Bella Dodd

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I was really surprised to see Dr. Moynihan publish this. He is always so moderate and balanced. His opnions carry great wieght with me.

    It is then a sign of the very grave times we are going through when he puts out an article like this.

    Saddest of all it may very well be true. Who knows?

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    Saturday, September 1, 2018, #2

    "Some enemy has done this." —Jesus, telling the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares, in Matthew 13:28. The expanded version: "The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. So the servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ ‘No,’ he said, ‘if you pull the weeds now, you might uproot the wheat with them.’ In our case, this parable relates to the story of Bella Dodd



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    Day #8: Tobin, McCarrick and Bella Dodd



    The following report (below) has just appeared in the New Jersey Record, a newspaper in northern New Jersey, near the Catholic archdiocese of Newark, New Jersey, where former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick was archbishop, and where Cardinal Joseph Tobin is presently archbishop.



    The account is fascinating, disturbing, and -- for those who want a fuller picture of what has been going on -- it deserves to be read.



    It is also, however, extremely disappointing for Catholics to read such accounts about our bishops -- so if you do not want to be disappointed, skip it.



    But if you wish to catch a glimpse into what has been happening in our Church for the past 30 or 40 years — years of widespread cover-ups of abusive and immoral actions and activities — then this article is a good starting point.



    How did this happen? An element for a thesis



    Clearly, the recent Popes have all been in a situation which has been terrifically complicated and compromised, as the traditional teaching and discipline of the Church on these matters has diminished and unraveled.



    There were many cases of abuse under Paul VI, John Paul II, and many under Benedict, which are now being revealed under Francis. So this did not all begin with Francis. In fact, the Church sowed the wind, and is reaping the whirlwind.



    In seeking the remote causes of the present crisis, we should not forget the role of organized human actors.



    That is, some of this is the result of a general "malaise," an epochal apostasy from the faith, or of individual acts of corrupt individuals acting one by one out of various individual motives and compulsions -- "miserie umane" they say in the Vatican -- "human miseries."



    But there are indications of another strand in the fabric, a strand which is intentional and corporate.



    That is -- hypothetically -- indications that there as been an intentional infiltration into the Church: an enemy of the Church, or a group of enemies, have acted according to a precise plan.



    Is there really any serious evidence of this?
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

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    Yes.



    There is an affidavit that many people do know of, but one perhaps that many of you have never heard of, that is relevant: the testimony of a woman named Bella Dodd (1904-1969 -- so, she died at the age of 65 almost exactly 50 years ago; Bella Dodd lost one of her legs in a tram accident in New York City when she was about 19 or 20, so she was a person profoundly familiar with human suffering; by the way, though she came to Amerca, she was born in Italy -- "She was born in Picerno, Basilicata, Kingdom of Italy, in 1904 and baptized Maria Assunta Isabella").



    And Bella Dodd's testimony in that signed affidavit is that, under instructions from the American Communist Party, of which she was a passionate and high-ranking member for many years, she had headed up a special operation to place 1,200 young men in seminaries, all of whom were agents of the Communist Party.



    And this is what she said:



    “In the late 1920s and 1930s, I personally put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to weaken the Catholic Church from within.



    "The idea was for these men to be ordained and progress to positions of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops...



    "Right now they are in the highest places where they are working to bring about change in order to weaken the Church's effectiveness against Communism.



    "These changes will be so drastic that you will not even recognize the Catholic Church.



    "Of all the world's religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent.



    "The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the faith of the people, and even use the institution of the Church, if possible, to destroy the faith through the promotion of a pseudo-religion.



    "Something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing.



    "Once the faith was destroyed, there would be a guilt complex introduced into the Church… to label the ‘Church of the past’ as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries.



    "This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an ‘openness to the world,’ and to a more flexible attitude toward all religions and philosophies. The Communists would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.” (taken from Dr. Bella Dodd, lecture at Fordham University in 1953)



    Other Communists theoreticians of Dodd's time, such as the brilliant Italian, Antonio Gramsci, also had the idea to weaken the Church as an effective fighter against communism.



