke, and the current president's approval numbers are quite low... Just curious. Seems that the 2012 election will be similar to the past couple over here- not so much a choice between the "lesser of two evils," as a choice between "the evil of two lessers." [BTW- that pun isn't mine, I read it in a newspaper during one of the Bush elections].
I think there are going to be more candidates comong forward and its them I meant. But by 'coincidence' I starting reading a prophetic American site {recommended by Terry and Gail and which appears to be true and quite amazing and which I,too recommend) which appears to be referring to the same thing: Cf: Electing a President Mary The holes are opening up in the American economy, gigantic gaps that no amount of money can fill in. American life is spiraling downward and out of control. No one can see how fast all of this will transpire. There is still an aura of unreality, as if this could never happen in America. O America, you will tumble and tumble, wondering when this downturn will bottom out. “When will we turn around?” you will ask. Who are your leaders? Whom have you elected? Did you not vote your wallets? Is it not always the economy that determines your choice? You have gotten the leadership that you deserve. These are the ones you have chosen, because you always vote by the wrong standards. You must hold your elected officials to higher standards. They must be good people, who protect the unborn and protect marriage. To you, these issues seem unimportant, as if they are on the sidelines. Yes, for you they do not matter. If Satan could fix your economy, you would elect him your president. This is my promise. If you place first what I place first and elect officials who hold my values, then your economy will turn around. However, if you continue to elect those who are unworthy but promise you economic blessings, your economy will continue to tumble. Look at the next elections in light of what I have just told you. Those who do not protect the unborn and who do not protect marriage cannot protect your money.Comment: This aptly describes the American voter who chooses those who promise prosperity.
Interesting thread. I think it is a little late for a new person to decide to run for the republican party. There are deadlines for getting your name on the ballet for each state, and some of the deadlines have passed. I suppose someone could run as an independent. I don't know the rules/deadlines around that. Having said that, I don't see any great, moral leaders currently in the mix right now. Having a pro-life and defender of the traditional family candidate actually pretty much eliminates many democrats (although not all). The republicans running are not that great, although both I believe are pro-life and defend the traditional family. I know Romney does (who is morman) and I'm not sure about Gingrich (Catholic, but has had a very, very checkered past...no one knows where his heart is now). Rick Santorum is very catholic but very low in the polls. When I first read Padraig's icons, I thought the great leader that would emerge would not be the president at the time. I immediately thought of Paul Ryan from Wisconsin. He's catholic and holds all the correct catholic views on social issues. I heard him interviewed on EWTN radio, and he knows his catholic faith and is able to defend his policy ideas as aligned with the catholic faith. He does not promise prosperity to all, but focuses on policies that creates the environment for all to have the opportunity for prosperity...the prosperity part is up to us. I think he might emerge as a great leader one day soon, and was disappointed he did not run for president. But he's pretty young and his kids are young, so he didn't want to put his family through a presidential run. I think Chris Christie has the potential to be a great leader as well. He too, is catholic. let's pray for the US. The economy is so bleak if you have been out of work for awhile. There is a very big stigma against hiring someone who has been out for a long time. It's very difficult. Padraig - can you post the website where you got the words from Mary from?
