Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs

Thank you for your treatise. I agree with it.

 

And one Mother of God, Queen of Heaven.

 

This may be a hoax used to explain the coming Warning.

 

It’s a really good video that analyzes our current world events.

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/hHisUgsKUTI?is=gsKiQFjjwNzI-ME7

The above with Matt Fradd and Dr. Thigpen did a great job going down the theological rabbit holes, I don't remember then all but for instance, if there is another planet with life is Christ also their saviour? Does that mean Mary is also their queen as we say she is queen of heaven and earth? Dr. Thigpen says the church fathers did talk about this ( I wished he had named some titles of works) and were open to but nothing definitive came out of their musings. Without God's revelation man can only go so far. A good friend's father said one of the best things I ever heard and I stand by it today, if there is other life out there it doesn't change the fact that Christ died for our sins here on earth.
I personally do not believe this is the great deception, it's a distraction. The Epstein-class has been drip feeding us this type of stuff since Roswell. The real deception is happening in the Church with this synodal garbage.

 

https://medjugorje.com/the-moon-shot/


The Moon Shot
by a Friend of Medjugorje



A few days ago, Marija was asked anew about a question to Our Lady that is well known from the first days of the apparitions. Marija asked if there was life on other planets. Marija relayed that Our Lady said, “It is not time for you to know this now.” It leaves a wonderful mystery into the unknown, and that Our Lady did not say, no or yes.



Fifty years ago*, July 20, 1969, the first men walked on the moon. At that time, the mindset of the “moon shot” was viewed by the whole world as the greatest achievement in the history of man. While the tech world, robotics, artificial intelligence, etc., seems today to overshadow the lunar landing, it is not the case. The tech world came from space exploration and is greater in advancement than the advancements we have today. Those of us who witnessed it understood what a giant step it was.

 

Genesis presents creation almost as a cosmic temple prepared before humanity enters it. The Universe is ordered towards human existence and ultimately the incarnation of Christ. What a great God we have that he stooped so low to redeem us.

But more than that St Athanasius of Alexander talks of theosis “For the Son of God became man so that we might become god.”

The New Testament reveals that universe exists through, in and for Christ, and humanity has a unique place within that Christ-centred creation.

Creation itself suffers through human fallenness, and creation’s renewal is linked to redeemed humanity through Christ ultimately in a new heaven and a new earth.

 

https://www.ncregister.com/news/alien-life-out-there

Alien Life Out There
Vatican Astronomer’s Take On Extraterrestials

Edward Pentin News May 20, 2008
VATICAN CITY — Extraterrestrials: Do they exist?

The head of the Vatican Observatory thinks there’s a good chance they do, and that their existence would be in keeping with the faith.

In a May 14 interview with the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano May 14, headlined “The Extraterrestrial Is My Brother,” astronomer Jesuit Father José Gabriel Funes said that according to his “scientific judgment,” the existence of extraterrestrials is a “possibility.”

“Astronomers contend that the universe is made up of a hundred billion galaxies, each of which is composed of hundreds of billions of stars,” he said. “Many of these, or almost all of them, could have planets. [So] how can you exclude that life has developed somewhere else?”


The Vatican Observatory is one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, and has its headquarters at the papal summer residence in Castel Gandolfo just outside Rome.

Its main research telescopes, however, are located at the University of Arizona in Tucson.

Father Funes, who took over as head of the observatory in 2006, denied that the existence of other intelligent life-forms would contradict Christian belief.

“As there exist many creatures on earth, so there could be other beings, also intelligent, created by God,” he said. “This doesn’t contradict our faith because we cannot put limits on the creative freedom of God. To say it as St. Francis [of Assisi], if we consider some earthly creatures as ‘brother’ and ‘sister,’ why couldn’t we also talk of an ‘extraterrestrial brother’? He would also belong to creation.”


The Argentine Jesuit explained that scientists studying the question of extraterrestrial life have made much progress in recent years, and will soon be able to identify if other planets have the conditions necessary for life. He added that, in theory, forms of life could also exist in parts of the universe without oxygen and hydrogen.



Redemption
When asked how aliens could be redeemed, Father Funes referred to the Gospel parable of the lost sheep. Aliens, he speculated, could already be redeemed because they could have remained in full friendship with God, while the human race “could be precisely the lost sheep, the sinners that need the shepherd.”

But what if they were sinners like us? Father Funes replied that just as Jesus is believed to have come to save mankind, so he was sure that they, “in some way, would have the chance to enjoy God’s mercy.”


Father Funes’ comments are not novel: Jesuit Brother Guy Consolmagno, a fellow astronomer at the observatory, discussed similar themes in a booklet he wrote for the Catholic Truth Society in 2005.

The question has also been debated within the Church since the Middle Ages and was discussed by Christian apologist C.S. Lewis, whose fictional “Space Trilogy” featured extraterrestrial beings.

In an essay Lewis wrote in 1958, originally called “Will We Lose God in Outer Space?”and later retitled “Religion and Rocketry,” he argued that the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life would not necessarily contradict Christian theology.

