Cardinal Ratzinger: We Have Not Published the Whole Third Secret of Fatima

Mac,

I think speculation is already heating up, but I don't believe there will be any clarification by the Vatican, at least not until the complete fulfillment of the Secret itself.

Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!

 

The only way the Vatican can prove what they are saying is simple.

Release every letter, diary, and notebook in their possession of Sister Lucy writings and let us judge for ourselves.

By the way I am of the opinion that there were words of Our Lady after the vision that were not released. In the end, I believe the diplomatic corp of the Vatican has always played a game of semantics.
If you have studied Fatima as I have....any lay person can determine the secret was kept in 2 places. One in the papal apartments and one in the Vatican archives, hence 2 different yet similar texts. One perhaps with the vision( that we received), and one with the vision with words attributed to Our Lady( that we have not received).

 

Basically C. Bertone silenced Sr. Lucy under obedience. She was pretty much confined to limited area of living and just who she could talk to. She was instructed to say no more than what the hierarchy (Bertone basically) had spun for the public. He wanted Fatima relegated to the past and only as just another shrine for pilgrims. In one of the later interviews or discussions that Sr. Lucy had with a spiritual advisor she revealed that Our Lady had at one point given her permission to "give them only what they want and not the reasons behind the vision/s because they do not want that". One who has read the third secret has implied that delving more into the Apostasy predicted would really involve a lot of the hierarchy's guilt in what Malachi Martin knew to be Masonry and Satanic influence of the NWO beginning way back. Martin was the Vatican's own "CIA"! He has said that the Apostasy is the backdrop for the whole thing....which would be the reason for the future huge chastisements involving the Church. As Martin says, the "organization of the Church" is shot....and a long time ago, but not the true Church/Body of Christ on earth to which he said he remained a faithful priest. This is why our Lady has been calling now for some time for all of the various cenacles devoted to Her/consecrated to Her, to gather in earnest for these are forming the renewed Church under her protection and will be the foundation for her Triumph into the New Era.

 

When Mari Loli of Garabandal was urged to reply about the great punishment the seers witnessed and which made them cry horribly she said: "The Blessed Mother has shown us how Communism will enter into the Church, and this is The Great Punishment. When we saw the consequences, this is what made us cry."

I would think that this Satanic intrusion by its tool of Marxist atheistic materialism (dialectical materialism) is the same as the Apostasy within the secrets of Fatima. Perhaps then, with the Church's culpability in hiding this reality from the faithful is why Fatima was followed by Garabandal with the same implications for the Church and its future. And this Satanic "intrusion" I believe has now connected the organizational Church to the NWO's own "religion" of the future, forming already now for decades. And some, like Malachi Martin, have even named names!

 

I think its dangerous to assume that BXVI had ANYTHING whatsoever to do with the "Vatican Press Release." The bigger question is who controls the Vatican Press Office and/or has greatest influence and access to it.

 

I think you are probably right Mario. The Hierarchy , like the King of France, will lead us into misfortune.

 

Third Secret Timeline

1917, July 13: Our Lady of Fatima gives a secret in three parts to the three shepherd children.


1941: Sister Lucy reveals the first two parts of the Secret in her Memoirs, first on August 31st in

her Third Memoir and then again on December 8 in her Fourth Memoir.


1943, October: The Bishop of Fatima gives Sister Lucy a formal, written order to write down

the Third Secret. Sister Lucy tries to obey immediately, but for over two months is mysteriously

unable to commit the Third Secret to paper.


1944, January 2: Our Lady appears to Sister Lucy and bids her to write down the Third Secret.

Our Lady asks it to be revealed to the world not later than 1960. When later asked why the

people had to wait for the Third Secret to be revealed in 1960, Sister Lucy states: “Because the

Blessed Virgin wishes it so,” and “It [the Third Secret] will be clearer then.” The Third Secret is

later delivered in person by Sister Lucy to her confessor bishop who in turn delivers it to the

Bishop of Fatima, José da Silva, on June 17.


1949, January 3: A photograph of Bishop da Silva posing in front of the 25-line text of the

Third Secret, which is enclosed in the bishop’s own outer envelope, appears in Life magazine.


1952, September: Austrian Jesuit Father Joseph Schweigl, sent by Pope Pius XII to interrogate

Sister Lucy about the Third Secret, states that the Secret is in two parts. He later confides to one

of his colleagues: “I cannot reveal anything of what I learned at Fatima concerning the Third

Secret, but I can say that it has two parts: one concerns the Pope. The other, logically —

although I must say nothing — would have to be the continuation of the words: In Portugal the

dogma of the Faith will always be preserved”.


