Hey Glenn, I posted here so as not to highjack the main Garabandal thread. I know you are not the author of the above quoted book, but I am curious how the author is trying to tie Mt. Sinai (also known as Mt. Horeb) where Moses received the ten commandments to Mt. Carmel where Elijah battled the prophets of Baal by calling down fire from heaven. Later Elijah shelters on Mt. Horeb/Sinai and God speaks to him in a still small voice... Elijah Meets God at Horeb 9 And there he came to a cave, and lodged there; and behold, the word of the Lord came to him, and he said to him, “What are you doing here, Eli′jah?” 10 He said, “I have been very jealous for the Lord, the God of hosts; for the people of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thy altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.” 11 And he said, “Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord.” And behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and broke in pieces the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake; 12 and after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a still small voice. 13 And when Eli′jah heard it, he wrapped his face in his mantle and went out and stood at the entrance of the cave. And behold, there came a voice to him, and said, “What are you doing here, Eli′jah?” 14 He said, “I have been very jealous for the Lord, the God of hosts; for the people of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thy altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.” 15 And the Lord said to him, “Go, return on your way to the wilderness of Damascus; and when you arrive, you shall anoint Haz′ael to be king over Syria; 16 and Jehu the son of Nimshi you shall anoint to be king over Israel; and Eli′sha the son of Shaphat of A′bel-meho′lah you shall anoint to be prophet in your place. 17 And him who escapes from the sword of Haz′ael shall Jehu slay; and him who escapes from the sword of Jehu shall Eli′sha slay. 18 Yet I will leave seven thousand in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Ba′al, and every mouth that has not kissed him.” The connection between the future sign left at the pines and the pillar of cloud and fire during the exodus is obvious. The pillar of cloud and fire in the old testament has long been recognized as symbolizing Mary...many icons in the Eastern church dipicting Mary as pilar of fire and cloud. ..leading, protecting and guiding God's people. There is also the case of the first known apparition/bilocation of Mary as Our Lady of the pillar. From the wiki page: "The apparition of Our Lady of the Pillar was accepted as canonical by Pope Innocent XIII in 1723. So many contradictions[clarification needed] had arisen concerning the miraculous origin of the church that Spain appealed to Innocent XIII to settle the controversy. After careful investigation, the twelve cardinals, in whose hands the affair rested, adopted the following account, which was approved by the Sacred Congregation of Rites on 7 August 1723, and later inserted in the lessons of the office of the feast of our Lady of the Pillar, celebrated on 12 October:[12] Holy Chapel of the Pilar of Zaragoza. Altar with the Coming of the Virgin by 'José Ramírez de Arellano. Of all the places that Spain offers for the veneration of the devout, the most illustrious is doubtless the sanctuary consecrated to God under the invocation of the Blessed Virgin, under the title of our Lady of the Pillar, at Saragossa. According to ancient and pious tradition, St. James the Greater, led by Providence into Spain, spent some time at Saragossa. He there received a signal favour from the Blessed Virgin. As he was praying with his disciples one night, upon the banks of the Ebro, as the same tradition informs us, the Mother of God, who still lived, appeared to him, and commanded him to erect an oratory in that place. The apostle delayed not to obey this injunction, and with the assistance of his disciples soon constructed a small chapel. In the course of time a larger church was built and dedicated, which, with the dedication of Saint Saviour's, is kept as a festival in the city and Diocese of Saragossa on the 4th of October. James returned to Jerusalem with some of his disciples where he became a martyr, beheaded in AD 44 during the reign of Herod Agrippa.[13] His disciples allegedly returned his body to Spain.[14] The year AD 40 is the earliest recognised Marian apparition in the Catholic Church, dating to a time when Mary, the mother of Jesus, was still alive.[15] Pope Clement XII allowed the celebration of the feast of Our Lady of the Pillar all over the Spanish Empire in 1730. Since the feast day (12 October) coincides with the discovery of the Americas (12 October 1492), Mary was later named as Patroness of the Hispanic World under this title.[16]" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All this being said, could a Carmelite member explain more fully what might the connection be between the "mystery of Carmel" and the Sinai Covenant? I am a 3rd order Carmelite. Certainly the scapular, Our lady appearing as Our lady of Carmel at Garabandal would be pertinent.
