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Discussion in 'Positive Critique' started by padraig, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    From: Padraig Caughey <padraigcaughey@hotmail.com>
    Sent: 29 September 2018 15:10
    To: info@zenit.org
    Subject: Re: It’s a privilege for all

    I prefer listening to Real Catholics who have not been involved in the cover up of sexual predators and abusers like Cardinal McCarrick and are loyal to the perennial teachings of the Church.



    Which if course the present Holy Father is guilty off. I am astonished you continue to use this guy as a poster boy. Nothing could be more off putting.

    So no dough from me.




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    From: info@zenit.org <info@zenit.org>
    Sent: 29 September 2018 13:00
    To: padraigcaughey@hotmail.com
    Subject: It’s a privilege for all

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  2. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Yeah..... it's a privilege to pray for him, but not listen to him. Listening to him leaves me confused, discombobulated, and unsure of what is right and wrong. Satanic. Best not to listen to him.
     
  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Best not to send any dough either to folks who promote him. I would rather send money to promote Kim un-Jong, if I had to choose between the two. I know where I stand with him, he is what it says on the front of the tin. Anyway I think he is a much nicer person and never met Cardinal McCarrick or had anything to do with him, his entire life..

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  4. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Listening to him leaves me angry, too. Just saying. I am a simple clerk at a Walmart, who's not even in the Church yet, who never gets to read much of anything, yet for some reason, my theology is better than his. That is a mystery. The mystery of iniquity. A stupid and simple, sinful, tired, irritable store clerk is a better theologian than the Pope. That is messed up.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well a good example of concern is this. He gave a homily on Jesus being Lost in the Temple and He said Jesus was wrong in geting lost and had to beg forgivenss. This is simply unscriptural and crazy.

    This is just crazy. Anyone who meditated on this mystery for any real length of time at all would know this. He just missed the entire point.

    http://www.catholicstand.com/does-the-pope-really-think-jesus-sinned/

    'At the end of that pilgrimage [to Jerusalem, when Christ was twelve], Jesus returned to Nazareth and was obedient to his parents (cf. Lk 2:51). This image also contains a beautiful teaching about our families. A pilgrimage does not end when we arrive at our destination, but when we return home and resume our everyday lives, putting into practice the spiritual fruits of our experience. We know what Jesus did on that occasion. Instead of returning home with his family, he stayed in Jerusalem, in the Temple, causing great distress to Mary and Joseph who were unable to find him. For this little ‘escapade,’ Jesus probably had to beg forgiveness of his parents. The Gospel doesn’t say this, but I believe that we can presume it.'

    Jesus sinned. Crazy
     
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  6. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Totally. That's the messed up part. The man was raised in and by the Church, receives the Sacraments, went to seminary, is the Pope, is in the best city in the world to learn about and absorb Catholicism, has lots of time to read and study and pray, and he comes up with things that are so totally wrong most Protestants can (and do) immediately spot the weirdness, irreverence, and off-ness of his conclusions. It's kind of incredible.
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    This offended me then and it offends me now.
     
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  8. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I think a lot of people go to Rome these days and lose their faith rather than gain it. Other than that I agree completely. Great place to visit, wouldn't want to hang out there very long to be quite honest.
     
  9. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Michael Voris had a good Vortex on the "Catholic" media that is beholden to the hierarchy. Not a bad thing in good times, but a very bad things when those in charge are corrupt.

     
  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I noticed Michael Voris mentioning EWTN in this context before. He looses me here. I always found EWTN to be wonderful .Raymond Arroyo particularly in , 'World Over'.

    I think evetns in the Church tend to be like someone playing with a ball. Some are far behind the ball , some are right on the ball and some prophetically are well ahead of the ball. I always thought Raymond Arroyo is right on the ball as events unfold.

    I sense he could say a lot more than he does but he is using prudence; which is no bad thing.

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  11. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

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  12. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Agreed. EWTN has always been wise and charitable in critiquing / questioning the Holy Father, but they still ask questions, which is good. Prudence is wise. Especially as we're still in the middle of an unfolding event, and as EWTN brings the Church to the world, in many senses. It would confuse a lot of prospective converts to watch a panel cruelly mock the Vicar of Christ or something.
     
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  13. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Thank you, Blizzard. I am certainly foolish and weak! Need to work on pride, too. Maybe that, too, is a blessing. Being nothing in the eyes of the world. Keeps one able to see, hear, know, and trust. If it weren't for Mary, I know I'd be milling around on my own, kinda up in the air, doing my own thing, uncertain of many things. Mary is awesome. I can see why the Church praises her so highly, and loves her!
     
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  14. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    I certainly never meant to call you "foolish". I think the quote means "things that are foolish and weak in the eyes of the world". Think of how God used, for example, the Fatima children, or Bernadette of Lourdes, or the Garabandal seers, or Joan of Arc!!!
     
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  15. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I agree. Raymond Arroyo is doing very important work bringing this news to the masses while not alienating them. I don't know why Michael Voris lumped EWTN in with the others but in any case they are all doing important work reaching different groups of people. Voris is just very fiery and probably wishes everyone else was, but we are not all made the same and we are made for different tasks and audiences.
     
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  16. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I don't think Blizzard meant to call you foolish at all Gracia as he mentioned, but I have to say what an incredibly humble response from you! It was inspiring. If I felt someone was calling me that I most likely would not have responded in such a manner. It reminds me of the response some of the saints would have given! St. John Vianney comes to mind.
     
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  17. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    No, I hear you! It's true, though. I make the same incredibly stupid mistakes over and over. Hopeless optimism! "This time it'll fit through the hallway! This time is different!" :D Thank you, though, I also need to hear that, too.

    I think of all of the MOG posters as hidden, tiny Saints, mystics, and prophets. It's kind of flipping incredible. How good God has been to us, and how much we are allowed to see and know.
     
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  18. David Healy

    David Healy St Pio Son

    St Benedict fled Rome in the 4th century due to what he saw there, in order to preserve his faith and not fall into grave sin. So sadly there has been wickedness, evil, worldliness, vice and sin in the eternal city for a long time.
     
  19. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    You should have seen me at work yesterday when none of the freight got unloaded by first shift. Blew up at a lady just trying to offer me a home made brownie. "I do NOT have time for this, I got five carts of boxes sittin' back there!!!" Poor thing still gave me one. Bless her.
     
  20. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Thank you, though, Pret! That gives me hope!
     
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