1957, March: Bishop John Venancio holds up to a strong light the outer envelope of Bishop da

Silva (photographed for Life magazine in 1949) containing an inner envelope of Sister Lucy,

inside of which he sees the paper upon which is written the Third Secret. He carefully notes that

the Secret is about 25 lines long and is written on a single sheet of paper with 3/4 centimeter

margins on both sides. On April 16, the Third Secret is received in the Vatican and placed in a

safe in the papal apartments.


1957, December 26: In an allusion to the contents of the Third Secret, Sister Lucy tells Fr.

Fuentes, Postulator of the Cause for Beatification of Jacinta and Francisco Marto, of many

nations disappearing from the face of the earth, about the crisis in the priesthood, and of many

souls going to hell as a result of ignoring Our Lady of Fatima’s Message.


1958, October: The well-known magazine Paris-Match publishes a photo of the wooden safe in

Pope Pius XII’s apartment in which was kept the Third Secret of Fatima.


1959, August 17: Pope John XXIII reads the 25-line text of the Third Secret which was taken

from the papal apartment and then has his personal secretary, Msgr. Loris Capovilla, write on the

envelope, “I leave it to others to comment or decide.”


1960, February 8: As the world anxiously awaits the full revelation of the Third Secret, the

Vatican issues an anonymous press release, stating that the Third Secret would not be disclosed

and “would probably remain, forever, under absolute seal.” Pope John XXIII reads the 62-line

text of the Third Secret that same year.


1963, June 27: Pope Paul VI reads the text of the Third Secret kept in the papal apartment after

the Substitute Secretary of State telephones Msgr. Capovilla, personal secretary to Pope John

XXIII, to inquire as to where to find it. Capovilla testifies to this fact in his certified note of May

17, 1967. It is this text that is later identified by Cardinal Ottaviani as being 25-lines long.


1965, March 27: Pope Paul VI reads the other text of the Third Secret — the one that is 62-lines

long. Cardinal Bertone claims that Paul VI read the Third Secret for the first time on this date.


1967, May 13: Sister Lucy meets Pope Paul VI in Fatima and asks him to release the Third

Secret, but he refuses.


1978, October 16: Pope John Paul II is elected Pope and reads a text of the Third Secret within

days of his election, according to a statement to Associated Press in May of 2000 by his

spokesman, Joaquin Navarro-Valls. The statement by Navarro-Valls is contradicted by Msgr.

Bertone when he claimed in June 2000 that the Pope first read the Third Secret on July 18, 1981.


1981, July 18: Pope John Paul II reads the other text of the Third Secret shortly after the

assassination attempt on his life in May. According to Cardinal Bertone, the Pope read for the

first time the 62-line text of the Third Secret that is kept in the Holy Office archives.


1984, September 10: Bishop Alberto Cosme do Amaral, the Bishop of Fatima, declares during a

question and answer session in the aula magna of the Technical University of Vienna, Austria:

“Its [the Third Secret’s] content concerns only our faith. To identify the Secret with catastrophic

announcements or with a nuclear holocaust is to deform the meaning of the message. The loss of

faith of a continent is worse than the annihilation of a nation; and it is true that faith is

continually diminishing in Europe”.


1984, November 11: Jesus magazine publishes an interview with Cardinal Ratzinger. The

interview is entitled “Here is Why the Faith is in Crisis,” and is published with the Cardinal’s

explicit permission. Cardinal Ratzinger reveals that he has read the Third Secret and that the

Secret refers to “dangers threatening the faith and the life of the Christian and therefore (the life)

of the world.” Cardinal Ratzinger says in the same interview that the Secret also refers to “the

importance of the Novissimi [the Last Times]”, “the absolute importance of history”, and that

“the things contained in this ‘Third Secret’ correspond to what has been announced in Scripture

and has been said again and again in many other Marian apparitions, first of all that of Fatima ...”

 

1995: In a personal communication to Professor Baumgartner in Salzburg, Austria, Cardinal

Mario Luigi Ciappi — the personal theologian of John Paul II (and of the four popes before him)

— reveals that: “In the Third Secret it is foretold, among other things, that the great apostasy in

the Church will begin at the top.”


1998: Howard Dee, former Philippine ambassador to the Vatican, said in an interview with

Inside the Vatican magazine that “Bishop Ito [the local bishop of Akita, now deceased] was

certain Akita was an extension of Fatima, and Cardinal Ratzinger personally confirmed to me

that these two messages, of Fatima and Akita, are essentially the same.”

At Akita on October 13, 1973, Our Lady said there would be a worldwide chastisement

for sins in which a great part of humanity would be killed and that those who survive would envy

the dead.


