Def worth listening to if you already havent. Makes me wonder... considering everything thats going on there now. Are we that close? I believe we are.
Interesting, and after that he mentions that God chose Russia and the East (he states would not have ) for salvation which he states (at 12:50) comes from the East.
This statement by Father Malachi Martin in his book "The Key's of This Blood" has stuck with me very loudly. As he read the actual 3rd secret of Fatima I take the following statement he made very seriously, especially the last sentence: “A physical chastisement of the nations, involving catastrophes, man-made or natural, on land, on water and in the atmosphere of the globe. A spiritual chastisement … [consisting] of the disappearance of religious belief, a period of widespread unfaith in many countries. A central function of Russia in the two preceding series of events. In fact, the physical and spiritual chastisements, according to Lucia’s letter, are to be gridded on a fateful timetable in which Russia is the ratchet.”
There is a theory that Ukraine was trying to shoot down Vladimir Putin's plane. It was on the same trajectory as the Malaysian plane and looked the same and only 30 minutes later. I am not saying that is what happened, but the important thing here is that Putin knows if it is true or not. That being said, if in fact the Ukrainian govt ,with the west complicit in this action, was behind the attempted assassination of Vladimir Putin, that leaves Putin with only one option, attack the Ukraine and the west. The timetable for nuclear war may have just been set.
UGCC Head: Our Patriarchate Exists, Though Not Yet Officially Recognized His Beatitude Sviatoslav, Father and Head of the UGCC, addressed the issue of patriarchy in an interview with Hromadske TV. “We have a patriarchate, but it has not yet been recognized,” stated the Primate. His Beatitude Sviatoslav with the metropolitans during the opening of the UGCC Synod of Bishops in Rome, September 3, 2023 “Patriarchate is a certain form of ecclesial life where a number of metropolitans, each with their own metropolitanates and structures, are led by the head of the Church. The one who ‘stands’ among the metropolitans is the patriarch,” explained His Beatitude Sviatoslav. He noted that during the time of Patriarch Joseph, who first broached this topic, our Church had three metropolitanates without a single central authority, thus they were under the jurisdiction of the Apostolic See in Rome, due to Ukraine being under oppression. However, today the UGCC has eight metropolitanates and a single legislative body, the Synod of Bishops. Therefore, we have a patriarchate. The Primate acknowledged that 30 years is a very short period for establishing such a patriarchal structure. “We need to familiarize ourselves with the Apostolic See (Vatican) and the Orthodox world, not only in Ukraine but also abroad. This is how we have a functioning, developing, thriving patriarchate that is awaiting its universal recognition,” he said. The question of who should recognize the patriarchate of the UGCC remains open. Some argue it should be the Ecumenical Council, while others believe it should be the Pope. “I think that the issue of recognition is a matter of time,” concluded His Beatitude Sviatoslav. The UGCC Department for Information - Source: https://ugcc.ua/en/data/ugcc-head-our-patriarchate-exists-though-not-yet-officially-recognized-1054/
There is a reason why the second largest of the 24 churches of the Catholic Church, despite its exponential growth and intercontinental dimension, has not yet received the status of "Patriarchal Church" from the Vatican, unlike others that are incomparably smaller, and that reason is exactly the same reason why no Pope dared to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in the terms requested by Heaven. This Church, that was almost annihilated during the Soviet regime, has grown a lot since the collapse of the Soviet Union, perhaps this growth has resulted from the graces obtained from the consecrations carried out by several popes. Its growth has occurred towards the East and its headquarters have been, since 2005, in Kiev.
A thought I’ve been having in recent days is that Kyiv could not naturally become the new seat of the Church of Christ, since it was not an apostolic see in the early Church. However, if the vision of the Third Secret were to refer literally to that city, then a baptism of blood could redefine its role in the leadership of Christianity. After all, Rome went from being a center of global paganism to the seat of the Mother Church because of Peter’s martyrdom within its borders. In a certain sense, Kyiv is a cultural and religious crossroads between East and West. However, its liturgical strength has always had a more distinctly Eastern character, which could take on great relevance in the prophetic words of Malachi Martin that salvation would come from the East.
The center of the Church relocating from Rome to Kiev is something which has repeatedly popped into my mind. It would certainly be a new age of the Church if it were to happen, and would possibly require a pope being martyred there? It's just conjecture but I think your post is the first I've seen mention this.
interesting thought Luan Ribeiro, could Malachi Martin be referring to a transfer of spiritual power if something bad happens to Rome, like if it becomes uninhabitable because of nuclear attack? If that Pope goes to Kiev , and is martyred there, I think that could make Kiev automatically the new Rome because of the Petrine presence, just like what happened to Pope Peter who transferred the Apostolic See from Antioch to Rome where he was eventually martyred.
As I recall, Fr. Malachi Martin said the Third Secret of Fatima has to do with Kiev and Moscow. Since 2022, the beginning of the war, I have always thought that Father was referring to the physical part of the chastisement according to the Secret, i.e. to the Ukrainian war. God bless you and all here.
Russian Orthodox believers who see Moscow as the Third Rome might come to view Kyiv as the Fourth Rome, while at the same time recognizing it as a return to their origins, since the entire Christian heritage of their country is rooted in that city. I believe that post-tribulation maps will look very different, and this will have a redefining effect on global metropolises and major centers of Christianity.
It is possible. Many people interpret that, in the vision of the third secret, the bishop dressed in white is an antipope; however, the fact that he is specifically in focus at the moment he is praying for the martyred faithful, shortly before suffering a similar fate, seems to indicate that he is a good pope. Moreover, the fact that the angels gather the blood of the martyrs suggests the potential spiritual effect of this act: “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the birth of new Christians” (Tertullian).
J.M.J. The third part of the secret revealed at the Cova da Iria-Fátima, on 13 July 1917. I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine. After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God, something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it, a Bishop dressed in White. We had the impression that it was the Holy Father. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God. Tuy-3-1-1944.[27][31]
Fatima, Chernobyl, and the 40-Year Warning: Salvation from the East It is a coincidence that Fr. Charron posted a video about this topic after Luan revived this thread.
Our Lady prophesies Russia & Ukraine (St Josaphat) “Please God I will give my life for the holy union, for the supremacy of Peter and of the Holy Father, his successor… Lord, grant me the grace to shed my blood for the unity of the church and in behalf of obedience to the Holy See.” (St. Josaphat, Bishop and Martyr)