    This meant taking a slow path to infiltrate the Church and get Catholics to lose the faith little by little.



    This plan was eventually called “Operation Outstretched Hand."



    More specifically, it was to promote a pseudo-religion, a fake Catholicism but with enough look and feel to seem real.



    This plan would then introduce a guilt complex so that the Church would apologize for past activities, and then embrace other religions' ideas as a way to get along.



    Dr. Bella Dodd, before her conversion to Catholicism -- she was converted in 1952 by Archbishop Fulton Sheen -- helped get communist men to infiltrate the priesthood to move this plan along.



    In this audio link, you will hear Dr. Dodd, a leader of the Communist Party of America (CPUSA) in the 1930's and 1940's. She explains what she did while working as a communist in the lecture from 1953 at Fordham University. (Note: the useful part of the video ends at the 8:30 mark; I find the rest of the video vulgar and do not recommend it.)


    In 2000, Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel published a book entitled The Venona Secrets -- Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors, published by Regnery Publishing, Inc., An Eagle Publishing Company, One Massachusetts Avenue, NW, Washington, D.C. 20001. Their research turned up archial material that confirmed the existence of an operation “Outstretched Hand” which included the infiltration of Communists into Roman Catholic Seminaries.



    Now, Bella Dodd gave her testimony in the 1950s. It was the time of McCarthyism. There was a certain political fever that developed, an unreasoning fear of Communists "everywhere" which led to excesses like the "black-listing" of innocent people on unproven charges.



    So, we may need to be a bit cautious about Bella Dodd and her testimony.



    But we should at least know about it.



    She testified under oath that she had placed these agents inside of the Church structure. Dr. Alice von Hildebrand -- who is still alive in her 90s in New York City -- has shown me personally the affidavit that Bella signed, saying that these statements were true. Dr. Hildebrand has told me that she and her late husband Dietrich von Hildebrand believed her testimony to be true.



    So what are we to make of this?



    Well, at the very least, it gives us a possible "element of interest" in order to trace back the "etiology," the originating pathway followed by the "de-sacralizing" worldview that entered into the Church, at least in America, through Dodd's work starting in the mid-1930s, whch, by various twists and turns, has brought us to the present moment of crisis, when this feverish disease must either be thrown off, or break the thermometer and kill the life of much of the Church, as occurred in North Africa after the Muslim conquests.



    Here again is a link to the 1953 Fordham talk by Bella Dodd (link). I do not think you can begin to have a proper undestanding about what has been happening without listening to this video.



    The real issue is, is there a will and a desire to change? To return to the older ways, and teachings -- the traditional faith and practice of Catholicism?



    Or not?



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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Tobin and McCarrick



    And here is the article about the situation Cardinal Tobin faces in Newark, the archdioces where Theodore McCrrick was archbishop in the 1990s, before being promoted to Washington.



    The story is a sad one, almost impossible to believe. But here it is.



    The secret life of Catholic Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and reports of sex abuse (link)


    By Mike Kelly, North Jersey Record



    Published 8:00 a.m. ET Aug. 31, 2018 | Updated 3:56 p.m. ET Aug. 31, 2018


    In these days when we are learning about all manner of shocking secrets within the Catholic Church, here is one from Newark’s Cardinal Joseph Tobin.



    When Tobin arrived in Newark nearly two years ago to lead the city’s sprawling Catholic archdiocese — one of America’s largest with roughly 1.3 million parishioners — no one bothered to tell him that church lawyers had secretly arranged to pay $180,000 to settle two claims of sexual abuse against one of his predecessors, Theodore McCarrick.



    Tobin said he learned of the settlements just before they were revealed in media reports in June.



    “It’s embarrassing,” Tobin told me in a phone interview the other day. “I was really shocked.”



    That’s an understatement.



    Roman Catholicism was born amid secrets. The gospels are filled with numerous examples of Jesus telling his followers not to spread the news about him healing sick people or bringing the dead back to life. And during the church’s early years, keeping secrets about the identities of priests or meeting spots for worship became necessary for survival amid persecutions by Rome’s collection of self-indulgent emperors.