2000, June 26: At a press conference, Archbishop Bertone publishes the 62-line text which he

claims is the entire Third Secret and claims it refers to the 1981 assassination attempt of John

Paul II. The 62-line text describes a vision in which the Pope (a “Bishop dressed in White”) is

killed by a band of soldiers. This text, containing none of the elements described by Cardinal

Ratzinger in his 1984 interview in Jesus magazine, is obviously incomplete.


2001, May 16: Reflecting the growing skepticism of millions of Catholics, Mother Angelica

states on her live television show that she does not believe the Vatican has revealed the entirety

of the Third Secret. “Mother Angelica Live” as a live program is taken off the air by December.


2001, October 25: Cardinal Ratzinger admits to a “destabilizing [of] the internal equilibrium of

the Roman Curia” due to reports (following the September 11th terrorist attack on New York and

the invasion of Afghanistan) of a recent letter from Sister Lucy to the Pope concerning the Third

Secret and dangers to the world and the person of the Pope.


2001, November 17: Archbishop Bertone (later to become Cardinal Bertone, Vatican Secretary

of State) travels from Rome to Coimbra to interview Sister Lucy about the Third Secret

and claims the interview went on for two hours, but the communiqué published by Bertone

contains only 44 words alleged to be from the mouth of Sister Lucy concerning the matters of the

Third Secret and the Consecration of Russia controversies.


2005, February 13: Sister Lucy dies at the age of 97 in her convent in Coimbra, Portugal.


2006, November 22: Renowned Italian Catholic commentator and journalist Antonio Socci

publishes his book, The Fourth Secret of Fatima, which accuses Cardinal Bertone of covering up

the complete Third Secret. The book cites the testimony of Archbishop Loris F. Capovilla in July

2006, to Catholic researcher Solideo Paolini, that there are two different texts and two different

envelopes pertaining to the Third Secret, that one of the envelopes and its contents — the

“Capovilla envelope” — was kept in the papal apartment, not in the archives of the former Holy

Office where the text of the vision was lodged, and that Paul VI read its contents on June 27,

1963, two years before the Bertone “official account”, which claims that Pope Paul VI first read

the text of the Third Secret on March 27, 1965. The “Capovilla envelope” and text have never

been produced.


2007, May 10: Attempting to discredit Socci, Cardinal Bertone publishes his own book, The

Last Visionary of Fatima, written in the form of an interview by a Vatican affairs reporter,

Giuseppe De Carli, who poses no challenging questions but rather de facto avoids all of the

issues, including Msgr. Capovilla’s explosive testimony. In response, on May 12 Socci

proclaims and explains publicly (in his weekly column in the Italian journal Libero) that his own

book has been vindicated by the Cardinal’s complete failure to answer it, which Socci calls a

disturbing development as it means that there is indeed an ongoing cover-up on the part of the

Vatican regarding the Third Secret.


2007, May 31: Cardinal Bertone appears by remote live feed on the very popular Italian TV talk

show Porta a Porta to again respond to Socci’s book. During this telecast Bertone displays not

only the text of the vision but also two separate sealed envelopes prepared by Sister Lucy, each

bearing the explicit statement in Sister Lucy’s own handwriting that “By express order of Our

Lady, this envelope can be opened in 1960 only by the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon or the

Bishop of Leiria.” The two sealed envelopes, and other revelations by Cardinal Bertone during the telecast, further confirm the existence of two texts comprising the Third Secret in its entirety. Further, the “express order of Our Lady” noted on the envelopes flatly contradicts Cardinal Bertone’s earlier repeated representations (only said after Sr. Lucy’s death in 2005) that Sister Lucy “confessed” to him in private, unrecorded conversations that the Virgin has never given any such order.


2007, June 2: Following the telecast, from which Socci has been excluded, Socci publishes his

response in Libero. He declares that Bertone has not only failed to “give even one answer” to

Socci’s book, but “On the contrary, he did more: He offered the proof that I am right” and “that

as a matter of fact the explosive part of the ‘Third Secret of Fatima’ exists yet is well hidden….”


2007, September 21: Bertone stages a second television appearance for himself, this time on the

Telepace network, to officially launch his own book which had been published in May and also

to try yet again to discredit Socci’s book for a third time. The press are invited to attend. Socci,

as a journalist, appears at the telecast location to question Cardinal Bertone. He acts in a proper

way but is forcibly removed from the premises by security guards. During the telecast Bertone

once again avoids any discussion of the issues. Instead, he presents a heavily-edited videotape of

an interview of Archbishop Capovilla conducted by Giuseppe De Carli, a partisan of Cardinal

Bertone, in which the Archbishop not only fails to deny the testimony he gave to Paolini (whose

name is never mentioned) about the “Capovilla envelope,” but rather fully confirms its existence

and location in the papal apartment, and the reading of its contents by Paul VI in 1963, not 1965

as the Bertone “official account” had claimed.