Our Lady's scapular...made of wool, worn around the shoulders (scapular) to remind us of Christ carrying the lost sheep. Everyone who wears the scapular is in some way a Carmelite. It is both a sign of our devotion and love of the blessed Virgin, and of her protection. Pope John Paul II insisted that the doctors not remove his scapular when he was operated on after the assassination attempt. Our Lady of Carmel at Garabandal comes with the scapular in her hand.
Oh, I didn't even realize that some might not know that Carmelites look at the prophet Elijah as their spiritual father. Just as Elisha inherited a double portion from Elijah, all Carmelites share in this inheritance.
I read a wonderful book years ago. It is about Our Lady of Mount Carmel and her connection to the end. I was blown away by it, and now am going to read it again. Highly recommended! Was by John M. Haffert and called Her Glorious Title, Our Lady of Mount Carmel- Star of the Sea. Her Glorious Title – Our Lady Of Mount Carmel Star Of The Sea – St. Anthony's Catholic Gift Shop (stanthonyscatholicgifts.com)
I do know from the book that Mary means "sea", and that it does have to do with Elijah and the miracle of Mount Carmel where all the people were converted. It also talks about how in several Marian apparitions She has appeared as Our Lady of Mount Carmel, how the Miracle of Fatima was so close to the miracle of Mount Carmel with all the rain and then everything becoming completely dry and many people being converted. How the final Miracle pronounced by Garabandal and other major Marian apparitions will resemble this same Miracle like the one at Mount Carmel, etc... I see the book is not easy to find. I have a first edition that says only 10000 copies printed in 1993...
The great schism in the East occurred on July 16, 1054, the date on which the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel would be celebrated in the future. Perhaps the schism will end in the future on that same date through the miracle and intercession of Our Lady of Mount Carmel.
I think that the prophet Elijah relates directly to the Union of churches, something that was predicted in Fátima and finally in Garanbadal. Before defeating the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel, the prophet, father of the Carmelites, restored the altar of God that was in ruins, which could symbolize the division of Christianity, the sacrifice offered consists in part of 12 stones that symbolize the twelve tribes of Israel, but could also symbolize Christians gathered together again into one flock. In fact, the Feast of Our Lady of Mount Carmel is celebrated on July 16, the same date on which the great schism occurred in 1054. 1 Kings 18:25-46 25 Elijah told the Baal prophets, "Choose your ox and prepare it. You go first, you're the majority. Then pray to your god, but don't light the fire." 26 So they took the ox he had given them, prepared it for the altar, then prayed to Baal. They prayed all morning long, "O Baal, answer us!" But nothing happened - not so much as a whisper of breeze. Desperate, they jumped and stomped on the altar they had made. 27 By noon, Elijah had started making fun of them, taunting, "Call a little louder - he is a god, after all. Maybe he's off meditating somewhere or other, or maybe he's gotten involved in a project, or maybe he's on vacation. You don't suppose he's overslept, do you, and needs to be waked up?" 28 They prayed louder and louder, cutting themselves with swords and knives - a ritual common to them - until they were covered with blood. 29 This went on until well past noon. They used every religious trick and strategy they knew to make something happen on the altar, but nothing happened - not so much as a whisper, not a flicker of response. 30 Then Elijah told the people, "Enough of that - it's my turn. Gather around." And they gathered. He then put the altar back together for by now it was in ruins. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes of Jacob, the same Jacob to whom God had said, "From now on your name is Israel." 32 He built the stones into the altar in honor of God. Then Elijah dug a fairly wide trench around the altar. 33 He laid firewood on the altar, cut up the ox, put it on the wood, and said, "Fill four buckets with water and drench both the ox and the firewood." 34 Then he said, "Do it again," and they did it. Then he said, "Do it a third time," 35 and they did it a third time. The altar was drenched and the trench was filled with water. 36 When it was time for the sacrifice to be offered, Elijah the prophet came up and prayed, "O God, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, make it known right now that you are God in Israel, that I am your servant, and that I'm doing what I'm doing under your orders. 37 Answer me, God; O answer me and reveal to this people that you are God, the true God, and that you are giving these people another chance at repentance." 38 Immediately the fire of God fell and burned up the offering, the wood, the stones, the dirt, and even the water in the trench. 39 All the people saw it happen and fell on their faces in awed worship, exclaiming, "God is the true God! God is the true God!" 40 Elijah told them, "Grab the Baal prophets! Don't let one get away!" They grabbed them. Elijah had them taken down to the Brook Kishon and they massacred the lot. 41 Elijah said to Ahab, "Up on your feet! Eat and drink - celebrate! Rain is on the way; I hear it coming." 42 Ahab did it: got up and ate and drank. Meanwhile, Elijah climbed to the top of Carmel, bowed deeply in prayer, his face between his knees. 43 Then he said to his young servant, "On your feet now! Look toward the sea." He went, looked, and reported back, "I don't see a thing." "Keep looking," said Elijah, "seven times if necessary." 44 And sure enough, the seventh time he said, "Oh yes, a cloud! But very small, no bigger than someone's hand, rising out of the sea." "Quickly then, on your way. Tell Ahab, 'Saddle up and get down from the mountain before the rain stops you.'" 45 Things happened fast. The sky grew black with wind-driven clouds, and then a huge cloudburst of rain, with Ahab hightailing it in his chariot for Jezreel. 46 And God strengthened Elijah mightily. Pulling up his robe and tying it around his waist, Elijah ran in front of Ahab's chariot until they reached Jezreel.
