My reading is that we still have a few years to go yet. She says the secrets were written on parchment as she does 'not necessarily have to be alive' when the secrets are revealed. She is not guaranteed to be alive when the secrets are revealed. When the time of the secrets come it doesn't necessarily have to be Father Petar who announces them. The Pope could do it, if he asked for the secrets and 'I could never say no to the Holy Father'. In 1985 when Ivanka received all of the secrets speculation was rife. But Mirjana states 'the time of the secrets was still many years away'. "When the secret begin everything will be clear. You will see why she chose to appear to me on the 18th of March every year and on the 2nd of each month". She mentions 3 times This Time of Grace The Time of the Secrets The The time of the Triumph Priests are the bridge between the time of Grace and the time of the triumph. We have to pray for our priests and shepherds so that they will be a strong bridge enabling all of us to cross it into the time of the triumph.
Indeed I have just noticed another important clue. Mirjana writes of our Lady In the early days of the apparition I wanted to know more about her life because so little of it was written in the Bible. When our Lady showed me scenes spanning from her childhood to the death of her Son, I wrote down everything in a notebook. I will be able to release the story of her life when the events she foretold begin to happen.
My personal opinion is that our Lady will appear in Medjugorje for 40 years (like Moses leading the Jews in the wilderness) So we might have to get to 2021 before the secrets begin to unfold.
This is the best proof for 2017. This one person had to write only the date of some anniversary. I think you all have the same opinion. The anniversaries of Garabandal are already not actual. And the anniversary of crucifixion seems to be to late, if we kook at ages of both current popes.
You are very very close. In the year 2021 many secrets will unfold, because between 2017 and 2021 is the time of 1290 days
Because I am not a prophet, receiving messages, I can only conclude the closeness of the antichrist based on scripture's events to take place (signs of the times, which are all being fulfilled), what our Popes have been saying and what most all current alleged messengers are receiving from God based on the close proximity of the AC's arrival. The one thing that is apparent to me, is that after the Warning there will only be two choices: God or his adversary the Antichrist. All who choose God will be one, because all will know his absolute truth. Then this scripture prayer is fulfilled: "that all be one Father, as you and I are one" and there will be no need for any other religion other than that of the godless antichrist. It is clear from all current alleged prophecy that this, along with the ability for the AC to control all people via the electronic world through microchips, will surely put him in the drivers seat to create his short, but horrible 3.5 years of persecution of the remnant church.
The more horrible would be, when by Warning unificated Catholic Church will change into AC church, and only separated individuals, who will be persecuted for creating new schism, will be the Remnant Church.
With all due respect, LV, I do not see that happening. Those of us who respond to God in the Warning will receive our marks of the Lord and will have Divine Protection and Blessed Mother's protection. But I think choice will be moot after that. We choose God or we choose AC after the Warning.
I read the book also, but I never came across anything about the anti christ coming after the fourth secret. I also thought she said that the other secrets can't be prayed away. Yes, she did pray and fast for the seventh to go away, that was diminished, not completely gone, and Our Lady told her not to do that again.
OK. It is right. But we can not wait for the Warning. Not will... will... We receive the mark of God in Baptism, in every Confession, in Holy Communion, in prayer of Rosary, in pain offered for salvation of souls. But sadly we can receive also the mark of pride, the mark of ignorance, the mark of egoism, the mark of false christianity. How many people on this forum are Christians? All? So if unbelievers read the posts, can they say: Look as they love each other!? Or not: Look as they quarrel, ridicule each other, therefore we want also to follow this way!? If somebody receives such mark today, it will be very difficult for him to receive the mark of love, mark of trust, mark of patience, mark of humility, mark of hearing the others. Therefore not will... will... because the Warning could be for many the one of the last chances for conversion.
I always thought that Our Lady would appear for 40 years at Medjugorje, the cleansing of a generation as with Moses. The burning bush that appeared on Apparition Hill and did not consume anything and the rainbows in a clear sky seem to me to indicate 40 years. But I think some of those 40 years may have the tribulation in them, so the secrets may start to unfold during the 40 years.
Mirjana has said that many prayed and Our Lady told them that the seventh secret was diminished, by prayer and fasting. When they said they would pray and fast for the seventh secret to go away, Our Lady grew stern and told them no, the secrets are God's Will and they will happen, that God's Will will be done. I haven't read the book, but it is interesting that you and others are now saying there is nothing in it about the anti christ coming after the fourth secret.
