Papa Leo XIV

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  1. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Thankfully, we have Cardinal Mueller. His Eminence has spoken about these things:

    https://katholisches.info/2025/09/1...siert-homo-spektakel-bei-der-heiligen-pforte/

    Cardinal Mueller, a defender of the Catholic faith, headed the Congregation of Faith until 2017, when he was fired by Pope Francis for no good reason. As I recall to have read, the audience lasted all but 2 minutes, and when Cardinal Mueller asked about the reason for his dismissal, Francis replied: "Because I am the Pope."

    Per the above link, Cardinal Mueller confirmed: "Homosexual acts are mortal sin, and that's why one has to stand up against this policy where some march through the Holy Door for reasons of propaganda for themselves, not to do penance or change their lives".

    Regarding the document fiducia supplicans that was issued by Pope Francis, Cardinal Mueller said: "According to the book of Genesis, God has blessed marriage between man and woman - one cannot bless sin." Cardinal Mueller underlined that fiducia supplicans is not a binding document of the Magisterium of the Holy Catholic Church, but merely of pastoral nature.

    His Eminence said that we must correct the misunderstanding that the Church has blessed homosexual behaviour. Further, Cardinal Mueller said that such behaviour is not something that we can bless, that we can call the blessings of God upon.

    Regarding the synod on synodality and the contemplated ordination of women, Cardinal Mueller said: "Some think the Church is like a political party that can change its program according to the taste of the world. But we are a religion based on (divine) revelation, and in this revelation, the seven sacraments are contained. The question of access to the sacrament of priesthood with its three steps, Bishop, Priest, Deacon, is already decided. It is a dogmatic question, and no Pope can change a dogma of the Church."

    Hinting to the practices of Pope Francis, Cardinal Mueller also spoke to Pope Leo, and said: "I (Cardinal Mueller) come from dogmatic theology. No Pope can dismiss a Bishop without a canonical trial. Each Pope has his own personality, but we must not introduce political categories".

    I think it is great to have Cardinal Mueller as a strong defender of the teachings and practices of the Holy Catholic Church. I seem him as a hero, fighting the good fight, even after Pope Francis attempted to humiliate him.
     
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  2. PurpleFlower

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    I don't get the impression that he wants to change Church teachings, after reading his complete answers in the interview. I think it's important to go to the source and read it, because small pieces are taken out, out of their larger context, and put into articles that are meant to stir up outrage.

    I think that Pope Leo's main focus right now is trying to bring people together, to avoid "polarizing" factions of people and instead have everyone feel heard and welcomed by the Church...not for their sinful identities, but just for being God's children that need to come back into the Fold.

    It fills me with mixed feelings. I much prefer straight-talking Truth, clarity and passion for Christ and the Faith. But at the same time I have to be honest with myself when I think of my approach with fallen-away Catholics in my own family. I learned years ago that constantly trying to speak Truth to them only pushed them further away. I learned to instead lead by example and just love them and pray for them. God's grace is what brought them back, not my hammering the Truth into them. I think that this is where Pope Leo is coming from. He wants to love people back into the Church.

    At the same time, our prelates have a responsibility to teach us the Faith clearly, and to not compromise with evil, as they will have to give an account for our souls. What a careful line they must walk. We all feel this to a certain extent with our fallen-away loved ones, don't we? So we can understand the pope's struggle. But we also need him to be a strong father and lead us to the Truth. We keep getting disappointed in that regard.

    Prayer, prayer, prayer is the answer. More prayer by Pope Leo, more prayer FOR Pope Leo, and more prayer for our very divided and fallen world.
     
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  3. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Yes, you are so right! And may your word be in God's ear, as we say in German. God bless!
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    This is what the Papa Leo actually said as regards sexual morality; it lasts about five minutes:

     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Matthew 5:37

    All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ anything beyond this comes from the evil one.


    What did he actually say? Well he said Church Teaching would not change at the moment because it might cause a schism if he tried to do so. However he said that it might change in the future if people could be pushed to swallow such an abomination. But that for the time being he is kind of stuck with sticking with teaching the truth because too many people would kick up if he went for change.

    In other words that he is not upholding the Truth of Church Teachings because they are of God but because it would be too unpopular to do otherwise. The implication being that the Teachings which he (and the Church) presently hold in these matters are not immutable truths but subject to consensus. In other words if it looks in the future like people are open to swallow such an abomination(s) an abomination(s) they will get.

    If people are comfortable with this, well I pray for your poor, confused, wandering, souls. For myself hearing this awful stuff feels like climbing into a very deep sewer and being showered with five minutes of non stop filth.

    May God have mercy on us all. It just makes me feel totally sick to my stomach, what a swamp we have fallen into. What a total, evil, stinking swamp.