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**Blessed Francisco Palau y Quer (1811-1872)** was a Spanish Carmelite priest and exorcist. He was one of the first to attempt to increase the number of exorcists in the Church. In 1868, he founded the weekly newspaper "El Ermitaño," where he wrote many prophecies. **The bold text is ours.** "Before Charles, or another Catholic king rises, God will say to a man what He said to Moses: 'Here is a rod: with it, I will show all nations my existence and my omnipotence.' To this man, demons will be handed over at his discretion, to be cast out from the body of current society, from the body of nations.... To this man, earth, hell, and heavens will obey, the elements and the whole of nature: this man will stand firmly 'insignitis et potentis ante reges horrendos' before those kings with whom Pius IX now has to compromise, and in this man, the system of compromises will end; The restorer will have incredible gifts and will cast out the demons from society. When will he come? When no one believes it; when all nations have consummated, in the persons of their kings, the apostasy of the faith; when you see the devil glorifying himself in his triumph, resisting the power of the Catholics. When the devil reaches the point of presenting himself before all the kings of the earth, declaring war against God with his motto: 'Revolution!' When you, the ones tasked with throwing him into the abyss, are powerless to defeat him because of their unbelief. Then this man will appear in the world to announce his end." He will come on the day of general apostasy, on the day of general war, on the day when the clergy, that is, those tasked with combating the devil, are powerless because of unbelief. "Elias will restore ecclesiastical matters to their proper order with a powerful hand, banish from the Church's bosom the false politicians, the antichrists, those legions of writers and doctors who, in the name of Christ, seduce the people, and cleanse the temple of God from the abominations with which bad Catholics defile it." Thus the clergy will be restored by the hand of this Elias, that is, the end of progressivism. "There is no other restorer but him. If the true restoration comes, which consists in the conversion to God of all nations and their kings, the restorer cannot be a king, but an apostle... And this apostle will be Elias, the promised Elias, whatever name he is given when he appears. Whether he is called John, Moses, Peter, the name matters little: Elias's mission will restore human society because God has ordained it in His providence." Who will he be? He is not the great monarch of the prophecies, because he is not a king, but he will completely restore society. "Will he be Elias the Tishbite, the same one who prophesied during the reign of Ahab and Jezebel, kings of Israel? We do not know. But there is nothing against faith in believing that he could be any man, a fisherman like Peter, the son of a carpenter like Jesus, a poor man, ignorant according to the world's science, but wise for his mission." "When the apostles descended from the mountain [Tabor], they asked their Master about Elias's mission, and Jesus replied: 'Elias indeed will come, and when he comes, he will restore all things' (Saint Matthew, ch. XVII). Behold the restorer, prepared for the law of grace, as Moses was for the written law. Does this restorer live? Tradition affirms it, and so we must believe. In the 16th century, he chose a Spaniard, the great Teresa of Jesus, and chose her to restore Carmel. He appeared to her many times, assuring her that in the last times, her Order would present itself with great strength for the battle." He will be from the Order of Carmel, which includes a simple lay Third Order Carmelite. "In Carmel, that is, among the Carmelites, who inherited his mantle through the hands of Elisha, and with his mantle his spirit and his mission." "This man, the most extraordinary the centuries have seen, will have the power to 'strike the earth with every plague as often as he desires,' this man is chosen by the Queen of this Mount Carmel to be the general and leader of all the armies of God, and this man is at the orders of his Queen, hidden on the holy mountain, and prepared for the day and hour that God has appointed for his mission, and through this man, the Queen of Carmel will restore order in human society." He will be the most extraordinary man ever seen, very Marian, and originating from Mount Carmel. The Venerable Holzhauser also speaks of a coming "Great General." Yes: 'He will come and restore all things,' but he will be despised and horribly persecuted by the Catholics themselves because they are the ones who have lost the world through unbelief. The elect will unite with him, and the bad Catholics will form a league against him along with the apostate kings." "There is no day or hour. When no one, not even the Carmelites, expects him or believes in him." Despite everything, many Catholics will despise him, even in Carmel. "Do not expect anything from politics but deceptions and betrayals. The restoration will not come from there: it will come from Heaven and will be brought to us by men who, dressed in a coarse woolen tunic, will announce repentance to the world." It is clear where we should expect this restoration to come from.