http://www.locutions.org/home-3/ ..and this seems like very good advice from Our Lady. I especially like the advice to 'purify your homes'. I love having holy water used frequently, picture, lighted of the sacred heart, statues of Our Lady with lighted candles..many pictures.and so on. I thik having a holy protected home in these times is so special..mine has so much its like a holy shop. :lol: I am specially pleased that God has brought forth a genuine ,authentic visionary...to comment on future events of course there was Maria Esperenza (but she was from Venezuala) and Mark Mallet 9but he is Canadian) I always wondered why God had not placed His hand on one of His native born American children and now it looks like He has done so, big time. Thank God and praise His name: Preparing for the Chastisement Mary A Chastisement of Mercy A time of great trial will come upon the world, a great distress of the nations. Many will die. Others will not know what to do. However, those who know me and know my words will have enough light to get through this period of darkness. The world will be purged by this extraordinary divine intervention. This is the purpose of the trial because the Father would not do this if he had any other choice. He cannot allow the world to go on as it is. If he did not intervene, as drastic as this is, life on earth would be even worse. Man would inflict on man unheard of sufferings as the weapons of mass destruction are released by those who are under the control of the evil one. So, what looks like divine chastisements are really acts of his mercy. God will purge the world before man destroys it. Comment: Mary says that God must act to cleanse the world and also to avoid greater suffering inflicted by man himself through nuclear arms. God’s Care for the Living and the Dead Those who live in light and believe my words will know this is true. Even in the worst moments, they will see God’s purposes and know what to do. Some will die but they will accept their deaths in a spirit of faith, knowing that they have used their lives to love and serve God. They will have no regrets and the Spirit will console their inner being. Others will be preserved from death by the Spirit so they can form the new Church that will arise, the light of the new mankind that will be fashioned by the Father. This will include people from all over the world. They will be people of faith, even if they did not believe before. They will have come to faith in the middle of the trials because of the signs in the heavens and the wonders upon earth. They will know that God has saved them and they will tell the story to their children and their children’s children. Comment: Both good and bad will die. God’s rain falls on the just and the unjust, but the Spirit will be able to console the good. He will also care for those who survive and have come to faith. A New Creation It will be like a new creation. Man will once more realize that he owes his existence to God’s choice. He will no longer say, “The earth is mine to do what I want”. Instead, he will say, “The earth belongs to God and I am the caretaker of his creation”. Man will once more stand in God’s presence and will rejoice in the title “Children of God”. Faith will be everywhere. Man will see clearly that all life comes from God. A new world will begin, “as it was in the beginning”. Man will still be free, still able to choose good and evil, but man will be so filled with light that good will be easily chosen and evil will be easily rejected. All of this can only take place after the world is purged. Comment: Seeing the final result of the purging gives hope and purpose. New Lights for People of Faith I say all this to prepare you for these events. Prepare, you must. Whoever is not prepared will perish from hopelessness and despair, devoid of all light and understanding. Satan will put out all the lights of the world, all that men hoped would save them. However, I will shine my light, new lights, extraordinary lights, seen only by people of faith, words heard only by those whom I have trained to listen. Let me explain. The heavenly Father wants to communicate with his children by the powers of the Holy Spirit. This Age of the Spirit has already begun but too few are aware, even in the Church. I have appeared to some and have made certain places sources of divine messages. These are a sign to all, but my plan goes much further. The Father will pour out the Spirit on all mankind and I am his messenger. Comment: The Father speaks to his children by the Holy Spirit. We must learn how the Spirit speaks and guides us. True Light – Extraordinary Yet Essential Two things must happen. All must be open to this new inner light and all must be aware of false lights. There will be extraordinary true lights and extraordinary false lights. I will raise up leaders in my Church who will know the true light by their own deep personal experiences and by their solid theology. They will point out the true light and will reject the false light. Follow them. Plunge into this true light for it will be the only light that you have in the darkness. Get used to the light and learn how it guides you. All of this is extraordinary but the darkness will be extraordinary. The deep personal light of the Holy Spirit guiding individuals and families will become essential Comment: God’s light will be new and, before the darkness, we must become familiar with it. Gathering in the Light You cannot be like the foolish virgins who believed that they could get oil for their lamps at the last minute. You cannot gain this new light when the darkness comes upon you. You must become a child of the light now. I say “now” because the Spirit’s light is available and he will train you in the light. You will learn to act in his light. You will also gather others, because many must walk in this light. You must gather. Gather in praise, exalting my Son, Jesus. This is the Spirit’s method to give light. Gather daily. Lift your hands in praise and the Spirit will descend upon you. Otherwise you will never learn his gifts or receive the light that I intend. Do not ask me to tell you when these trials will begin or to give you signs. Doing that is