    Those days are long gone. Today, the vast majority of Catholics no longer worry about being crucified, beheaded or burned at the stake for practicing their faith. But secrecy is still a guiding force in the church — especially now when it comes to the criminal scandals of sexual abuse by priests.



    This is what Tobin is trying to fight. And if recent events are any indication, he faces a monumental task, starting with why he was never told about the legal settlements by two of McCarrick’s alleged victims.



    In recent months, several men have come forward to say that McCarrick abused them as boys, mostly in New York. What concerns Tobin now is McCarrick’s alleged abuse of seminarians or even newly ordained priests in the Newark Archdiocese.


    What McCarrick reportedly orchestrated was a classic power-sex set of relationships.



    The seminarians or young priests were all beholden to McCarrick for their future careers, possibly even good assignments as priests at graduate schools.



    Think of now-disgraced Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein manipulating young actresses into sleeping with him in order to gain roles in films, and you’ll get an idea of how this sort of creepy relationship works.



    The key difference between McCarrick and Weinstein is that McCarrick was posing as a holy man who was a leader in a church that proclaimed a set of firm morals. Weinstein was just another Hollywood jerk.



    Morals were little more than chess pieces in a game of life.



    For years, McCarrick would reportedly invite seminarians to his beach house in Sea Girt — usually just five at a time.



    The problem was that the house had only five beds in three bedrooms.



    Two of the bedrooms were furnished with twin beds — enough for four visiting seminarians. The master bedroom had just one, double bed.



    McCarrick slept on one side and ordered the fifth visiting seminarian to climb into bed next to him.



    By the late 1990s – only years before McCarrick was promoted to the high-profile post of archbishop of Washington, D.C., where he was also made a church cardinal — the sleeping arrangements with seminarians had become a tawdry open secret among North Jersey’s Catholics.



    Some priests and nuns apparently regularly discussed the rumors of the archbishop’s strange sleeping relationships with his favored seminarians.



    One priest even phoned this columnist in 1998, asking for The Record to investigate McCarrick.



    I remember responding by saying something like: “The archbishop is sleeping with seminarians? You’ve got to be kidding me.” I even added a colorful expletive, too. (Readers: feel free to use your imagination.)



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    This 1974 photo provided by a man who agreed to be identified only by his first name, James, shows him in California with Theodore McCarrick (on the left), a Roman Catholic priest who eventually became a cardinal. James says he was sexually abused for about two decades by McCarrick, who was removed from public ministry June 2018 over separate child abuse allegations.



    (Photo: Family photo via AP)




    McCarrick was seen as a savvy, articulate church leader.



    He traveled the world and became closely tied to a variety of U.S. and international political leaders.



    How could someone who seemed so smart be so stupid as to force seminary students to sleep with him?



    Wasn't McCarrick afraid of being caught?
     
  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Apparently not. With several reporters at The Record, I tried to check out the story – and promptly ran into the brick wall of silence.



    It was akin to investigating the mob.



    No seminarians would talk. Certainly McCarrick would not talk. Nor would any priests with direct knowledge of the escapades at the beach house.



    Now that shocking, you’ve-got-to-be-kidding-me story is back in the news — with firm confirmations from Catholic leaders who apparently knew about McCarrick for years but never told their flocks.



    It turns out that after McCarrick left Newark for Washington in 2000, at least two former seminarians filed legal claims against him. But those claims were settled in secret. Ordinary Catholic parishioners, who regularly drop cash into church collection baskets, were never told. Nor were front-line priests and nuns who have been valiantly serving the archdiocese for years.



    After McCarrick was forced by the Vatican in June to resign his cardinal’s status and was barred from participating in public church services, Tobin says he was finally told about the secret legal settlements.



    To his credit, Tobin ordered his staff to remove the cloak of secrecy and tell the general public.



    But in announcing the news of the settlements, Tobin has re-focused attention — and legitimate questions — on the church’s penchant for secrecy whenever it is confronted with a sex abuse problem.