I translated part of the article from the Brazilian website 'O Príncipe dos Cruzados,' which briefly discusses the prophecy of Blessed Francisco Palau about a restorer of the world and the Church who will come from the Carmelite Order at the end of times. This figure could either represent the actual return of Elijah or a representative, such as a Carmelite pope. The previous article was extremely lengthy, so I was unable to post it in the thread. http://www.oprincipedoscruzados.com.br/2014/05/beato-francisco-palau-fala-de-um.html?m=1
The Miraculous Holy Cloud: A Pilgrim’s Journey on Mount Tabor In the course of our research for the Lives, Miracles, and Wisdom of the Saints & Fasting Calendar, we often run across stories that constantly amaze us. We hope you enjoy them as much as we do. An account from someone who witnessed the miraculous event Every year, on the Old Calendar Feast of the Transfiguration of Our Lord (August 19), a light-bearing cloud descends upon Mount Tabor in a miraculous fashion, which I was blessed to see for myself in August this year. Mount Tabor is situated on a 500m hill in the region of Galilee. According to sacred tradition, it was upon this hill that Jesus Christ took his three beloved disciples up, 40 days prior to his Crucifixion, and transfigured before them, “showing His glory as much as they could bear”. According to the monks of Galilee, everybody sees the miraculous phenomenon differently, as was justified by accounts from the tour group I was a part of. On a warm, cloudless and calm night, we ascended Mount Tabor, anticipating the all-night vigil for the Transfiguration. We had all heard of this miraculous “cloud” but had never in fact seen photos describing the miraculous event. To everyone’s surprise, as soon as the hymns of Katavasies began, a fog-like smoke started rising from the valley below us. Out of nowhere, a massive rushing of wind began, bringing this mysterious incense-like fog with it. Slowly, the fog turned into an endless cloud carried by the wind, flying over us with an intense speed which I had never seen before. Not long after, “Blessed is the Kingdom…” was said. The enormous brass bells tolled as the clouds descended onto the whole congregation. Every single person embraced the miraculous cloud with arms held high, chanting the troparion of the Transfiguration and giving glory to God! Some people stated that they even saw flashes of lightning, while other claimed that the cloud had an intense reddish colour, and others smelled a sweet fragrance. Overjoyed, the whole congregation, filled with thousands of pilgrims from all over the world, continued their hymns to God until daybreak. Having descended the Holy Mountain, the cloud was visible encircling only the Holy Monastery of the Transfiguration and not any other of the heterodox churches on the mountain. We, the faithful, departed with great joy on being witnesses of this great annual miracle! https://www.livesofthesaintscalendar.com/blog/the-miraculous-holy-cloud
Has anyone ever read about this supposed miracle of the Taboric cloud that descends upon the Holy Mountain every year on the Feast of the Transfiguration? In some ways, it reminds me of the great miracle, which consists of a substance you can see but not touch, like smoke. However, the Orthodox take an exclusivist stance on the phenomenon, as if it confirmed that they are the one true Church. But they might literally be knocked off their high horse if they saw something similar happen in a Catholic village at the right time and on the right day. In the video below, we can see the supposed miracle more clearly.
