What is coming and how to prepare

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by The Cub, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. The Cub

    The Cub New Member

    None of it. You linked to an article saying that it says in the Bible that the Antichrist will lead the EU and then the UN. I told you that I stopped reading at that stage because there is no mention of either the EU or the UN in the Bible.

    This a a matter of private revelation. Indeed, we are told to "despise not prophecy, etc." as I pointed out. Further I added that the matter is discussed at length in the writing at the link in the OP, which you chose not to read.

    In response to that you made the silly reference to there being no mention of the Trinity in the Bible.
    There is nothing silly about it. While the term, "The Tribulation" may not appear in Holy Scripture, per se...the matter is addressed within Scripture and Tradition, anyway.

    Your inference was that since the Magisterium, guided by the Holy Spirit and protected from error by the promise of Jesus, has discerned and taught that God is three persons in one despite the word Trinity not appearing in the Bible, anyone reading the Bible has equal authority to determine that it clearly references the EU and UN despite neither organisation being named in any biblical passage.

    That is not true. You have chosen to read too much into my statements.

    As Catholics we are allowed, even encouraged, to pray to the Holy Spirit for His gift of Divine discernment and roam the Scriptures and Tradition interpreting as we are inspired.......SUBJECT TO......ALWAYS......ALWAYS.....ALWAYS, SUBJECT TO THE TEACHINGS OF HOLY MOTHER CHURCH. ( I am not yelling here, merely emphasizing a truth.). It is the Church who is the pillar and bulwark of truth (1 Tm 3:15). It is the Church to whom Jesus said "He who hears you hears Me." (Lk 10:16). We are to obey the Church in all matters. (Mt 18:15-18)

    However, that does NOT preclude our praying to the Holy Spirit for His gift of Divine discernment and reading Scripture and Tradition on our own. We are not to use our human intellects, which are imperfect; but to rely upon the divine gift of discernment from the Holy Spirit, which is perfect ---- once again ....ALWAYS SUBJECT TO THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH ON ANY GIVEN MATER. Now, the Holy Spirit may have a particular message to convey to any given reader of a passage at that moment.

    What the good Fr. Joseph is saying in post #5.....exactly what he is saying.....that is, the Church has not rendered many definitive decisions with respect to the end of time.


    Fr. Joseph Dwight summarized the position of the Church on the End Times best when he stated:

    “The Catholic Church says relatively little about future events leading up to Christ’s Second Coming. Many of her teachings are rejections (either implicit or explicit), not affirmations, of particular beliefs such as the dispensational dichotomy between the Church and Israel, the [Pre-tribulational] Rapture, and [the reigning of Jesus in the flesh upon the Earth for 1,000 years (Millenarianism)]. What she does teach is quite clear, as well as succinct: there will be a Second Coming, a time of trial which the Church must endure, an Antichrist, a conversion of [Jews] to Christ, a definitive judgment of all people, and the fulfillment of the Kingdom that has already begun in the Church. Within those parameters, Catholics may freely roam, search the Scriptures, and seek to better understand the Word of God.


    Your attention is directed to the words of Cardinal Ratzinger on the Era of Peace when he was head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of Faith.:
    Especially significant are the words of Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in this regard. Theologian Martino Penasa, presented him with this question of Christ's spiritual millenary reign (not millenarianism), and the Cardinal reassured him that the matter is still open to discussion and that "the Holy See has not yet made any definite pronouncement in this regard."


    http://www.call2holiness.org/EraofPeace/EraofPeace.htm



    I won't be engaging in any further discussions with you no matter how many times you twist yourself inside out telling us that you aren't really embracing the notion that the Bible can mean anything the reader wants it to mean provided the reader is you or someone you agree with.

    That is not what I said. I would suggest that you reread my posts for clarity of the matter.

    For all we know, the Antichrist could come from the Organisation of African States or some institution that won't exist until long after the EU and UN are nothing but a page in history.