    Tobin, 66, grew up in Detroit, the oldest of 13 children.



    After joining the Redemptorists order of priests, who specialize in missionary work in non-developed nations, he spent much of his career traveling around the world.



    When he was tapped to be a bishop, Tobin, who speaks five languages and has been known to spend his free time in lifting weights in a gym, quickly earned a reputation as something of a maverick reformer.



    He led efforts to block Vatican conservatives who tried to crack down on American nuns who were showing their independence from old-line customs by shedding their bulky, medieval style of dress, returning to college and earning graduate degrees and then engaging in such radical, un-Christian pastimes as working with the poor, new immigrants and single moms.



    A few years later, after being named archbishop of Indianapolis, Tobin defied then-Gov. Mike Pence’s anti-immigrant policies and helped Syrian war refugees resettle in Indiana.



    When Tobin took over the Newark Archdiocese in 2017 as a newly appointed cardinal by Pope Francis, he was cast as a friendly, far more humble replacement for the retiring archbishop, John Myers.



    For more than a decade, Myers was largely viewed as a dour, out-of-touch conservative who seemed more intent on condemning gay marriages than caring for Newark’s poor.



    Myers, who replaced McCarrick in 2001 and reportedly preferred to be called “Your Grace” by priests, retired in 2016 to a lavish, 7,500-square foot mansion in Hunterdon County with $500,000 in renovations that included a whirlpool.



    Tobin now has his own image problem to fight.



    With the shocking news about McCarrick, who was Newark’s archbishop for 14 years before moving to Washington as a cardinal, Tobin has been thrust into the vortex of the church sex abuse crisis.



    But the problem for Tobin is not that he tried to cover up sex abuse – an allegation that other church leaders now face, including Pope Francis.



    For Tobin, the question is why he did not know about the misdeeds of McCarrick.



    Was Tobin naïve? Out of touch? Too trusting of his aides?



    In his phone conversation with me the other day, Tobin outlined his predicament, pausing often and punctuating many sentiments with exasperated exhaling.



    Not only was he kept in the dark about the legal settlements on McCarrick’s behalf, but no one even bothered to sit him down and explain McCarrick’s alleged sleeping arrangements with the seminarians.



    This is astonishing.



    Imagine a new CEO taking over a corporation and not being told of a legal quagmire involving one of his predecessors.



    Tobin told me that soon after arriving in Newark, he heard “rumors” about McCarrick’s beach house.



    But he never bothered to check them out. He says he thought the story was too “incredulous” to believe.



    “Shame on me that I didn’t ask sooner,” he now says.



    Tobin is far too hard on himself.



    Yes, he should have asked about the rumors of McCarrick’s beach house.



    Yes, it’s hard to believe that as a high-ranking Catholic prelate that he never heard about those rumors before arriving in Newark.



    And, yes, he should have been more savvy and curious about the secrets of church bureaucracy.



    But why didn’t anyone in that church bureaucracy tell him about McCarrick?



    At least one priest, the Rev. Boniface Ramsey, spoke up — or tried to.



    Ramsey taught church art and history at the archdiocesan seminary at Seton Hall University during the 1980s and 1990s.



    After seminarians told him about McCarrick’s beach house, Ramsey tried to investigate.



    “It took me a while to digest it,” Ramsey told me when I telephoned him recently at St. Joseph’s church in Manhattan where is now pastor. “I talked to a priest friend. Everybody knew about the beach house.”



    But Ramsey could never confirm the rumors.



    Nonetheless, he said he complained about McCarrick in a 2000 letter to the Vatican ambassador in Washington, D.C.



    He never got a response.



    He complained again to New York’s Cardinal Edward Egan in 2004.



    Ramsey said Egan brushed him off.



    In 2015, Ramsey wrote to Boston’s Cardinal Sean O’Malley, who had been tapped by the Vatican to look into Catholicism’s sex abuse scandal in America.



    But Ramsey was never told if O’Malley looked into the matter.


    Meanwhile, McCarrick is not talking. He reportedly is living in seclusion in the Washington area.



