Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. miker

    miker Powers

    I asked ChatGPT to provide summary of the calendar and timelines in general and then where we might be.

    Please as always be careful with this/ it is AI !

    Prophetic Calendar (per Dupont & sources)
    1. Proximate Signs (Before the Chastisement)
    • Duration: Indefinite (could be decades).

    • Signs:
      • Widespread loss of faith, heresy, apostasy, moral corruption.

      • Political turmoil, civil strife, economic collapse, revolutions.

      • Persecution of clergy and religious; confusion in the Church, possible schism or anti-pope.

      • Natural disturbances: floods, earthquakes, unusual weather, comet or celestial phenomena.
    • Key marker: "When everything seems lost, events accelerate."
    2. The Minor Chastisement / Global Upheaval
    • Duration: ~3–4 years (most mystics).

    • Events:
      • Wars & revolutions:
        • Civil wars in France and Italy; Europe descends into chaos.

        • Communist uprisings in Europe; Muslims invade from the south.

        • England suffers greatly; Rome attacked, Pope flees.
      • Church persecution:
        • Pope in exile, possibly killed.

        • Anti-pope enthroned in Rome.
      • Natural disasters:
        • Earthquakes, floods, droughts, epidemics.

        • “Fire from the sky” — comet, meteor, or celestial chastisement.
      • Death toll: Two-thirds to three-quarters of humanity perish.
    3. The Warning & the Miracle
    • Duration: One-time supernatural events.

    • The Warning:
      • Every soul sees its sins as God sees them (a “mini-judgment”).

      • Happens worldwide, simultaneously.
    • The Miracle:
      • A cross of light appears in the sky (esp. in Rome and Garabandal in Spain).

      • Timed to a Church feast day; meant to confirm the Warning and call to conversion.
    4. The Three Days of Darkness
    • Duration: 3 days, worldwide.

    • Events:
      • Complete darkness over the earth.

      • Demons visibly roam, killing the impious.

      • Natural disasters intensify: earthquakes, storms, cosmic fire.

      • Only blessed candles give light.

      • Survivors are purified remnant of humanity.
    5. The Great Catholic Monarch & Holy Pope
    • Duration: Their reigns overlap, lasting ~20–30 years.

    • The Monarch:
      • A king of royal blood (French lineage), rises after chaos.

      • Unites Europe under Catholic rule, defeats Communism & Islam.

      • Reconquers the Holy Land.
    • The Pope:
      • A saintly reformer elected miraculously (sometimes called “the Angelic Pastor”).

      • Restores discipline, unity, and tradition.
    • Outcome:
      • The world converts to Catholicism: Russia, China, Muslims.

      • Unprecedented peace, prosperity, flourishing of culture and faith.
    6. Period of Peace
    • Duration: 20–30 years (sometimes described as a full generation).

    • Characteristics:
      • Unity of Christians, worldwide Catholic faith.

      • Abundant harvests, economic stability, population recovery.

      • Great saints arise; the Church shines in holiness.
    7. Rise of Antichrist (Major Chastisement)
    • Timing: After the peace.

    • Events:
      • Antichrist, a brilliant and deceptive leader, rises in the East (many sources say Jewish by blood, raised in secrecy).

      • Gains worldwide power through flattery, miracles, and deception.

      • Persecutes the faithful brutally; many apostasize.

      • His reign lasts ~3.5 years (42 months).
    8. End of the World
    • Events:
      • Antichrist defeated supernaturally (St. Michael, or Christ Himself).

      • Final apostasy and persecution end.

      • Christ returns in glory.

      • General Resurrection & Last Judgment.

      • New Heaven and New Earth.


    ⏳ Condensed Timeline with Approximate Durations
    1. Proximate Signs → decades of decline & turmoil.

    2. Minor Chastisement → ~3–4 years of war, persecution, disasters.

    3. Warning & Miracle → short, supernatural interventions.

    4. Three Days of Darkness → 3 days, purging of evil.

    5. Great Monarch & Holy Pope → ~20–30 years of reign.

    6. Era of Peace → ~20–30 years.

    7. Antichrist’s Reign → 3.5 years.

    8. Second Coming & End → Final Judgment.


      Where we might be today (2025)
      1. Proximate Signs (before the chastisement)
      Dupont described this stage as loss of faith + social upheaval.
      • Faith & morality:
        • Declining church attendance and belief in the West.

        • Widespread secularization, gender and family redefinition, moral confusion.