useless. Even with the clearest signs, people will not listen. My words are enough and they are clear. Why talk about some future sign when I have already told you to begin now. If you do not believe and if you do not start now, will you start in the future? Will some sign jolt you into belief? You will be jolted but not by my signs. My words are signs and I tell you clearly that this is the Age of the Holy Spirit. If you invoke him, he will give you personal signs, especially a unity with others. Comment: Mary tells us to invoke the Holy Spirit. Gather with others. Praise God in unison. Learn the charisms, how the Spirit reveals his words. Special signs are useless. Her instructions are enough. The Scattered Children Must Gather I sorrow over my children because they are scattered. Their little light cannot overcome the darkness and they cannot survive even now, before the great darkness comes. What will they be like when Satan puts out all the lights? When people invoke the Holy Spirit, he joins them together. They find a common voice of praise. They lift their hands to the Father. While they pour out their praise, the Spirit joins their hearts. They are no longer alone. They have others are their side. I will be with all of these little groups. They will be called Marian Gatherings of the Holy Spirit. Even if just three or four gather, this will be enough. I will teach them and they will learn together. This advice is very easy but this is how you will prepare for the darkness. Gather with others in a Marian Gathering of the Holy Spirit. Do not put this off. If you go and search, I promise that you will find others. Then you will discover my plan for you. You will rejoice and say, “Mary has provided me with others. Together we will prepare for the darkness. May I find you together when I come”. Comment: Mary’s advice is easy. Her children are too scattered. They must come together in a Marian Gathering of the Holy Spirit. They will be blessed as long as they stay together. A Clear Plan of Action What will you do when you gather? You will read my words. They will teach you. More important, you will give me your hearts as slaves of the Immaculate Heart as taught by St. Louis de Montfort. This is only the beginning. Let each one use their gift of the Spirit. Let each heart, touched by the Spirit, bring forth a word, a hymn, a revelation. Serve one another with the spiritual gifts. Do not wander into other concerns. The Spirit must do his work in you and you must learn his ways. Enough for now. I have given you a clear plan. Begin to act. Comment: You are told what to do in these gatherings. Read Mary’s words. Consecrate yourself to Mary in True Devotion. Use the Spirit’s gifts. Learn the Spirit’s ways. Do this right now. Family Preparations Different structures must be built. Tiny structures which can multiply and be present everywhere. These structures will survive. They can be built right now. Whose authority do you need to gather in your home? Whose blessing must you seek for family prayer? I give you my authority and my blessing. Begin now, before it is too late. Gather your children into the Marian Gatherings of the Holy Spirit. Since this is where everything must begin, I will speak to the parents. Comment: Mary wants these groups to start immediately. The easiest place is in the home. Anxieties of Parents How anxious you are. You have brought your children into the world, but now you see, only dimly, the great questions about the future of the human race. What will be the future of your children who have so many years ahead (years when you will not be with them)? Even now, fear covers you. You can see all the problems on the horizon. When you hold them in your arms, do you not ask, “What is in store for them? How will I keep them safe?” These questions must lead you into action. Follow the safe path which I offer to you. Comment: The future problems can be seen on the horizon. Loving parents inevitably suffer from anxiety. Mary will provide a plan of action. Four Pieces of Advice First, you must believe that I will keep you and your family safe, but only in my Immaculate Heart. That is why the heavenly Father wants to establish devotion to my Immaculate Heart. Do not follow any other path. This is the sure, the easy and the short road. You will never arrive by any other means. Second, you must give me your heart so I can purify it of all its sinful desires. Third, you must bring to me all the members of your family so I can purify their hearts. There is no salvation without purification. Fourth, you must gather together in my heart. This is not optional. I can only bless those who gather. I can seek the scattered sheep but only so that I can gather them with the others. A scattered sheep is a lost sheep until it learns to stay with the flock. Comment: These four pieces of advice are basic. They must be fulfilled for Mary to give greater help. More Advice Now I must go deeper. My words are true treasures that come from my heart. First, read God’s word. Take it to heart. Love that word. Let it be a light for your path. Let the word live in your family. Live by the word. Study it. Memorize it. Too many Catholics are ignorant of the word. I pondered the word that I was taught at the synagogue. You, too, must ponder it. Second, purify your home. Remove whatever I would not want to be there. Make it a Marian home. Clean out the secret recesses. Let nothing unclean enter your home. I will bless a purified home. I cannot bless a home which tolerates sin. Now, let us go still deeper. I want love among the family members and peace in their relationships. I want truth to reign, together with honesty and purity. I want family meals and time for the children. I will make all of this possible if only you have faith in me and allow me to act. I ask only good will and a willingness to begin again when you have failed. Any home which does this, I will bless and I will make it a light for others. When the darkness comes, these lights that you and I have set in place will not go out. Comment: These are perfect guidelines. Each parent will be touched by different sentences. Each command also carries some promise of Mary’s help to implement it.