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  6. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I totally understand your feelings, but that's a lot of words and motives you just attributed to the pope that you DON'T KNOW. That's slander.

    This pope seems to me to be your typical novus ordo prelate who errs on the side of mercy and love and takes it too far. Perhaps there's also some worry in there. Perhaps he's seen some prophecies that indicate there will be horrific times of people slaughtering each other like in Rwanda because of the growing polarization and hatred in their hearts, and he's going about trying to placate everyone and bring them together to try to avoid this...but forgetting that no true brotherly love will be achieved without Truth and a real love for Christ and His teachings.

    I get the anger, I do, but also I don't see people calling for priests to stand at the doors of the churches and not let contraception-practicing Catholics in. I mean, that would be 90% of us at least, not welcome in the Catholic Church.

    I sure don't like his wishy-washy language trying to keep everyone happy by not firmly stating Church doctrine will NEVER change. He's kicking the can down the road because he doesn't want to be a "polarizing" pope. But I truly don't believe that he wants to change Church doctrine.
     
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  7. PurpleFlower

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    I hate that we get so up in arms over other people not being told clearly enough that they're sinning. Maybe with that same passion we should instead be whipping ourselves for our own sins.

    Maybe we should be wearing sackcloth and ashes in repentance for letting our Church fall to the level it has.
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I want a Pope to be a Pope and to say that Church Teachings on Sexual Morality simply cannot change and why it cannot change. To stand up for the Faith he professes. Is that too much to ask? How hard can it be?

    If that makes me inflexible, intolerant, a slanderer, bad tempered or a hypocrite so be it.

    By the way you don't seem to be extending too much, 'Mercy and love', in my direction, do you?
     
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  9. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    This is a fascinating statement from Maria Esperanza. The City of London has much more control of banking, countries, and geopolitics than is commonly known. The Rothschilds, who control the City of London created Israel. They both seem to be malevolent players in the world at this time.

    Do you know a source for this statement of Maria's?
     
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  10. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    The danger of NOT using one's reason is the risk of following heretics into grave sin. In our time a grave sin of that sort might be attending an invalid Mass with an invalid consecration. Or maybe it will be a sin not to stand up or speak out against immoral or heretical statement or actions by our Church leaders.
    In the US, I wonder if we have been sinful for not speaking out against Catholic Charities which has been fully supported by our bishops while illegally trafficking women and children into the US. It seems like another evil for which we'll be punished as over 300,000 of those trafficked children have not been found. Many were not with a parent or relative. Like the Jews who refused to follow Jesus because, well, their leaders condemned him, we don't want to confront our own bishops because it would be uncomfortable.
    Many believe a US pope was elected because USAID funding --the money source for Catholic Charities--was shut down when Trump came into office. The US Catholic Church and the Vatican were getting more money from this source than from collections. So they need to make up for that lack of funding.
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Is easy to follow Jesus when self interest is not involved. It only becomes a problem for many people when they have to suffer for their beliefs.

    I have to say I have noticed a sudden downswing in objective critique from Trad Catholics since the possibility of having their cake and eating it was held out by the Vatican. A sudden onslaught of winding of necks in. One very prominent Trad commentator even suggested that there should be no more critique of Papa Leo . The Trad Liturgy is great, but it is not the be all and end all.

    This is why Papa Leo is a thousand times more dangerous than Papa Frankie ever was. Clearly a very determined group of high ranking clergy has sat back and tried to put forward a strategy to push forward their hell bound agenda and part of this is to pay off or bribe Trad Catholics. Or put simply to bribe them. This is the cause of the sudden deathly silence from many trad voices who spoke out so loudly before.

    When we are been offered by Papa Leo is Christ without the Cross. A False Church in Union with the World.

    A clear abomination.

    I more and more thinking of the prophesy from Our Lady at La Salette about , 'Two worm ridden Popes. ' Now guess who they may be?

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  12. DeGaulle

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    I think, on the face of it, it is even more 'rogue' and therefore far more dangerous.

    He has spoken of the conditions required to 'change doctrine'. But Doctrine is revealed absolute Truth. That is what it means. Absolute Truth is Immutable. It is not logical to even consider the possibility of its change. Unlike his predecessor, the present pope is a very educated man, whose first language is English. He cannot be unaware of the meaning of his words.

    It is a good (and providential?) thing that Saint John Henry Newman has been elevated to the honour of Doctor of The Church. The sodomites controlling The Church might think they will be able to abuse Doctor Newman's wise words on 'development' of doctrine in some sleight-of-hand trick to change it, but I would be hopeful that this is a case of their narcissism and arrogance leading them to deceive themselves. Truth is of no comfort to untruth and the words of Newman will prove their undoing.
     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The priest's lesson from the reading at the Mass I assisted today was 'money is the root of all evil'.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    All the Latin and lace in the world alone won't get you into Heaven.