    In the writing at the link in the OP, you will find details about what has been commonly referred to "the Revived Roman Empire" (Dn 2:33-34 & 2:41-44). You will also, find the teachings of St. Cyril of Jerusalem on the matter there an at the following link:

    "But this aforesaid Antichrist is to come when the times of the Roman empire shall have been fulfilled, and the end of the world is now drawing near. There shall rise up together ten kings of the Romans, reigning in different parts perhaps, but all about the same time; and after these an eleventh, the Antichrist, who by his magical craft shall seize upon the Roman power; and of the kings who reigned before him, three he shall humble, and the remaining seven he shall keep in subjection to himself. At first indeed he will put on a show of mildness (as though he were a learned and discreet person), and of soberness and benevolence: and by the lying signs and wonders of his magical deceit having beguiled the Jews, as though he were the expected Christ, he shall afterwards be characterized by all kinds of crimes of inhumanity and lawlessness, so as to outdo all unrighteous and ungodly men who have gone before him displaying against all men, but especially against us Christians, a spirit murderous and most cruel, merciless and crafty. And after perpetrating such things for three years and six months only, he shall be destroyed by the glorious second advent from heaven of the only-begotten Son of God, our Lord and Savior Jesus, the true Christ, who shall slay Antichrist with the breath of His mouth, and shall deliver him over to the fire of hell.". (St. Cyril, Archbishop of Jerusalem and Father of the Church; Lecture XV; 315-386 A.D.).

    How to Identify the Antichrist

    www.call2holiness.org/Antichrist/HowtoIdentifytheAntichrist.htm

    We have been told through certain private prophecy (yet to be approved) that the Antichrist will seize control of the EU. Our Lady of LaSalette (approved) stated that "Rome will loose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.".

    Once again, these matters are discussed in detail in the writing at the Link in the OP.

    Now, indeed private prophecy lies outside of the Deposit of Faith, which is why I made the OP to "Marian Apparitions" on this forum.



    Jesus founded a Church. When that Church tells me that the Antichrist is the leader of the EU, UN, the Boy Scouts or the local rowing club, I will pay attention. Until then, no matter how many people you quote to support your claim, it's only guesswork and not very convincing guesswork at that.

    Ok. "Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal 4:16)

    They will be herding up Christians and taking them to the FEMA camps long before the Church rules on the matter.
     
  2. Within latest translated message to Luz de Maria:

    This generation is constantly corrupting itself and is surrendering to madness.

    THE ANTICHRIST HAS PREPARED THE CURRENT SCENARIO IN WHICH HUMANITY IS LIVING, AND HUMANITY HAS ACCEPTED IT...

    My children's personality is no longer their own, but has been conformed to the majority, with a man emerging who has no thought of his own other than that inherited by the rest of society. A man has arisen who imitates his fellow men, who does not reason but only imitates others' behavior. [so true]

    .......
    A group of men and women with economic power have decided that you, My People, should remain ignorant of the true reality, with the goal of manipulating you. You are not unaware of this: I have explained it to you, but you do not stop to think and take measures in this regard.

    My people, this generation is aberrant, degenerate, it rejoices in what is illicit and in what reduces its status as a child of God: you worship the god of money, the god of technology, the god of modernism, the god of degeneration ...
    ........
    I see more sinners than in Sodom and Gomorrah. You will not stop before sinning, however gravely that may be; the whole instant you will promote new ways of offending Our Most Holy Trinity. And in the end, the good will be seen as evil and evil will be welcomed with great pleasure.
    .....
    Evolution for today's man depends on technology, knowing that technology has dominated him, has caused him to be its slave and has chained him - not with physical chains, but with chains that have robbed him of his mind, thought, will, capacity for decision, intelligence; and I see zombies wandering on Earth... My People have become a People without will.
    ........
    My People find themselves more alone, My Church on Earth will suffer for her mistakes, schism will come. Evil has a field day with the contamination in sectors of My Church, creating scandal and more scandal.

    YOU, MY CHILDREN, PREPARE PROPERLY, REPENT OF OFFENSES COMMITTED.
    ..........

    My people, in the midst of the apparent quiet preceding the Warning (1), men continue to go further and further astray. Children, you will examine yourselves, the very depths of your souls will be shaken, human conscience will be known for the first time by some of My children.

