The Conclave

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by BrianK, Apr 28, 2025.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    I sincerely hope you are wrong. We are all suffering Francis fatigue and we badly need to believe he is the real deal. Let's give him some time please.
     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    It won't be pretty if they are revealed.
     
  3. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

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  4. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Interesting. I'm willing to bet that Trump will be meeting with Pope Leo soon.
     
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  5. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Yes Trump already indicated that. At least there is not a language barrier. Ha!NY meets Chicago. Melania is Catholic. Trumps have money. Let’s make a deal…it would be very interesting. And the Pope is a missionary. And the Vatican is broke. Makes for a good book.

     
  6. AED

    AED Powers

    LOL.
     
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  7. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    Something tells me the Vatican may never be the same. :rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
     
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  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Not only was Cardinal Pell unjustly jailed, in the most outrageous manner, his death seems to have been very unsuspected and suspicious. If the Church keeps asking for funds for what seems to be the promotion of DEI (in contradiction to Saint Paul) and sodomy, they will soon have to start looking elsewhere.
     
  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    In fairness, Brian is advocating cautious diligence, based on concrete outcome.
     
  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Israel is gearing up for a massive escalation of its genocide. If this goes ahead, I don't know how Trump can be compared to a 'Great Monarch'. According to the prophecies, the Great Monarch is specified as French. There is no mention of the United States, whatever. If that implies a withdrawal by the US to isolationism, that would be laudable. But most wars in the last thirty years or so have been caused by the United States tail being wagged by the Israeli dogs of war. The Ukraine war, in which the Jew Zelensky seems the most unrelenting character, is arguably about the protection of Larry Fink's interests. For some reason, Donald Trump's great plans for 'peace' here seem entirely unsuccessful. Or bogus.

    However this Pope turns out, I am not going to discern him in any way in relation to any worldly prince, who always turn out to have feet of clay.
     
  11. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Israel won't do a thing without the US, especially if the US has already made deals.

    I understand the prophecy, but it sure doesn't seem to be playing out with a French King.
     
  12. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Of course, I hope you're right. Unfortunately, my perception is increasingly inclined to believe that the US does not do a thing without Israel.

    As regards the prophecy, these are all conditional, but I see no reason whatsoever to interpret the Great Monarch as an American/Zionist president. It would be more prudent to dismiss the prophecy.
     
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  13. Pax Prima

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    I totally get that, but the trajectory seems to have changed. Also, a trade deal was brokered between the US and Ukraine which I don't see happening unless some kind of peace deal is going down. I think there are a lot of layers to all of this. As I mentioned before, I think Israel is controlling both sides of the war in Gaza. Support Palestine and you look bad, support Israel and you look bad.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It's complicated, but I certainly support the remaining Palestinian Christians.
     
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  15. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    100%

    Unfortunately in this big web of tangled evil the cabal has created there are casualties of war. I absolutely hate it with all my heart. Thankfully it appears to be in the process of being dismantled. Yesterday a trade deal with the UK was made by the US and it appears everything is coming into the light. One more power structure taken down, city of London is a big deal.
     
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  16. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    If the theory that Trump had a hidden role in the conclave is true, I will never consider it a positive thing—especially because, in light of this, it's almost inevitable to imagine what could happen if the Democratic Party returns to power three years from now. Trying to convince someone that the papacy is generally the result of political maneuvering is a rather effective way to promote atheism. I'm sorry, but in a way, I regret having read about this, because it opened a Pandora’s box in my mind regarding the unexpected speed of this conclave.
     
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  17. Pax Prima

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    It happened, it is obvious. JD Vance leaving and the Pope dying the next day (Easter Sunday). "Oh my blood pressure, oh I fainted" (did Parolin realize he was done for?). The Trump Pope meme. Followed by an American Pope. Followed by rumors about Vatican debts. Conclave vote being leaked to JHW (yes we heard everything you Cardinals talked about, lol).

    It also isn't without historical precedent, many monarchs exerted power over the papacy throughout the centuries. I am happy someone saved it. I also don't see Democrats ever coming back into power.

    My guess is that the Vatican was entirely infested and needed outside help.
     
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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I hope with all my heart that you are right and that Donald Trump is in the process of wrongfooting the Zionists. That was my original impression, but events have greatly called this into question.

    I still consider that a right and proper Pope Leo and Donald Trump can agree to disagree on numerous prudential issues, but in the circumstance that you outline, they would obviously be of one heart, in the case of poor Palestine. May God bring Peace to His Holy Land..
     
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  19. FiliMariae

    FiliMariae Archangels

    Trump isn’t the Great Monarch, come on now…
     
  20. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Yes, some emperors historically had the power of veto, but the Church, as a self-regulating organism, later prohibited this practice. The greater problem for the faith arises when the orthodoxy of belief seems to be tied to a political agenda; this makes everything appear false and superficial. In the case of the Democratic Party’s “Catholic Spring,” it only served to strengthen our faith in light of the prophetic fulfillment of the Fatima apostasy. Trump is not someone who generates consensus among the many good Catholics we have here, and I have serious doubts that the Democratic Party won’t return to power in the next elections. Robert Prevost is young enough to witness at least one change of power in the U.S.
     
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