Christine Niles used grok & chat-gpt to analyze the pictures of Sr. Lucia over the course of her life. The analysis from grok/chat-gpt determined they are all one and the same person throughout.
I am afraid people will still believe what they want to believe, despite the evidence. It is like an article of Faith. I remember I used to get messages for years from a young gentleman who believed the World was flat. Nothing would persuade him otherwise.
I respect the work of Christine Niles very much but I was not aware grok and chat gpt could be used I this capacity. The overall presentation I don't find very convincing. I do know there are many facial recognition softwares available and in my personal opinion those would be more convincing and reliable to debunk this theory. Candace Owens used a particular software in her Macron series, I can't recall its name.
I agree. I thought that those AI machines were LLMs, i.e., large language models, and as such they would not be configured (or at least optimised) to solve a question like this. I have not watched the video I hasten to add. If you only have a hammer then every problem becomes a nail. Surely a machine learning platform could be trained on a dataset of digital photos, dental records etc. of people, with a time-series or longitudinal dimension, that is optimised to yield the probability that two datasets come from the same person or not.
We've been told so many huge huge lies down the years that I am open to believe just about anything by this stage. It reminds me of that film where the guy was living in a TV series and thought it was real life. 'The Truman Show'. John 8:44 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
I recently noted poor reliability with the Gemini AI app, so I asked which app was the most reliable. I was told (by Gemini) that it (Gemini) is only 80% reliable, but that Perplexity uses verifiable citable resources. Here is perplexity’s response to the reliability of ChatGPT and Grok in identifying a person using photos taken decades apart:
The conclusion is that Grok and ChatGPT are as useful as an average human’s eyes in detecting factors as complex as those in a case such as Sr Lucy’s.
I realize that it is paradoxical to ask for an analysis by one machine on two others, but it’s done in many scientific and commercial spheres, as a safety check. It feels somewhat ironical to me, lol.
I find the evidence in favor of the replacement theory overwhelming. Malachi Martin was in fact the first I believe to state this unequivocally 30 years ago. John Henry Westen and several others also endorsed it. But maybe we are at a point in time when this has become almost irrelevant. The Vatican is bent on canceling not only Fatima but all Marian apparitions that spoke of sin, chastisement, a false church. That would include Akita, La Salette, Quito, Garabandal.
The Fatima message was basically this: If you want Peace, then you must do "Penance, Penance, Penance." Do you think our world is full of penitential people? If a person calling herself "Sr. Lucia" looks at the world and claims that the requirements of Fatima have been fulfilled, she is obviously a fake Sr. Lucia. Certain Catholics who "believe" in Fatima think we can have "peace on earth" without penance first. That is not how it works. They want their reward without the required work. They have a Protestant mentality. The fake Sr. Lucia was created to tell those people what they wanted to hear and prepare them for their trip to Hell. This connects to the Warning. When the Warning occurs, an enormous number of people will immediately repent of their sins. Then for a short time (weeks after) there will be a kind of peace in the world. But gradually (again weeks after the Warning), people will give up on their resolution to amend their lives and the world will be much worse than it was before. Read Luke 11: 24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through places without water, seeking rest; and not finding, he saith: I will return into my house whence I came out. 25 And when he is come, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26 Then he goeth and taketh with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and entering in they dwell there. And the last state of that man becomes worse than the first.
80% is pretty good IMO. When I watched the Christine Niles video I was impressed by the details it demonstrated regarding the eyes, nose, forehead, facial width and so on all being in parallel through out the images taken over the years. As well as the explanation for the jutted jaw being from 60 years of dentures.
20% is a lot of deviation from truth, from a practical standpoint. I had done a lot of research on a type of phone, and checked Gemini’s accuracy: the inaccurate information was on significant points, and the AI would admit error after I had pointed it out. So, it admitted that it was “learning,” but, in my opinion, couldn’t be trusted.
For me it wasn't so much that grok/chat-gpt came to the conclusion. I couldn't care less about the opinion of a machine, especially when AI often can be incredibly stupid. But rather the demonstrable points of how grok/chat-gpt came to the conclusion it did. All which were shown by Christine Niles in the video.
Yes. In the famous 1957 interview to a Mexican priest (allegedly the last interview Sister Lucia gave before she disappeared) she spoke of the need for repentance and imminent chastisements. She spoke of sin and hell. She said that Russia would be Gods instrument to punish the west for its disregard for truth. Boy was she on fire! And yet in the interviews she gave in the 1980s she clearly stated that the consecration was done and the world had converted and the era of peace had begun. No mention of the need for repentance. No mention of sin or hell. No mention whatsoever of imminent chastisements. The new Jerusalem had descended on earth and we had somehow missed it. Wow I sure didn’t notice the world had improved so dramatically between 1957 and the 1980s. In fact I noticed quite the contrary. And when I look around now I certainly find it hard to find signs that we are living in the era of peace.
I agree--although the 80's and 90's were fairly tranquil. The Soviet Union did collapse. Pope JPII's consecration did bring a great measure of grace to the world in that we avoided nuclear war.
I totally get what you are saying and it all looks suspicious. I used to be in the fake sister Lucia camp as well as the "Russia was never consecrated" camp too. But when I decided to do my own research into the matter, checking all the different evidence, I changed my opinion on the matter. Our Lady never said anything about an "era of peace" in relation to the 2nd secret. But instead mentions a "period of peace" which many have interpreted as the era of peace, but IMO it is speculative. Sr. Lucia in her later interviews is speaking in regards to the March 25 1984 consecration by PSJPII. We saw the fruits of that in the following years, which is what Sr. Lucia was referring to. One of the issues I find when it comes to prophecies, especially Fatima, is that there are a series of purity tests designated by certain vocal personalities that events have to pass. But even these implied purity tests are speculative and often are based on zero sum outcomes. Essentially, everything must be met according to the purity tests or nothing is met. These purity tests are extreme positions, which is why I think many started calling the period of peace the era of peace. I was shocked to find out later that the era of peace is not mentioned in the second secret, especially given how many videos and articles are out there which refer to the era of peace in relation to the second secret. Removing the speculation from the prophecies and seeing what happened after 1984 was important in my investigation into matters. I don't claim to have a full understanding on the matter and nature of Fatima, but I also know there is a lot of information surrounding it which is over hyped and untrue because I discovered it to be so. Many things are taken as fact when it is nothing more than speculation. I don't say this to be rude or try to force people to my position, but just to add to the conversation and give a different perspective.
Never would this young Lucia, with her stern face and talks of hell, ever turn into this "everything is great", God is not upset, kind of person. I grew up memorizing her face, her voice, her mannerisms. People are free to believe what they want. But with regards to what is going on now with the downgrading of the Blessed Mother and her pleas, it just strengthens my convictions.