    One can make an idol of anything. Even liturgy. Christ didn't say the Words of Consecration in Latin.

    God's Revelation takes precedence over man's liturgy.

    Queens proudly preening in fancy vestments in their rainbow colours and spouting Latin is a vision of Hell. The ultimate mockery, pretending to praise God with outer show, like whited sepulchres, while being putrifying, corrupt corpses in their hearts. God save us from this.
     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes exactly. I used to attend a certain Trad Church and all the time of Papa Frankies Global Church shut down and all the other evil things he got up to they never said a word about it from the pulpits. Why not? Well if they had they would have been shut down for good at warp speed. So they kept quiet although they knew as well as I did perfectly clearly that it was a very great evil.

    One person might take this as simple prudence. But it never sat well with me.

    I believe with Papa Leo this time round we are seeing the same thing in spades. If they keep quiet they get to get what they want. So once again the big silence. But this time a super silence. Like I say I want the Trad Liturgy as much as anyone, but not at that price.
     
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  16. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I want the exact same thing you do.

    I believe we have gotten the last couple popes we've gotten, plus the terrible state the Church has been in for many years, as a punishment for our sins. When I punish my children, what I hope to see from them is humility and asking forgiveness, and working to make up for what they did. For instance, if my children have messed the house all up, I want to see them cleaning it up. But sometimes what happens is immediate pointing of fingers, complaining about what the others did to mess the house up, and complaining in general about the mess that's before them. Sometimes it can turn into an argument that gets everyone pretty heated. Except my daughter, who will quietly clean up because she wants to make me happy.

    Sometimes I feel like we're the children who are being punished by our Father, and instead of looking at our own faults that helped lead to this, and putting in the prayer and sacrifice needed to atone, we stand around angrily complaining about the punishment and accusing the agents of the punishment (however little they realize they're part of the punishment). This weak pope is a product of our culture. He has good intentions but is so much like the rest of the majority of lax Catholics because for at least a century, we individual Catholics have been compromising with the world. It is very easy to point fingers and accuse the Church leaders of compromising with evil, but can't we see that we have done the same thing?

    It doesn't mean we shouldn't speak clearly with love about the truth, like in this case, being sure to assure our fellow Catholics and the world that Church doctrine cannot change, but shouldn't we judge the pope in the way we hope to be judged ourselves...with mercy, given the benefit of the doubt, not assuming that every bad thing done means we're the devil incarnate?

    When Our Lady came to Kibeho, thousands of Catholics from the region flocked to her--good Mass-going Catholics praying and singing, doing the things she asked--and yet a mere handful of years later, those very same people brutally slaughtered their neighbors, men, women, and children. How could they do something like that? Mary said it was because even though they had been good Catholics on the outside, they had allowed hatred to grow in their hearts.

    This is a huge lesson for us, especially since Mary said what happened in Rwanda would happen to the rest of the world if we didn't convert and change our hearts. We shouldn't hear this and immediately think, oh, well we're doomed then, because looking around, I see so many sinful people not converting, and evil Church leaders sinking the ship... The response I think Our Lady is hoping for, is that we immediately look at our own heart and think, oh, wow, it's true, I have so much in my heart that needs to change...so much pride, and lack of love...

    I truly believe that if we laity did this, and atoned for our sins and those of our neighbor (our neighbor includes our pope and prelates), our Church would be converted and transformed once again into being a bastion of Truth, bringing glory to God.

    I probably sound a bit like a broken record on this forum, but I really love everyone here and try to do my part to inspire us to rise above the same anger, division and finger-pointing we find in the secular world. Because really our war is with the powers of darkness, not with our own pope, or other weak, sinful Catholics, and those powers of darkness make their way into our own hearts as well, where they can do so much damage while we think we're being righteous. So I warn myself constantly and I voice the same thoughts here.
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The major problem at the minute is that most, the vast majority of Catholics are Catholic in name only and are easily led. They will be quite happy to be led to the slaughterhouse of hell by the false shepherds who currently lead them.

    There is no harm at all to shouting out a warning to the poor folks the millions and millions of them being led at a very fast rate to the Eternal Flames. If only one turns back that will still be a great blessing.
     
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  18. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    I think both views are legitimate. PF focusing on what we can do, prayer and penance and Padraig warning us on a false direction. Our church is filled with compromise. Generally when we look around at Catholic families we see just 1 maybe 2 children. Contraception is wholesale and the church allows Catholic Pre Marriage courses to discuss and promote contraception by chemical or whatever means one wishes to use. I am reading Maria Valtorta at the moment and any practice to block conception is called out by Jesus as a serious sin not to mention abortion. Where is this preached. Nowhere!!
     
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