    All will see the offenses they have committed against the Divine Law, and with an iron rod, they will live through the particular judgment from which not even a single person will be able to escape. Everyone will remain in the personal desert of their sins, they will not be able to help one another. After this, My faithful will be more faithful and those who do not love Me will love me less. PERSECUTION TOWARDS MY FAITHFUL WILL INCREASE AND THE GREAT DECEIVER WILL TELL HUMANITY THAT THIS ACT OF MERCY FROM MY HOUSE, THE WARNING, WAS CREATED BY HIM.

    During this personal examination, the Creation will be shaken, the Universe will remind man that human offenses have managed to draw heavenly bodies towards Earth. The Earth's atmosphere will be tinged with fire, and with this fire the Earth will burn.
    .........
    I WILL NOT DENY YOU PROTECTION IF HUMILITY AND PURPOSE OFAMENDMENT ARE GENUINE.

    DISCOVER THAT YOU ARE LIVING, NO LONGER BE SLAVES OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT DOMINATES YOU.
    .........

    Pray My children, pray, the sea is strongly stirred up due to the proximity of a celestial body.
     
  3. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    Not sure where to post this but sounded to me like an essential insight to prepare and navigate the current Storm:

    "The devil knows he has lost the soul that perseveringly practices mental prayer." (St. Teresa of Avila)
     
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  4. The Cub

    The Cub New Member

    Covert FEMA Camp Roundup drills in Florida - 2015
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3l-AP571d4

    Untold Truth About FEMA Death Camps (Part Two) - They Look Like Jails - Gas Chambers Are For Whom?
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQJn0fmA9i8

    FEMA camp coffins (up to 3 to the coffin)
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI

    America Races Towards Marshall Law
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/era-of-peace/conversations/messages/464
    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/era-of-peace/conversations/messages/465


    How to Avoid the New World Order:

    Prayers of Consecration and The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary
    www.call2holiness.org/consecration/prayers.html

    To The Refuges On Wings of Eagles
    www.call2holiness.org/RefugesonWings/RefugesonWings.htm

    Detailed discussion......
    http://www.call2holiness.org/iniquity.htm


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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Untold Truth About FEMA Death Camps (Part Two) - They Look Like Jails - Gas Chambers Are For Whom?
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQJn0fmA9i8
    [/QUOTE]

    Cub,

    Hi. It's been a while since you've been visiting. I hope all is well. Although the above clip was posted to Youtube this year, I would like to mention that the clip is apparently about 20 years old. I watched to it and noticed a model car that is pre-2000. Also, about the 2:00 minute mark, reference is made to the period 1993-1996.

    My points are not made to derail your opinion of FEMA camps, but to suggest, rather, that a presentation based on 20 year old videos are not helpful in supporting your position as up-to-date.

    Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
     
  6. The Cub

    The Cub New Member

    Thanks, Mario.

    You are referring to one of the 4 posts above. Yes, one is dated. I chose it because it is one of the most famous....and because it is quite extensive in its coverage. It also allowed me the time saving ability to post without viewing multiple videos for content.....that is, I was familiar with its content without spending time (which I do not have) viewing multiple videos to find one to post.

    I fail to see how that impairs the case that the FEMA camps and a plan for US Martial Law exists. The truth may be inconvenient, but a dated video does not make it go away.

    Did you read the links to one on Marshall [sic] Law, and the links contained therein?

    If the one video disturbs you due to its age.....you may choose from the many available:
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fema+camps


    Here is the US Army's manual: INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS from 2010
    http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf

    Here is one from 2001:
    MILITARY POLICE INTERNMENT/RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-19-40/

    US ARMY publication on CIVIL DISTURBANCES from 2014:
    https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-CivilDisturbances-2014.pdf

    US Army publcation on Civil Disturbances from 2005:
    https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-FM3-19-15.pdf

    US Dept. of DEFENSE, DIRECTIVE - 2012
    http://twt-media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2014/05/28/ring-document.pdf

    US Army: Request to Conduct Realistic Military Training (RMT)JADE Helm 15 from 2015
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/258605525/Jade-Helm-Martial-Law-WW3-Prep-Document-1

    (NB: There is also one on UWEX 16....I will let you conduct your own search....the acronym stands for UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE EXERCISE (Practice exercise for Martial Law in US - 2016)


    Here are letters from the Army to US Congressmen in 1997 confirming the program.
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/con2.jpg
    https://www.prisonplanet.com/con__1.jpg

    Jesse Ventura TV Program on FEMA Camps





    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

    and much mote......
     
