Bishop Goldade's sermon at the consecration of SSPX bishop reveals a schismatic heart. He grew up within SSPX circles & probably has never met Catholics like us on this forum, alive in Christ through prayer & the sacramental life of the Catholic Church. They use the term novus ordo catholics as an insult instead of thinking of us as brethern. I sense in this sermon a person brainwashed & divorced from reality. "Today we see such wreckage. If the Catholic Church in Her tradition brings forth life, the modernist church is a desert, it kills, it kills everything that it touches, it kills the supernatural life, it kills the sources of grace, it dries up everything because it has placed man in the place of God and therefore turned away from the sources of life. So, this is a reminder today to be faithful, to be faithful to the sacred entrustment which Our Lord has given to His Church and continues down through the Apostolic Tradition." Wow, almost cult like.
Because this acronym represents the organization's full name in Latin: Fraternitas Sacerdotalis Sancti Pii X.
It's sad to know that. However, it's unlikely that something like Fiducia Supplicans could have emerged through a dialogue with the Orthodox
I think SSPX response and defense actually does more harm to themselves and only reinforces that their actions led to really their self excommunication. Sad. https://apnews.com/article/vatican-...ommunication-23160a01915058e7812cde8259110baa There response to me demonstrates that this isn't simply about preferring the Latin Mass or disagreeing with a prudential decision of a pope. Faithful Catholics can have respectful questions or concerns. The issue is about authority. If a bishop or priest can decide that he is justified in disobeying the Pope whenever he believes Rome has departed from Tradition, then the visible unity Christ established in His Church begins to break down. Every group could claim it is preserving the "true Church" while rejecting the judgment of the Church itself. And as earlier post with video from Robert Nugent showed, their us already splintering within SSPX. This iscehat happened in Protestantism. I continue to respect many people in the SSPX and believe they have sincere love for the faith. But Christ entrusted His Church to the apostles with Peter as its visible head, and that means obedience can sometimes require humility even when we struggle to understand a decision. For me, that's one of the hardest but most important lessons of being Catholic. I hope and pray for reconciliation.
Well, they have existed for decades with only their own hierarchy as the head. So yes, I would say almost cult like.
Yes we must pray for reconciliation. What stands out to me is that both sides have acted in such a way that there are no heroes here.
In fairness to the SSPX they do not all think or feel the same way, it isn't possible to put them all in the same box, the same as the rest of us. They have a wide range of views. I only ever got to know one SSPX priest and he is dead now and I and many other people consider him to have been a saint. The other SSPX I knew was a seminarian who later became a priest and he was a very,very holy man indeed. So there is no one size fits all. The late Archbishop Lefebvre too had a reputation for sanctity. I never heard anyone anywhere suggest for one second that Cardinal Fernandez might be a saint No one ever. I also have the very strong impression that very many of the Cardinals emplaced by Francis and Leo are homosexuals. I do not have that impression from the SSPX Bishops. Far from it. So that is a big, big, big point in their favour. I am so sick of homosexual Cardinals.
Another good thing to be said about the SSPX was that they kept open when pretty well everywhere else was closed during COVID. This was no small thing..
My view remains the same: fidelity to the Catholic Church is fidelity to Christ, even when dark clouds gather and no other way forward seems visible. However, there is one thing that interests me. We know that the late Pope Francis was not inclined toward a return to tradition. On the contrary, he openly expressed views that were far from the traditional direction promoted by the Society of Saint Pius X. From my perspective, it seems that certain people within the Vatican played a long game—much like Iran's strategy toward the United States over the Strait of Hormuz, using time as leverage. They placed the Society in a difficult position, knowing that its bishops were elderly and that a rapidly growing community—with more than 700 priests and over 250 seminarians preparing for the priesthood—would eventually struggle to fulfill all of its responsibilities because of the advanced age of its bishops. After Pope Benedict XVI brought them back into full dialogue, I believe that many within the Vatican were not pleased with that development. They did not want to provoke a formal schism, but they placed the Society in a subordinate position and simply waited for a moment like this. It reminds me of the line from the Clint Eastwood films: "Go ahead, make my day." I accept the Vatican's decision and submit to it. But the real question, in my opinion, is this: is this what Christ would have wanted? Obedience is essential, and in that respect the Society has no justification for disobedience. Yet it also seems that some people were eagerly waiting for this outcome while forgetting Christ's words: "Do not stop him. For no one who does a mighty work in my name will soon afterward be able to speak evil of me. Whoever is not against us is for us." If the near doubling of the number of priests in two of today's most secular and liberal countries—the United States and France is not the work of Christ, then I have to ask: whose work is it? Christ was a strict and just judge, but He was also merciful. We are all the Church. I cannot rejoice over something that is deeply tragic, because when one member suffers, we all suffer. Here are their stats from 2025 Picture 1 : 733 Priest Picture 2 : By country of origin Picture 3 : 264 Semenaries Picture 4 : By country of origin There are more 144 Brothers, 350 Sisters and so on...Here are the stats https://fsspx.news/en/news/sspx-statistics-2025-56151
While I don't support the SSPX Consecrations, I think it is good to understand how they are thinking about this. https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...at-catholic-sects-excommunication-by-vatican/