This will be interesting and something to watch out for. Too bad though, none apperently will be in God's corner. Below is an interesting message from the locutions web site. I don't think any political leader will recommend what our Mother is recommending to do to save the economy. The Surprising Door to Economic Recovery Mary Everyone is in confusion. All are running around to find a solution but the seeds have been sown for too long. These are seeds of waste and extravagance, an America which has been out of control for decades. O America, how could this have happened to you whom I have blessed from the beginning? You took my title away from your largest river. (The Mississippi was originally called the River of the Immaculate Conception.) Now, you further strip yourself of your religious clothing. Well, continue. Continue your secular course and I will have you stand naked before the nations, an economic laughing stock. You have put aside your traditions. You have set aside the accounting procedures that made you a model for the world. You are no longer a model. You are a scandal and you are about to take the whole world down with you in your economic collapse. You will not listen to those who would strengthen you. You are sick and you refuse to take your medicine. You refuse to see how deep is your illness. You talk of recovery, an economic turn around. There will be no recovery because you lie to yourself. A true recovery is based on truth. You hide the reality and your people want to be lied to. Leaders and people, you are tied together by unhealthy bonds, the profligacy of your lifestyles, the unchecked spending and the lack of any discipline. You have had it all for so many decades. Now you will surrender nothing. No need to surrender. It will all be taken away from you by your creditors. They will close your doors and shut down your excesses. Must it come to this? Is there no solution? I can offer you solutions, but you will not listen. I can point out a road, but you will not follow. Still, I must try. I cannot give up on America, the nation I have taken as my own. I give you another chance because you have been generous in the past. This is also your future hope. To save your economy, turn your eyes abroad. See the starving of the world and feed them as you have never fed them before. As your food enters the stomachs of the world’s hungry, then my economic blessings will flow into your financial systems. That is my promise. The hungry of the world are the doors to your economic recovery. http://www.locutions.org/2011/07/the-surprising-door-to-economic-recovery/
Interesting article suggesting that perhaps Jeb Bush or Sarah Palin mey yet run for president...http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/12/palin_jeb_bush_mulling_presidential_options.html
The Pope has warned that radical secularism is a rel threat to freedom in the USA ADDRESS OF HIS HOLINESS BENEDICT XVI TO THE BISHOPS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ON THEIR "AD LIMINA" VISIT Consistory Hall Thursday, 19 January 2012 Dear Brother Bishops, I greet all of you with fraternal affection and I pray that this pilgrimage of spiritual renewal and deepened communion will confirm you in faith and commitment to your task as Pastors of the Church in the United States of America. As you know, it is my intention in the course of this year to reflect with you on some of the spiritual and cultural challenges of the new evangelization. One of the most memorable aspects of my Pastoral Visit to the United States was the opportunity it afforded me to reflect on America’s historical experience of religious freedom, and specifically the relationship between religion and culture. At the heart of every culture, whether perceived or not, is a consensus about the nature of reality and the moral good, and thus about the conditions for human flourishing. In America, that consensus, as enshrined in your nation’s founding documents, was grounded in a worldview shaped not only by faith but a commitment to certain ethical principles deriving from nature and nature’s God. Today that consensus has eroded significantly in the face of powerful new cultural currents which are not only directly opposed to core moral teachings of the Judeo-Christian tradition, but increasingly hostile to Christianity as such. For her part, the Church in the United States is called, in season and out of season, to proclaim a Gospel which not only proposes unchanging moral truths but proposes them precisely as the key to human happiness and social prospering (cf. Gaudium et Spes, 10). To the extent that some current cultural trends contain elements that would curtail the proclamation of these truths, whether constricting it within the limits of a merely scientific rationality, or suppressing it in the name of political power or majority rule, they represent a threat not just to Christian faith, but also to humanity itself and to the deepest truth about our being and ultimate vocation, our relationship to God. When a culture attempts to suppress the dimension of ultimate mystery, and to close the doors to transcendent truth, it inevitably becomes impoverished and falls prey, as the late Pope John Paul II so clearly saw, to reductionist and totalitarian readings of the human person and the nature of society. With her long tradition of respect for the right relationship between faith and reason, the Church has a critical role to play in countering cultural currents which, on the basis of an extreme individualism, seek to promote notions of freedom detached from moral truth. Our tradition does not speak from blind faith, but from a rational perspective which links our commitment to building an authentically just, humane and prosperous society to our ultimate assurance that the cosmos is possessed of an inner logic accessible to human reasoning. The Church’s defense of a moral reasoning based on the