    Looking back, Ramsey wonders now why people now seem so shocked about McCarrick.



    “All you had to do was talk to me,” Ramsey said. “But this was suppressed.”



    Tobin won’t go so far as to say the allegations about McCarrick were covered up. But he shares Ramsey’s sense of frustration.



    “All I keep hearing is everybody knew,” Tobin said. “But if everybody knew, why didn’t someone speak up?”



    Since then, Tobin said several priests have come forward to talk about McCarrick.



    But if McCarrick was regularly inviting groups of five seminarians to his beach house during his tenure in Newark, it stands to reason that scores of seminarians had direct knowledge of what took place.



    It also stands to reason that a large number of those seminarians became priests and are now serving parishes in North Jersey.



    Why haven’t they spoken up? It's time to break the code of silence.



    Tobin said he plans to launch an internal investigation into why he wasn’t told about McCarrick’s alleged antics.



    To help in this effort, he said he recently hired Kinsale Management Consultants, an investigative firm run by former FBI official Kathleen McChesney, to examine all of the archdiocesan files on sex abuse to determine if there are landmines.



    For now, Tobin says he is trying deal with the imploding crisis that not only involves McCarrick but other reports of sexual abuse from a Pennsylvania grand jury report.



    He promises transparency – surely a notable goal in a church that has lived with far too many secrets for too many years.



    But Tobin knows what he faces.



    “It’s a bit like being in the boxing ring with your hands tied behind your back and a blindfold over your eyes,” he said. “You’re not sure where the next punch is coming from.”



    Tobin’s first task is to remove that blindfold of secrecy from his church.



    After 2000 years, it’s time Catholicism opened its eyes.



    Email: kellym@northjersey.com
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

  6. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    We've discussed Bella Dodd and her testimony to the House UnAmerican Activities Committee before.
    What reason is there to doubt her?
    On Tuesday, August 5, 1952 she publicly announced that on April 7th of the same year, she had been received back into the Roman Catholic Church. Not being able to secure her baptismal certificate from Italy after inquiry, she was conditionally baptized by Bishop Fulton J. Sheen in St. Patrick’s Cathedral, New York.

    Her testimony is also backed up by the the memoirs of communist agent AA 1025, whose briefcase was discovered after being killed in an auto accident in the mid-sixties.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It seems to describe Cardinals Cupich, Tobin and Wuerl so very well. I think that is what made Dr Moynihan post this. Also of course fellow travellers in the Vaticna itself.
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I have no doubts about the truth of Bella Dodd's testimony. The fallout is plain to see.
    I have recently been thinking about the Supreme Court cases in the USA in the early 1960's where school prayers were abolished (public schools) Prior to 1962 and 1963, school children in public schools in the US would begin the school day with Bible readings, the Lord's prayer, and the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag. In my local school system, I do not remember Bible reading but we prayed the Lord's prayer every day as a group and we stood with our hands over our hearts and did the Pledge of Allegiance, facing the flag. No one dissented. A few Catholic children stopped praying at "deliver us from evil". This lasted until I was in the 8th grade. It was really a good thing. Most of us kids knew right from wrong back then. The Ten Commandments were posted in public.
    Until atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair took the prayers to court....So at about the time the full assault on the Catholic Church was underway, it was also happening in the secular institutions of the USA.

    Good thread, Padraig.
     
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  9. gracia

    gracia Archangels

    Yes, good thread! Important.
     
  10. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    I think this is a very pertinent question.
    The communist infiltration into the Catholic church has apparently now become more widely known.
    It is then easy to see that the scandal in the church today is a direct result of this infiltration.
    Indeed, all the negative changes in the Catholic Church can be traced back to this infiltration.

    Lay Eucharistic Ministry Born of Communist Infiltration
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    Guest Article By David Martin
    https://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2016/09/lay-eucharistic-ministry-born-of.html

    On June 29, 1972, on the occasion of the ninth anniversary of his coronation, Pope Paul VI declared to the world, "From some fissure the smoke of satan entered into the temple of God."

    The pope was referencing the diabolical forces that had infiltrated the Church through the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965).