        • Division within the Catholic Church (synod controversies, “schism talk,” liturgical battles).
      • Politics & society:
        • Polarization, civil unrest, riots, breakdown of trust in institutions.

        • Rise of authoritarian or nationalist movements worldwide.

        • Global instability — wars in Ukraine, Middle East, tensions in Taiwan, instability in Africa.
      • Natural signs:
        • Unusual weather extremes, fires, floods, earthquakes, pandemics.

        • Near-Earth objects and comet activity increasingly tracked by NASA (Dupont saw “fire from the sky” as a prophetic motif).
      Assessment: This looks very much like Dupont’s “proximate signs” period.

      2. Minor Chastisement (not yet begun)
      This would mean global war, Church persecution, and natural disasters killing a large portion of humanity.
      • While conflicts exist (Ukraine, Israel/Gaza, terrorism), they have not escalated into a worldwide collapse.

      • The Pope is still in Rome, and while criticized, he has not been exiled or replaced by an anti-pope.

      • Disasters and pandemics have been serious, but not on the catastrophic scale (2/3 humanity perishing) described in prophecy.
      Assessment: We don’t appear to be in the “Minor Chastisement” yet.

      3. Warning, Miracle, and Three Days of Darkness
      • These are supernatural signs that Dupont emphasizes as unmistakable.

      • Since nothing like this has happened, we are clearly before these stages.
      4. Great Monarch & Holy Pope
      • No figure today resembles the Great Monarch or Holy Pope described in prophecy.
      5. Era of Peace → Antichrist → End
      • These come only after the chastisement and great purification.

      • We are not there yet.
      ️ What this suggests
      If Dupont’s sequence is taken seriously, today looks like the late “proximate signs” period — a world full of unrest, disbelief, and instability, but before the massive chastisement and supernatural interventions.

      This is consistent with how many modern Catholic commentators interpret prophecy: we are in a prelude, not the event itself.

      ⚖️ Important note:
      Catholic teaching (Catechism §67) says: Private revelations help us live the Gospel in our time, but they are not required for faith. Dupont’s timeline may inspire watchfulness, but it should not create fear.
     
  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    For the record, Dupont is very clear on the nature and status of private revelation as opposed to the public revelation that was completed with the death of the last Apostle. But, he points out that it should not be lightly dismissed and notes that the Rosary and the Sacred Heart Devotion are both the result of private revelations.
     
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  3. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    The only problem with those early signs is you can say they are happening now. But if I took you to 1987 would there be many who would have said the same thing then? Probably. Don't get me wrong, I think we all feel it. We all feel something is coming at the tipping point. But where in the cycle are you? Most places
     
  4. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    In what sense would the election of the angelic pope take place in a miraculous way? He would not come from the College of Cardinals, as Padraig believes, if I am not mistaken?
     
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  5. miker

    miker Powers

    I think it would mean not at a usual conclave in Rome. And since it is "miraculous" I would say there would be an actual sign from God on whom He has chosen. Just my pondering...
     
  6. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I apologize, I didn’t clarify that point properly in my previous message – the hospitals are being prepared for 250 civilian casualties per day, excluding military ones by French source. That doesn’t make sense, because in Ukraine, which had around 40 million people before the war, the number of civilian casualties is significantly lower than in Gaza – so far around 13,500 civilians have died there, and even those numbers are probably inflated.

    Russia is strategically destroying NATO equipment – warehouses are literally being emptied, and there’s already a serious shortage of weapons stockpiled by all member states, with reserves being rapidly depleted.

    If there were any announcement of going to war with Russia, EU cities could erupt in protests and unrest. The Russians definitely won’t be moving towards Europe, and the idea that Europeans would go to the Eastern front is even less realistic. Europe is more likely to end up in internal chaos than to get modern people to willingly go there – whether it's the right-wing, which is generally anti-war, or the liberal camp, which, even though they support this Western war effort, would never actually want to participate in it themselves.


    It makes no sense for the French and Italians, who are very far from the front line, to be preparing any hospitals for civilian war casualties.




     
  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    With most of Europe's current leaders, there is very little that makes sense. They seem, on the face of it, to crave the blood of their own people. It's difficult to see anything rational behind it, unless they are attracted to the possibility of self-aggrandisement consequent upon the conquest of the vast resources of Russia...but this attempted conquest has already led to a humiliating defeat for them, which they stubbornly refuse to admit. Perhaps, it is their pride that is blinding them.
     
