Pope Francis did not always act in accordance with canon law. The same with Pope Leo XIV. Not just this, but there is litany of times where the two have not acted in accordance with canon law. As well, there are many teachings where they have taught/acted oppositely to the deposit of faith. A simple AI search will do for both Popes. Anyone who has been paying attention since March of 2013 will not even attempt to refute this. Again, criticism isn't always detraction. There are times where it actually becomes our duty to make criticisms known. Some might take it too far, in that they don't necessarily have evidence to call someone an antichrist. But at the same time, when there has been a litany of abuses against the faith, all of which are aligned with the globalists, it isn't surprising that people jump to this conclusion. I have asked many questions in this thread in regards to this, none of which anyone has answered. The only way is The Way. God has given us His only Son as the means of our salvation. When prelates teach the faithful to act contrary to the commands of God it is in fact a form of anti-christ. It also leads souls to hell. Which is why people are speaking up, it's not some sort of desire to take down the Pope. Which is being implied. Those criticizing the Pope have zero interest in doing so for the most part. Suggesting that this is the case is unjust, especially since many who do so have sacrificed themselves by being cancelled in the process. If a prelate creates a condition which is contrary to the faith and they get called out on it, this is just. There is no way around this.
Well, the Lefebvrist sector and the Vetus Ordo in the US. Both for different but equally sad reasons. The way the Church operates in Germany is very different from how it operates in the United States of America or in Spain, France, and Italy. Money flows differently. The Spanish, French, or Italian Church is poor. I think the Irish one too. The German church is like a cooperative with monthly dues, and pastors in the USA are looking for a wealthy flock. Those pastors are the ones who criticize the Vatican the most. They want to create an elite group of parishioners.
In fact the criticism came from all spectrums of view in the Church. Novus Ordo and Trad. Not only Americans but from all over the World. Cardinals, Bishops, Priests and layfolk. It was not a faction it was a cry from the heart from everywhere in the Universal Church. About all kinds of grave, terrible evils that were and are being perpetrated on the poor Faithful. Such as the entire African Hierarchy rejecting the blessing of Sodomite couples...and under Leo they are still at it. Still at this abomination.
Sure, for example: For over 2,000 years there has been no dogma of faith regarding the Virgin Mary as co-redemptrix, but yesterday the Pope reiterated it and a global controversy has already erupted. I don't think you realize what you're doing.
In the Vatican, there are still very devout and well-prepared people. Including Pope Leo. A highly educated person, fluent in several languages and holding advanced degrees—including a doctorate in mathematics—so I assure you he knows exactly what he’s doing. The Pope is respected and loved by 95% of the Church, but as always happens, an elitist faction disagrees. That’s how it works. We can see it in society and in the world. There’s always an elite that wants to govern. The Vatican has already announced it publicly. They aren’t worried about the faction demanding changes (the German Church) because it could provoke a schism akin to Protestantism, but it’s not in their interest to take that fatal leap. The concern is about the vetus ordo sector in the USA because it is elitist. If the Antichrist is on his way, he will arrive thru a Pharisaical elite. Thru those who consider themselves “better” than others. The purest, the most demanding, and the most critical. Those who appear whitewashed on the outside. We’re seeing it around the world. An elite wants to subjugate us, so we must be cautious and try to understand this “game”’s strategy as a whole, and not fall into the trap they’re setting for us.
'The Pope is respected and loved by 95% of the Church, but as always happens, an elitist faction disagrees.' How do you know that Leo is, respected by 95% of the Church? How did you arrive at this figure of 95%? Can you point me to the source of your statistical evidence for this figure? How are people who happen to ask questions, 'Elitist? 'The Vatican has already announced it publicly. They aren’t worried about the faction demanding changes (the German Church) because it could provoke a schism akin to Protestantism, but it’s not in their interest to take that fatal leap.' I agree with you they are , 'Not worried'. But why then are they not taking action against them. If someone breaks into my house and is wrecking it should I not only be worried but actually be taking radical action against them. If the Antichrist is on his way, he will arrive thru a Pharisaical elite. Thru those who consider themselves “better” than others. The purest, the most demanding, and the most critical. Those who appear whitewashed on the outside. But aren't the Modernist heretics who currently rule the Church exactly that ,a pharisaical elite who are erecting a false Church and on the inside are Sodomite heretics.