And like Father Funes, Lewis said it was possible that such beings, if they exist, might have fallen from a state of grace and in that case might be redeemed through God’s mercy. Lewis added that it was even possible that other beings with souls might be redeemed through Christ’s sacrifice for the redemption of humanity at Calvary, citing St. Paul’s comment in Romans 8:19-23 that the whole of creation is longing to be delivered from slavery and that this deliverance will occur only when Christians fully exercise the “glorious liberty” conferred on them.


If intelligent life did exist, had fallen and could not be redeemed by God, either through Christ or in another way, this could pose a challenge to the Christian faith, Lewis acknowledged.

But, he said, “I think a Christian is sitting pretty if his faith never encounters more formidable difficulties than these conjectural phantoms.”

Added Lewis, “Christians and their opponents again and again expect that some new discovery will either turn matters of faith into knowledge or else reduce them to patent absurdities. But it never happens.”

Brother Guy believes there have been no theological statements on the subject by the Vatican apart from one allegedly made in the 1950s that he has so far been unable to track down.


Nonetheless, contrary to many reports in the secular press, Father Funes’ comments to L’Osservatore Romano do not represent an official Vatican statement but remain merely his personal views.

However, the fact they were published in the Vatican newspaper signifies support of the wider Church for the acceptability of his position regarding the possible existence of intelligent aliens.

“Essentially, it is evidence that the Vatican hierarchy agrees that there’s no problem,” Brother Guy said May 14.

He also added that the article’s publication is an “indication of its support” for the observatory following “inaccurate reporting” in some secular newspapers last year that the Jesuit astronomers had been told to leave their home at the papal summer residence.

 

“Christ's humanity is irrevocably part of God's own divine life.” Catechism

If there are aliens they will have to have tongues legs and knees lol and they will submit to the glorified God-man, Jesus Christ with his scars as a testament to his love of man.

'every knee shall bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father' (Phillipians 2v10 & 11)

One can see now why satan rebelled. He did not want to lower himself to submit to the God-man, the second person of the Blessed Trinity.

 

Well whether there is such a thing as Aliens or not I don't think there is any doubt that Our Holy Mother the Church has left the door open to us all to think as we like on the subject.

One of the things I would really love to do if I get to heaven is to visit other planets and meet aliens if they are really are there.

 

There may well be other beings God created and He hasn't told us about.
My sense though is that they never fell like man.

Because there can only be one incarnation.

 

That is what C.S Lewis thought. I notice other Catholic SF writers generally take the same drift. They also often say that every planet has its own guardian or governing angel, which is lovely.

 

At the same time there is the most startling revelation in Genesis

The Holy Trinity is revealed -

“Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.”
— Genesis 1:26
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”
— Genesis 1:27

Male and female reflects God's very nature and image.

The angels do not relect God's image & likeness in the same way.

Man is the crown of creation.

Mind blowing.

 

God has also created other beings with consciousness than angels and men. We call them animals. Perhaps there are other creatures in the category of ‘animal’ in the universe (I think they would have to be a direct creation, as life is too improbable to have developed ‘spontaneously’). They could be animals with a greater intellect than men, but, like all other animals, unfallen.

Revelation says little about animals, perhaps because they are not fallen and do not require salvation. Aquinas said they do not have immortal souls, but I don’t think this is doctrinal-it gains credibility because of Aquinas’ authority. However, St Thomas wasn’t always right-he was mistaken about the Immaculate Conception, for example, and his vision near his end revealed even his great work as ‘straw’. Duns Scotus was open to the possibility of animals with immortal souls…and Scripture mentions the lion lying down with the lamb and that ‘all will be made new’. Genesis tells us that there were certainly animals in Eden-a snake, at least! Animals in Eden, and the plants, would have been immortal, as there was no Death, prior to the Fall.

Revelation tells us nothing of animal life on other planets, but God has only revealed the bare, essential, minimum of what we need to know to be saved. So, the possibility of very intelligent, unfallen animal life elsewhere is not precluded, I think.

However, the reports we have heard so far about these events sound hostile to me, if they’re true. If there are such beings, I would be inclined to believe that they are in the fallen angel category. Is it possible for such beings to incarnate in a material, mortal body?

 

Yes animals, insects, fishes and even plants there has been some recent startling research about the consciousness of trees.

I would hate it if there are no cats or dogs in heaven. I might even have a argument with God about it if it is so. Why leave the poor old cats and dogs behind?


God permits and even encourages us to love our pets. It would be great to think such love has an Eternal aspect.

I could live with no cockroaches or flies.

 

I’d be the same. How could God forsake such unequivocal loyalty and devotion, qualities which are not so universally common in people? And Heaven has room for all. If animals are in Heaven, it would have to be along the lines of Scripture-the lion would have to lie down with the lamb-the dog would have to lie down with the cat! I have a vague memory of reading C.S. Lewis years ago and that he was initially sceptical about pets in Heaven, but he met so many very good people who were extremely upset by this idea that he came to change his mind. He saw the relationship of a dog to his owner as a ‘type’ of the relationship of man to his God, of course on a much smaller scale.

It relates to this issue-why would God create intelligent life on other planets if they were just destined to die and not be for the rest of eternity? God does not do redundancy, in my opinion. He knows every sparrow falling, even every grain of sand.

 

I thought the same.

 

I bought this one a few years ago.
Two of the astronomers with the Vatican Observatory discussing questions of Science, Faith and odd queries they get from the public, like the one in the title of the book.