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  7. Marie Dean

    Marie Dean New Member

     
  8. Marie Dean

    Marie Dean New Member

    Talks above are by Father Wolf of the fssp, not Father Ripperger who I know personally
     
  9. Marie Dean

    Marie Dean New Member

    Talks above are by Fr. Wolf of the fssp, not Fr. Ripperger, who I know personally and I am a member of his third order.
     
  10. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Thank you for letting me know. I think that my error stems from the fact that both priests sermons can be found under the youtube title of Sensus Fidelium.
    I think it may be Father Wolfe with an "e" at the end. Here is a link to many of his sermons. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaEUCyXgZOLzehV8OQ9uUtPf4o_7S33An

    and another link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnyNZocvdGA5oHFAJnmWo8CwchthEzsYq

    The following is a link to many of Father Ripperger's sermons:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/onearmsteve4192/search?query=father+ripperger
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    If half this information is true, it is enough to concern anyone who enjoys freedom. When people who runs these in the various government agencies cannot answer questions on billions of dollars being used to build centers to keep people locked up along with 100's of thousands of coffins, which could be used as prisons to keep not for those committing felonies, but for those who may have a religion that is contrary to the new world order then it should be concerning. When whatever comes to collapse our societies is here this is one of the things that may well be be well known, even for honest good citizens.
     
  12. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I wonder who's going to man all these death camps? I know a whole lot of US servicemen and I can say without hesitation not a single one of them would ever remotely consider such a thing.

    Not that it isn't a possibility, I mean we did inter every Japanese soul during WWII so it could happen again. However, thinking that the people of the US, the most heavily armed people on the planet, (we have more guns than people!) born of a nation birthed in revolution are going to be rounded up and shipped to death camps is a pipe dream of the highest order.
     
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  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The world as we know it will have to change dramatically, as it will. Either through a global currency crash, global nuclear war, major plagues or significant solar event, all which seem highly probable along with the great apostasy, which all are in motion as we speak. This will make the average man, not in the state of grace, become evil by stealing/killing or whatever it takes for survival. This period and these camps will be most convenient for the minions of the Antichrist to house their enemies who still serve God to live out their tortures etc......
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Don
    There are many many souls out there who are cold as ice
    They could be the ones sworn in and deputized to do almost anything
    I am keeping the thought in the back of my mind that these "camps" might exist and have future use
    However
    I hold on to the thought that the Lord is preparing refuges for His faithful
    Btw
    I have been in the vicinity recently of a few souls that are cold as ice
    I could just feel the hate
    So they are out there
    Btw one of them was a young policeman
    His work partner was warm and human
    I could tell the difference
     
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  15. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Cub,

    Anyone who wants to dismiss FEMA camps out-of-hand and not research it more deeply, would use "out-of-date" material as a convenient excuse. Personally, I believe in their existence and thank you for the reminders.:)

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
  16. Shae

    Shae Powers

    I don't post often, but I really look forward to reading the posts on this forum each day, however, I was very disappointed today to see this language from Macadamia:(
     
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  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    It remains to be seen how the future will turn out
    We know there will be great difficulties at times
    Maybe not in our lifetimes
    In the US there have been wilderness military training exercises which have raised many questions
    So I keep my rigid mind open :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    I truly would not be surprised at what has been funded and planned by the NWO
     
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  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    There is always a few of Satans puppets that slip through the cracks, but sure as St Michael kicked Satan and his minions sinful butts out of heaven these puppets of his on this forum will will get their sick butts off this forum!
     
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  19. cornhusker

    cornhusker Angels

    :(


     
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  20. Tanker

    Tanker Powers

    I don't usually see profanity on these forums :(

    :(

    I'm not a fema camp proponent but we did lock away the Japanese Americans in WWII, not a shining beacon of our history.
     

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