    Now a key objective of Vatican II was the empowerment of the laity, in keeping with its theme of "active participation of the faithful." With the Council came the new definition of priesthood as The people of God. It saw whole Church as one hierarchy or priesthood, but in different ranks, with the ordained ministerial priesthood being only one rank of this priesthood. What was proposed was the fallacy that we are all priests of one hierarchy.

    "The common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood are nonetheless ordered one to another; each in its own proper way shares in the one priesthood of Christ." (Lumen Gentium 10)

    It is a well known and documented fact that the agents of Communism began entering our Catholic seminaries as far back as the 30s for the purpose of destroying the Church from within. Over a thousand such agents had infiltrated the seminaries prior to 1940. The testimonies of ex-communists like Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson who had testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee more than confirm that these agents of the sickle and hammer had been building their forces against the Church with the intention of breaking in and indoctrinating the faithful with anti-church principles.

    Their plan was to first absorb Catholic philosophy and teaching in the seminaries so as to give them inside access to masterfully communicate and pull the Catholic hierarchy away from their traditional roots, so that they in turn would embrace revolutionary ideas and become pawns of ecclesial subversion. The Leninist "clenched fist" ideal would now be applied in a spiritual way where the "empowerment of the laity" would be a means of overthrowing the Church's monarchical structure, so that a new sense of democracy and religious liberty would take precedence over the established rule of religion issuing from the Seat of Peter.

    Hence we have the modern-day role of lay Eucharistic ministers that are supposedly empowered to perform the priestly function of giving Communion. Eucharistic ministers indeed have been empowered, but their empowerment is from the dark forces. What we’re seeing today is Marxism in full swing. The insidious efforts of communists to infiltrate the Church are now manifest through this and other like practices, e.g. women lectors, lay liturgists.

    It was a well orchestrated plan to undermine the priesthood so that spiritual revolution would later ensue under the pretext of a "renewal."

    Bella Dodd said in the early 50s: "In the 1930s we put eleven-hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within." Twelve years before Vatican II, she said, "Right now they are in the highest places in the Church." She predicted that the changes they would implement would be so drastic that "you will not recognize the Catholic Church."

    Dodd explained that of all the world's religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by communists. Her work as a communist was to give the Church a complex about its heritage by labeling "the Church of the past as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries."

    The focal point of attack would be the Holy Eucharist, as we read in the memoirs of communist agent AA 1025, whose briefcase was discovered after being killed in an auto accident in the mid-sixties. "To weaken more the notion of 'Real presence' of Christ, all decorum will have to be set aside. No more costly embroidered vestments, no more music called sacred, especially no more Gregorian Chant, but a music in jazz style, no more sign of the Cross, no more genuflections, but only dignified stern attitudes. Moreover, the faithful will have to break themselves from the habit of kneeling, and this will be absolutely forbidden when receiving Communion.... Very soon, the Host will be laid in the hand in order that all notion of the Sacred be erased."

    Again AA 1025 says, "In the Mass, the words 'Real Presence' and 'Transubstantiation' must be deleted. We shall speak of ‘Meal’ and ‘Eucharist’ instead. We shall destroy the Offertory and play down the Consecration and, at the same time, we shall stress the part played by the people. In the Mass, as it is today, the priest turns his back to the people and fills a sacrificial function which is intolerable. He appears to offer his Mass to the great Crucifix hanging over the ornate altar. We shall pull down the Crucifix, substitute a table for the altar, and turn it around so that the priest may assume a presidential function. The priest will speak to the people much more than before. In this manner the Mass will gradually cease to be regarded as an act of adoration to God, and will become a gathering and an act of human brotherhood."

    The foregoing coincides with leaked plans of the Masonic P2 Lodge in Italy that were issued just before Vatican II. Consider this excerpt from their 34 guidelines that were made effective March 1962.

    "Get women and laity to give Communion, say that this is the Age of the Laity. Start giving Communion in the hand like the Protestants, instead of on the tongue, say that Christ did it this way. Collect some for Satan Masses."