Trying to debate with someone who claims nothing is wrong with Leo and the Vatican at the moment and actually praises them is a bit like driving of a cliff with someone who assures me everything will turn out fine before we hit the ground, that we will actually get to our destination quicker by flying through the air. But I have a great concern about all this. How could any Catholic who is a person of prayer be so blind and deceived like this ? I am beginning to suspect a plant. Someone who is simply here to spread the most horrendous, lying nonsense.
There was a time way back when Papa Frankie was elected when I might have had patience with folks who were blind to the very great evil going on in the Vatican. But a lot of foul water has gone under the bridge since then.. I have little patience with people supporting all this filth now. Anyone who comes out and suggests things are fine I can only suggest is coming from a very,very dark and bad place.
You failed to answer virtually any of the questions I asked you. This shows bad Faith. You acknowledge the wickedness going on in Germany. But you do not explain why the Vatican is doing nothing to stop it. Again bad Faith. When and where did I state that only men elect Popes? This is a detraction and a slander. Please point to where I said this or apologise
Its in the nature of a discussion forum to answer questions rather than respond with ad hominen attacks.
I see you’re a very important person who needs to have everything you want answered. I see you are starting to turn to personal insults rather than answers, a sure sign of someone who has no answers to give. Homosexuals are sinners, and Christ came to call sinners, not to judge them. That’s why the attitude of welcome. Judge the sin , not the sinner. The problem is that the Vatican has ceased to Judge the sin. You don’t believe the Pope is God’s design because you continually criticize him To suggest that there is and was no such thing as bad and evil Popes is illogical to the point of insanity. Of course there have been bad Popes, look at your history books. God grants the grace to the Cardinal Electors it is up to themselves what they do with them. In any other case, it would be even worse, because you know it and yet you still defame him. You write that you have a problem with people judging Sodomites but you have no such problem in Judging me, God having, apparently given you the mystical gift of reading my soul . Thus the Judgement.
I don't think so. We are all sinners in one way or another. The Church accepts everyone. And as for the insult, you define yourself with your own words. I don’t need to say anything. The Church that is yet to come will be one that has nothing to lose. A Church like that of Saint Francis of Assisi. That Church will be indomitable because it won’t mind losing its life on earth to gain life in heaven. It will then be that the fire of the Holy Spirit will inflame it. Perhaps it will happen after the Garabandal Warning. That is my hope and my joy.
The Church accepts everyone. The Church should accept sinners not sin. Still no answers . Still with the insults. Changing the topic is not an answer, it is a deflection. You have no answers. Just an endless series of rambling, illogical, disconnected, never ending, insulting rants.
The Church does not accept sin because it is contrary to the commandments of God’s law, but it accepts sinners. I hope that’s clear to you. I'm really sorry you don't understand me in other ways, because I try to explain myself as best I can. Do you have any other questions?
What's the point when you only answer the very, very few questions you distantly feel you might be able to answer and ignore the rest Rant on, don't let me put you off.
Among all sinners, Christ spoke to us about those who sin against the Holy Spirit. Those will not be forgiven. Then, on the list of notorious sinners, he placed the Pharisees, who consider themselves “not sinners” and accuse others or give thanks for not being like the others (so sinful). They flaunt their holiness and then no longer need Christ. We have to be very careful with this issue because it closes the path to grace for us.
Yet more casual and atrocious insults. Anyone who doesn't view things the way you do is a Pharisee, sins against the Holy Spirit and so is destined for hell. Yet we mustn't Judge others must we, or so you keep telling us. At least not Sodomites. The rest of us can just take our chances. You yourself have already most firmly and terribly judged us all. No if's or buts there. Hell.
No, the sin against the Holy Spirit basically consists of having a concept of God equated to that of the devil, as if they were two forces of equal nature—one good and the other evil—and people can choose one or the other depending on their interests. The Pharisees are those who judge other sinners because they believe they are superior. That’s a very human mistake. Regarding our understanding of sin and the sinner, we must read Saint Paul because he explains it very well and is living proof of what he preaches. Basically, the Holy Spirit blows in a way that is unintelligible to man, and moreover, not a leaf falls from a tree without God’s permission. God is not on par with the devil (sin), but rather uses him and builds good out of evil. Sinners are called by God because the Holy Spirit uses sin (which draws the sinner’s soul into despair and pain) to call those souls. He does that with everyone.