  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    As I said in one of my posts above, when I read Dupont's book some years ago I dismissed it, as the moment seemed to have passed with the fall of the Soviet Union-Dupont himself wrote the book in the context that he perceived that the attack would come from the USSR. He interpreted the Soviets as the source of communism and that the Muslim invasion would be an external one. Now, we find ourselves in a situation that Russia is resurgent and the communism is coming from within, and in a form even more egregious than the Soviet version. Nor could he have imagined that the Muslim invasion would turn out to be one that we invited upon ourselves. Dupont was a great reader of the signs of his times, but even he couldn't contemplate the stupidity and wickedness that the future ruling classes of Europe would come to display.
     
  9. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    I feel something huge is to come, God always warns His faithful. How I've always been able to gauge the sign of the times has been my domestic Church, my family & those I encounter. The resistance to repent & convert. I believe God will come in hard, how else will He get ppl to repent & convert now?

    A Christian friend & I were talking & she asked why I thought ppl were anti-Christ. I said it's spiritual rebellion & disobedience. Ppl do what feels good to them. God isn't going to force anyone to love Him, we have to want our own conversion. So it's simply, spiritual rebellion against God & His Kingdom. Since nowadays ppl don't even think sin or evil exist, there's no punishment or consequences when we commit evil. When God said His wrath would fall upon the disobedient.

    I pray so hard for the conversion of sinners, that God will illuminate their conscience, but it's so frustrating. The majority of us aren't teenagers or even young ppl figuring out the world. These ppl can't say they don't see the face of God when they commit mortal sin?? It's rebellion against our Creator. The penny should've dropped long ago with Covid.

    I do understand if agnostics or atheists are trying to figure things, if God exists. But for the fallen away Christians, I think there's more of a rebellion there, they would've been exposed to God & Christianity. I know it would be hard for them if they didn't have the greatest example of God thru ppl either...
     
  10. miker

    miker Powers

    I think St Paul provides good warning in 2 Thessalonians;


    2:1 About the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, brothers, and our being gathered to him:

    2:2 please do not be too easily thrown into confusion or alarmed by any manifestation of the Spirit or any statement or any letter claiming to come from us, suggesting that the Day of the Lord has already arrived.

    2:3 Never let anyone deceive you in any way. It cannot happen until the Great Revolt has taken place and there has appeared the wicked One, the lost One,

    2:4 the Enemy, who raises himself above every so-called God or object of worship to enthrone himself in God's sanctuary and flaunts the claim that he is God.

    2:5 Surely you remember my telling you about this when I was with you?

    2:6 And you know, too, what is still holding him back from appearing before his appointed time.

    2:7 The mystery of wickedness is already at work, but let him who is restraining it once be removed,

    2:8 and the wicked One will appear openly. The Lord will destroy him with the breath of his mouth and will annihilate him with his glorious appearance at his coming.

    2:9 But the coming of the wicked One will be marked by Satan being at work in all kinds of counterfeit miracles and signs and wonders,

    2:10 and every wicked deception aimed at those who are on the way to destruction because they would not accept the love of the truth and so be saved.

    2:11 And therefore God sends on them a power that deludes people so that they believe what is false,

    2:12 and so that those who do not believe the truth and take their pleasure in wickedness may all be condemned.
     
  11. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    AMEN!
     
  12. miker

    miker Powers

    Intersting commentary from Spiritdaily today....

    https://spiritdailyblog.com/commentary/has-it-started
     
  13. AED

    AED Powers

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  16. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Wow!! Thanks for posting, it clarifies so much!
     
  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

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  19. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    I have read this before. It explains so much because I've been wondering why the more I pray for my family's & ppl's conversion the worst they are getting. Both my parents are getting worse with their addictions etc. A guy I spoke with doesn't acknowledge sin or evil.

    So, it's because they won't accept the Truth & be saved, so God sends them a delusion - this makes sense, no one can get thru to them. Hopefully, they'll choose the Truth at The Warning, but even then it's a scary time to accept the Truth. I personally, wouldn't want that. I just want God, I don't want any deception, I don't want purgatory or hell. :( I certainly wouldn't want that for anyone but we're wrestling ppl's free will, which God gave to them...
     
  20. AED

    AED Powers

    Britain is falling into shadow. Sauron has taken over. The people have no voice. They better discover Our Lady and start praying the Rosary. Only she can help them.
     

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