Are the locutions of LTTW authentic.

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by jerry, Apr 29, 2014.

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Are the locutions of LTTW, locutions.org authentic

  1. yes

    9 vote(s)
    11.7%
  2. no

    33 vote(s)
    42.9%
  3. still discerning

    35 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. Sparrows

    Sparrows Principalities

    It's a no from me. Too political.......etc. The messages are worded in a way that sounds more like a news brief. Too long.....doesn't sound like previous messages from Jesus or Mary.
     
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  2. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Msgr Esseff does the commentary of the messages... Im mixed on its authenticity.I have my doubts but he does training for priests on spiritual direction and he trains Priests in exorcism @ Pope Leo XIII Institute in the US. I linked his main website Building a Kingdom of Love...podcasts of his

    http://www.msgrjohnesseff.net/
     
  3. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    I believe it was sometime in the 2014 locutions that stated it would be Pope Francis who would make the consecration of Russia, but just lately it states that it would be "the next Pope". When I looked for the locution in 2014, I noticed that they are no longer listed, but only a "review" of them. Very concerning! A well known Priest friend of mine (I cannot say at this time who it is) told me he doesn't believe in these locutions and tried to contact Msgr. Esseff regarding them but was unable to. As far as Msgr. Esseff is concerned, he is a very holy Priest and several people in my area have been involved with him in the Enthronment of the Sacred Heart. We must take a wait and see attitude regarding these messages - through prayer and discernment.
     
  4. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I give little time for LTTW even though I follow several others. To secular in style for me.
     
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  5. I don't recall that LTTW ever stated that it would be Pope Francis who would consecrate Russia. I remember a discussion only of assumptions about that matter attempting to guess just what/who was meant by our lady's often mentioned reference only to her "priest son". Some (mothersuperior7 for one) suggested a priest by the name of Ronan Murphy; others suggested not to discount Msgr Esseff himself or another who was inspired to write the now spreading "Consecration of the Family to the Divine Mercy" which was quickly given the Imprimatur. And that was all based on the fact that Pope Francis himself, as Pope, was never specifically named for sure in these messages. Of course, as for all previous Popes who also had the chance to consecrate Russia by name, it was always left up to their individual free wills to decide according to their own considerations of the times which presented the circumstances they considered in their decisions.

    Msgr Esseff is hard to get ahold of...unless one has his personal cell phone because he is always busy giving talks or retreats, etc. elsewhere....just returned recently from 3 weeks in Rome...hmmm....and is now in his eighties. I for one trust his very tried and experienced discernment in passing on these very valuable and intense messages (have to pass through him first and he is trusted to decide whether they each are to be released or not) so obviously very necessary for our now very short time and need for assurance of our Mother's help.

    Since Fatima is so central to everything it's good to remember that our lady there very pointedly spoke to a then unknown "Russia" itself and its control of a future spreading of "evil" and "errors" throughout the entire world unless her requests were met. That certainly was also in the category of geo-"political" prediction of events to come in the very near future to that time....in fact, took root the very next month after the last apparition there.

    I haven't seen either that the messages of 2014 are now no longer listed as mentioned above....one can find them here:
    http://www.locutions.org/2014-locutions/
     
  6. jjg77

    jjg77 Guest

    I have been diligently recording the LTTW messages for the past couple years on my website. A couple months back I wrote a program that automatically downloads the latest messages. I have read every message from the beginning and don't recall reading anything about Pope Francis being the one who will consecrate Russia... instead there is multiple mentions of a special Priest Son who has been shielded from the spotlight. If anything, our Mother laments that current Church leadership is not doing enough to focus attention on Fatima and its messages.

    For anyone who wants to browse LTTW messages, you can find them all here on my site. The 2014 messages begin on page 186: http://www.marianage.com/Locutions to the World/pg/186/desc

    You can also search all the messages using the search box at the top of the site, a feature I have found very convenient when doing research.
     
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  7. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Thank you so much for this site on the LTTW messages. I guess I assumed that Our Lady meant Pope Francis when She mentioned "my Pope" when referring to the consecration. We anxiously await this "last Pope" who will make the consecration - although late for many. I feel much better about the locutions now. I will send your site to the Priest I mentioned who is against them. May all be for the Glory of God!
    God bless you.
     
  8. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    I keep seeing the word "soon" in mystical apparitions, but now I guess that means "late".
     
  9. jjg77

    jjg77 Guest

  10. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Our Lord to Sister Lucy, Summer, 1931: “Like the King of France they will repent and do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors throughout the world provoking wars and persecutions against the Church: the Holy Father will have much to suffer.” (quoted in The Whole Truth About Fatima, Vol. 2, pp. 543-544)
     
  11. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    On January 28, 1987, Our Lady appeared to Mirjana and said:
    “Concerning the secrets, my children, these are not known by the people. But when they will learn of them, it will be too late. Return to prayer! There is nothing more important! I would dearly wish that the Lord would permit me to enlighten you a little more on these secrets, but the grace which is offered to you is already great enough.”
     
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  12. misericordia

    misericordia New Member

    Are Locutions to the world finished?
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  13. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    I don't think so. If I recall correctly, Satan would try to block these messages in the near future, but he won't be able to do that, according to LTTW.
     
  14. I believe there are other similar "wrap up" messages that have come after a particular section of messages on a particular topic/headline/subject choice.....followed by a new subject.
     
  15. You can go here and see all messages by year and in right column see the latest ones:

    http://www.locutions.org

    They are given by groups once or twice a week up to current date....so they are listed by 4 or 5 at a time that catch up to date.....not daily. Probably due to Msgr Esseff's other duties and time limitations to review and comment.
     
  16. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Earthangels....Msgr Esseff is hard to get ahold of...unless one has his personal cell phone because he is always busy giving talks or retreats, etc. elsewhere....just returned recently from 3 weeks in Rome...hmmm

    Earth I wonder if Msgr is part of tis upcoming exorcism course in Rome??? In lite of todays Papal Bull next lent papa Francis is sending missionary priests out to forgive sins only the Pope can forgive.....interesting times indeed. who needs TV,LOL

    Practical help for the demon-possessed: Vatican rolls out new exorcism course
    04/10/2015 - 05:02 am
     
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  17. IJofP
    Practical help for the demon-possessed: Vatican rolls out new exorcism course
    04/10/2015 - 05:02 am[/quote]

    Sure would be nice if they could come up with some new invention of Angel Dust or something and then drop it by tons onto the entire Middle East, Africa, Russia et al.....seems like all hell has indeed emptied out into our world these days. Need a lot of exorcising Davids going forth to fight this enormous Goliath. Then again Her "Flame of Love" as it spreads is to blind Satan!! YES! Every house should have their entries covered with an exorcised blessed St. Benedict cross for one suggestion. Some how though I don't think I'll hear such suggestions from the majority of our pastors.....nor weekly sessions for blessing salt either!
     
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  19. picadillo

    picadillo Guest


    I am sorry, I don't see any revealing outside of reading today's news and incorrectly interpreting them.
     
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  20. Oakline

    Oakline Tadhg

    I'm a reader of the LTTW for about 2 years I'm 80 percent sure there real but I have to remind my self in the bible the devil quotes Gods words in scripture but he never quotes it right, if the devil spoke like he normally would then it would be easy to know it was him, but if he quotes close to scripture but still contradicts it then he would be hard to see him
    2 Corinthians 11:14 ESV / 112 helpful votes
    And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.


    And I would be grateful for a response to this question:

    I have not read any post which outright condemns LTTW. If this is so, what are the dangers, if any, of following a locution which is not authentic.[/quote]
     

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