I've spent a couple of weeks trying to tie up Daniel and Antonio Yague, but I'm a novice so bear with me. The Angel Gabriel told Daniel there would be a period of 490 years to bring in ' everlasting righteousness' (This is 70weeks calculated where week means year and year is 360 days) He broke this down into smaller chunks. 49 years til Jerusalem would be rebuilt and 434 years until the Messiah the Prince. 49 + 434= 483. So 7 years are missing. We still have not come to the conclusion of this prophecy. It did happen as Gabriel told Daniel. The 483 years were fulfilled at the crucifixion. One week. (Seven years) remains unfulfilled. And Jesus pointed to Daniel when asked by the Apostles how we would know when he was returning. Gabriel told Daniel that in the middle of the week (3.5 years) "he shall cause the sacrifice and offerings to cease" The book of Revelations also mentions 3.5 years. These are expressed as... A time,times and a half time 42 months 1260 days half a week Daniel talks about Reign of terror of future dictator who makes a treaty or covenant but who tears this up half way through the period. Antonio Yague predicts the miracle as 13 April 2017 according to his study of the stars . He predicts the second coming as happening at the end of 2020. If 'the middle of the week' is 2017, then the end times began in 2013ish. I keep asking myself what covenant was agreed in that year. What we don't know is when the secrets apply. I would guess they are about giving us hope and persuading those that doubt that God is in control? We are told that one is the miracle, in which case, if Antonio is right, this will be next year. That's as far as I have got.....
Convenant, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Plan_of_Action ? The timing is pretty good. But then who is the AC? BO??? Doesn't really fit. Is Gog and the AC one in the same? Then through Natan's NDE we learned who the AC is? I also thought of Crimea/Russia and Putin, idk? And why is time, times and a half 1290 days for Daniel and 1260 days for John (in Rev.)?
Gog is AC. And he is Jew. He was born in land of Magogites (Scythians, Hungarians, Mongols, Huns - y haplogroup Q)
Hi C55, Glad you replied. I'm learning slowly as you can see! No idea what the 1260 days v 1290 days mean. Can anyone help?
1290 days will be removed the Sacrifice in new Eucharistic prayer. 1260 days can be parallel time between the first day from 1290 and maybe the first chastisement according to Revelation. But it can be the time 1260 years and also cca 100 years from Fatima when we count 1260 months (when we use old hebrew calendar described by Valtorta from the times of Jesus). The meaning of 1260 I don't know. 3,5 days after 1260 days, when church will be killed, seem to be 3,5 years.
Yes, me too. I am almost certain this will be one of those hindsight is 20/20 deals. After I posted I started thinking that it makes more sense that Putin is the AC, why would Obama be connected with a false prophet? I think there is a bigger connection with Putin to the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox church. So possibly terrorism strikes the Vatican and while we are all disrupted by this, Putin and Patriarch of ROC come into position somehow or Russia themselves attack it (difficult for me to believe this but anything is possible I guess). Makes sense that the BVM kept requesting to have Russia consecrated. And since Russia was involved in the Joint Plan of Action it could fit. Creepy and scary stuff, I may tell others not to worry but I find it more and more difficult not to be worried these days. So we have 4 possible starting dates: On 24 November 2013, the Geneva interim agreement (Persian: توافق هستهای ژنو), officially titled the Joint Plan of Action (برنامه اقدام مشترک),[1] was a pact signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in Geneva, Switzerland. It consists of a short-term freeze of portions of Iran's nuclear program in exchange for decreased economic sanctions on Iran, as the countries work towards a long-term agreement.[2] It represented the first formal agreement between the United States and Iran in 34 years.[3] Implementation of the agreement began 20 January 2014.[4] The Joint Plan of Action and the negotiations under it which followed eventually led to an April 2015 framework agreement and then a July 2015 final agreement, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. The dates for the Joint Plan of Action fit better, so 1290 days from 11/23/2013 is June 6th, 2017 and 1290 days from 1/20/2014 is August 2nd, 2017. Both of these dates are just prior to WCWTS sign 9/23/17.
The 3 days of darkness is the chastisement, correct? or part of it. And those 3 days will be on Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Holy Saturday? If you calculate 1335 days from 8/2/17 we arrive at 3/29/21 or 3/30/21 depending on how you look at it, just a few days before Holy Thursday 4/1/21. Very close, this is all conjecture on my part. So may be the Anti-Christ is somehow usurped 1290 days after 8/2/17 and the chastisement is what begins 1335 days after 8/2/17? You know what if we count the days in between the dates it works out perfectly I believe. 1290 days in between 1/20/14 (covenant?) and 8/3/17 AND 1335 days in between 8/3/17 and 4/1/21 (Holy Thursday beginning the 3 days of darkness). That's creepy. Furthermore, 1260 days after 9/23/17 (WCWTS in the wilderness) is 3/7/21, so church is back - possibly False Prophet is gone? And 1290 days after 8/3/17 is 2/14/21 the date that the AC is gone?