    Can we understand now why the Church today has been virtually overthrown by the post-conciliar revolution? Vatican II opened its doors and invited these agents of Satan to sit in on the Council and participate in the drafting of its documents. Or hadn't it occurred to us why the 1964 Vatican II Instruction Inter Oecumenici commanded that the traditional prayer to St. Michael at the end of Mass be "suppressed?" (Article 48) Obviously the old devil didn't want the faithful praying against him.

    The same document states: "The main altar should preferably be freestanding, to permit walking around it and celebration facing the people." (Article 91) This coincides with the memoirs of the above mentioned agent who said, "We shall stress the part played by the people" and who complained that "the priest turns his back to the people and fills a sacrificial function which is intolerable."

    There is no arguing that the faithful are called to have "active participation" in Christ, but this participation will consist in silent meditation on the Passion and contemplation on the Sacred Mysteries, not in assuming priestly functions or engaging in liturgical busy-body activity. We are called to sanctify our souls and to work out our salvation "with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12), which means we must respect Christ's monarchical authority and not attempt to assume functions which we are not authorized to perform.

    If the Catholic hierarchy would simply follow rules and regulations and keep with the Church’s 2000-year tradition of having only consecrated priests administer Communion, their household wouldn’t be in such a shambles today. If heresy and apostasy now abound, it's because the hierarchy has lost confidence in the rule of tradition, fulfilling St. Paul's prophecy: "There shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but... will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears." (2 Timothy 4:3)

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  11. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    If priests would dump their modernist inventions and let down their nets the traditional way, they would again bring up a marvelous catch for Christ, but if they continue on their present path of change and "renewal," they will continue laboring all night in the dark as they have since the Council.

    If the church today is largely ignorant of the physical and supernatural presence of Christ in his sanctuary, it is because of these socialist lay-empowerment movements through which the Eucharist has been profaned. The Eucharist is the very heart of the Mystical Body around which the entire Church must revolve, therefore the members of Christ are dead members if they will not adore His True Body in the manner commanded by Christ, namely, by receiving on the tongue and from a priest only.

    It was not without reason that St. Basil declared Communion in the hand to be "a great fault." St. Thomas Aquinas taught: "Because out of reverence towards this Sacrament, nothing touches it, but what is consecrated; hence the corporal and the chalice are consecrated, and likewise the priest’s hands, for touching this Sacrament." (Summa Theologica)

    The Council of Trent reaffirmed the Church's continuous teaching forbidding lay people from administering Communion. "It must be taught, then, that to priests alone has been given power to consecrate and administer to the faithful, the Holy Eucharist. That this has been the unvarying practice of the Church... as having proceeded from Apostolic tradition, is to be religiously retained." - The Catechism of the Council of Trent

    St. Paul warns that "whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the Body and of the Blood of the Lord... For he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Body of the Lord." (1 Corinthians 11: 27,29)

    Hence it would be better never to receive Communion than to go up everyday in cafeteria fashion and receive from people who are not empowered to administer the Body of Christ. Though it has become a widely accepted "common-law" practice today, the use of Eucharistic ministers at Mass is illicit in that it radically breaks with the Church's 2000-year tradition.

    The argument that Pope John Paul II sanctioned the use of Eucharistic ministers holds no water, since he was very much against this practice. The following is from his Redemptionis Sacramentum, issued March 25, 2004.

    "If there is usually present a sufficient number of sacred ministers [priests] for the distribution of Holy Communion, extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion may not be appointed. Indeed, in such circumstances, those who may have already been appointed to this ministry should not exercise it. The practice of those Priests is reprobated who, even though present at the celebration, abstain from distributing Communion and hand this function over to laypersons." (Article 157)

    How is it that most Catholic parishes today are embroiled in this lay ministry program in spite of this and other like prohibitions? It's because the tumor of communism continues to spread its cancerous errors throughout the Church. The ugly hand of communism has truly reached in to desecrate the Holy Eucharist.