natural law is grounded on her conviction that this law is not a threat to our freedom, but rather a “language” which enables us to understand ourselves and the truth of our being, and so to shape a more just and humane world. She thus proposes her moral teaching as a message not of constraint but of liberation, and as the basis for building a secure future. The Church’s witness, then, is of its nature public: she seeks to convince by proposing rational arguments in the public square. The legitimate separation of Church and State cannot be taken to mean that the Church must be silent on certain issues, nor that the State may choose not to engage, or be engaged by, the voices of committed believers in determining the values which will shape the future of the nation. In the light of these considerations, it is imperative that the entire Catholic community in the United States come to realize the grave threats to the Church’s public moral witness presented by a radical secularism which finds increasing expression in the political and cultural spheres. The seriousness of these threats needs to be clearly appreciated at every level of ecclesial life. Of particular concern are certain attempts being made to limit that most cherished of American freedoms, the freedom of religion. Many of you have pointed out that concerted efforts have been made to deny the right of conscientious objection on the part of Catholic individuals and institutions with regard to cooperation in intrinsically evil practices. Others have spoken to me of a worrying tendency to reduce religious freedom to mere freedom of worship without guarantees of respect for freedom of conscience. Here once more we see the need for an engaged, articulate and well-formed Catholic laity endowed with a strong critical sense vis-à-vis the dominant culture and with the courage to counter a reductive secularism which would delegitimize the Church’s participation in public debate about the issues which are determining the future of American society. The preparation of committed lay leaders and the presentation of a convincing articulation of the Christian vision of man and society remain a primary task of the Church in your country; as essential components of the new evangelization, these concerns must shape the vision and goals of catechetical programs at every level. In this regard, I would mention with appreciation your efforts to maintain contacts with Catholics involved in political life and to help them understand their personal responsibility to offer public witness to their faith, especially with regard to the great moral issues of our time: respect for God’s gift of life, the protection of human dignity and the promotion of authentic human rights. As the Council noted, and I wished to reiterate during my Pastoral Visit, respect for the just autonomy of the secular sphere must also take into consideration the truth that there is no realm of worldly affairs which can be withdrawn from the Creator and his dominion (cf. Gaudium et Spes, 36). There can be no doubt that a more consistent witness on the part of America’s Catholics to their deepest convictions would make a major contribution to the renewal of society as a whole. Dear Brother Bishops, in these brief remarks I have wished to touch upon some of the pressing issues which you face in your service to the Gospel and their significance for the evangelization of American culture. No one who looks at these issues realistically can ignore the genuine difficulties which the Church encounters at the present moment. Yet in faith we can take heart from the growing awareness of the need to preserve a civil order clearly rooted in the Judeo-Christian tradition, as well as from the promise offered by a new generation of Catholics whose experience and convictions will have a decisive role in renewing the Church’s presence and witness in American society. The hope which these “signs of the times” give us is itself a reason to renew our efforts to mobilize the intellectual and moral resources of the entire Catholic community in the service of the evangelization of American culture and the building of the civilization of love. With great affection I commend all of you, and the flock entrusted to your care, to the prayers of Mary, Mother of Hope, and cordially impart my Apostolic Blessing as a pledge of grace and peace in Jesus Christ our Lord.
There is starting to be more talk of a "brokered convention" for the Republican nominee if none of the existing candidates can win a majority of delegates. The Super Tuesday of primary votes is March 6 this year. The overall picture should be much clearer then. After that date, it may allow candidates waiting in the wings to come forward and seek nomination at the convention later this summer through horse trading rather than state-wide caucuses. Stay tuned...
Just as Satan brings forth leaders who serve him, God is bringing forward leaders to serve Himself, like this wonderful Muslim person; Lady Warsi: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/feb/14/vatican-lady-warsi-intolerant-secularisation?newsfeed=true
http://theweek.com/article/index/224407/brokered-conventions-a-guide-to-political-pundits-dream-scenario
] This news item out of Arizona is huge because it was released by an affiliate of CBS, a mainstream news outlet that has always previously shielded President Obama. Lord have mercy! Safe in the Flames of the Sacred Heart!
Notice the section, Terry where he says: 'The winds is about to blow off the President's hat....' 06:26 'Things that were done in the darkness are about to be brought to light.....' I have to add thsi proviso though ,we must not confuse our own political preferences to prophecy the Holy Spirit is neither a Republican, Democrat or memebr of the tea party (at least as far as I know :wink: :wink: :lol: ..something folks like Michael Voris should maybe pay attention to :lol: )