    Let us pray that the pope will finally consecrate Russia to the Blessed Virgin, so that the red tumor can be eradicated and health can be restored to Christ's Mystical Body.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think it is not simply Communism, it is really a form of Masonism a kind of New World Order idea. These people have their very won agenda and agenda's within an agenda. They have a very notciable profile which is evident when it appears. For instance Caridnal Cupick saying trying to find child abusers is going dwon a , 'Rabbit Hole', that it is migrants, and Gloabl Warming that are important. Also Pope Francis talking about plastic in the oceans as , 'The most important issue'. It as if they all dance to the beat of a common drum.
     
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  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The very opposite of this is as St Paul says that,

    "The Spritual man judges all things spiritually'.

    These people judge things the exact oppostie of this. They see man as God and judge all things humanly, not spiritually.

    They wish to creat a human Church , a Human entity with Man as its God. This kind of reasoning goes right back to the French Revolution the the so-called, 'Enlightenment'. and beyond when they anointed, 'The God of Reason'.

    It is, esentially, Satanic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_Reason

     
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  14. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    reminds me very much of a book I once read a good few years ago..wonder have you read it or heard of it AA1025 (anti apostle 1025) full book can be read from link below

    https://archive.org/stream/Aa-1025T...le/Aa-1025TheMemoirsOfAnAnti-apostle_djvu.txt
     
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    HeavenlyHosts Powers

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  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I had not read this, I would find it hard to read it as I would find it too depressing.

    But it reminds me of a story I heard years ago from a hospital in Liverpool, England. A devout catholic nurse was fasting on bread and water over Lent/ She went down to the canteen and found a stranger , a nurse who was also taking bread and water for lunch. Surprised and pleased the Catholic lady asked the stranger if she was also fasting for Lent.

    TO which the strange nurse replied.

    'No I am a Satanist and am fasting for the overthrow of Catholic priests'
     
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  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :eek::sick:
     
  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Bishop Sheen actually had a similar experience on a plane. The woman sitting next to him was a witch fasting for legalization of abortion. Horror!
     
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  19. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Oh boy! Scary stuff :eek::eek::eek:
     
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  20. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Yes, I believe that's where the communist plan for the Novus Ordo mass was described.

    From the article
    Lay Eucharistic Ministers: A Communist Connection?
    https://onepeterfive.com/lay-eucharistic-ministers-a-communist-connection/

    [.......]
    The focal point of attack would be the Holy Eucharist, as we read in the alleged memoirs of communist agent AA 1025, whose briefcase was discovered after being killed in an auto accident in the mid-sixties. “To weaken more the notion of ‘Real presence’ of Christ, all decorum will have to be set aside. No more costly embroidered vestments, no more music called sacred, especially no more Gregorian Chant, but a music in jazz style, no more sign of the Cross, no more genuflections, but only dignified stern attitudes. Moreover, the faithful will have to break themselves from the habit of kneeling, and this will be absolutely forbidden when receiving Communion…. Very soon, the Host will be laid in the hand in order that all notion of the Sacred be erased.”

    Again AA 1025 says,

    “In the Mass, the words ‘Real Presence’ and ‘Transubstantiation’ must be deleted. We shall speak of ‘Meal’ and ‘Eucharist’ instead. We shall destroy the Offertory and play down the Consecration and, at the same time, we shall stress the part played by the people. In the Mass, as it is today, the priest turns his back to the people and fills a sacrificial function which is intolerable. He appears to offer his Mass to the great Crucifix hanging over the ornate altar. We shall pull down the Crucifix, substitute a table for the altar, and turn it around so that the priest may assume a presidential function. The priest will speak to the people much more than before. In this manner the Mass will gradually cease to be regarded as an act of adoration to God, and will become a gathering and an act of human brotherhood.”

    The foregoing coincides with leaked plans of the Masonic P2 Lodge in Italy that were issued just before Vatican II. Consider this excerpt from their 34 guidelines that were made effective in March of 1962.

    “Get women and laity to give Communion, say that this is the Age of the Laity. Start giving Communion in the hand like the Protestants, instead of on the tongue, say that Christ did it this way. Collect some for Satan Masses.”

    [..........]
     
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