2007, September 22: The Italian newspaper Il Giornale reports that before the guards removed

Socci from the location of the telecast of September 21, he was able to play for the assembled

journalists an audiotape of Capovilla’s statements to Paolini during a meeting on June 21, 2007.

On the tape Capovilla is heard to state: “Besides the four pages [of the vision of the bishop

dressed in white] there was also something else, an attachment, yes.” As the reporter from Il

Giornale concludes, Capovilla’s statement “would confirm the thesis of the existence of a second

sheet with the interpretation of the Secret” — namely, the words of the Virgin following the2007, September 23: Socci
again responds to Cardinal Bertone in his column in Libero. Socci

again calmly demonstrates that Cardinal Bertone is hiding a major part of the Third Secret.


2008, January 25: Christopher A. Ferrara’s book, The Secret Still Hidden, goes to press;

100,000 copies are printed. In this book, the author gives the history of the Third Secret up to

that time. He proves beyond any reasonable doubt that there is a second text, still hidden by the

Vatican bureaucrats, which contains the words of Our Lady which follow “In Portugal the

dogma of the Faith will always be preserved etc.” He demonstrates his proof using the facts and

details provided by both Socci and Bertone. The Italian version of his book is sent to 12,000

Italian priests in June 2008. Cardinal Bertone is sent a copy of Ferrara’s book by August 2008

and Bertone acknowledges receipt of the book but refuses to answer the substance of any of

Ferrara’s arguments.

 

2010, May 4: Vatican journalist Giuseppe De Carli, co-author with Cardinal Bertone of The Last

Visionary of Fatima (re-issued in 2010 under the new title, The Last Secret of Fatima), and an

apologist for Cardinal Bertone’s now discredited explanations of the Third Secret, admits to the

Fatima Challenge Conference before the TV cameras that “...they could have tricked me.”


2010, May 11: Pope Benedict XVI, on his pilgrimage to Portugal in May, stunned the press and

the Catholic world by saying that the Third Secret of Fatima tells us that “not only from the

outside come the attacks against the Pope and the Church, but the sufferings of the Church come

from right inside the Church, from the sin that resides inside the Church... we see this today

really in a terrifying way: the greatest persecution against the Church doesn’t come from its

enemies outside, but starts from the sins within the Church.”


2010, May 13: Before 500,000 pilgrims, the Pope proclaimed (in reference to the Third Secret):

“Whoever thinks that the prophetic mission of Fatima is concluded deceives himself.”


2010, July 13: Giuseppe De Carli dies on the 93rd anniversary of the imparting of the Third

Secret by Our Lady of Fatima to the three shepherd children.


2011, May 11: Christopher Ferrara publishes the updated 2nd edition of the Italian version of The

Secret Still Hidden. Using De Carli’s statement from the year before and referring to the 2nd

edition of Bertone’s book, he further proves that Bertone is still hiding a major part of the Third

Secret.

2011, July – August: Christopher Ferrara’s book, The Secret Still Hidden, receives an

endorsement in the August-September issue of the prestigious Inside the Vatican magazine.

There the editor Robert Moynihan relates a recent conversation with the late Archbishop Pietro

Sambi, who died in July. Archbishop Sambi was Papal Nuncio to the United States and thus a

key attaché of the Vatican Secretariat of State under Cardinal Bertone. The report of Moynihan,

in part, goes as follows: “We [Sambi and Moynihan] were discussing the Third Secret of Fatima, the

allegations that the Vatican has not published the entire text of the Third Secret as

revealed to Sister Lucia, and the response of Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican Secretary of State, in a book where Bertone states that there is nothing more to be revealed.

“Archbishop Sambi said, ‘Excuse me.’ He got up, went out of the room, and came back with a book. ‘Here,’ he said. ‘Do you know this book? You should read it.’ It was Christopher Ferrara’s The Secret Still Hidden. ‘Wait,’ I said. ‘You are the Pope’s representative in the US, and you are urging me to read a book that questions what the Secretary of State wrote?’

“Sambi replied: ‘All I am saying as that there are interesting things worth reading in this book. And in the end, we are all after the truth, aren’t we? The truth is the important thing...’”

 

Dollingergate: That Curious Vatican Denial

For those following this amazing story, here is Christophers response to the news. And he, as always, makes some great points....

by Christopher A. Ferrara
May 27, 2016
This column has been on hiatus over the past two weeks as I joined the Remnant’s team on the annual pilgrimage from Paris to Chartres – this year involving some 20,000 traditional Catholics whose average age must be in the low 20s.

While I was away another Fatima bombshell exploded. The blog site One Peter 5(1P5) obtained confirmation by telephone from the German priest-theologian Fr. Ingo Dollinger of what The Fatima Center reported back in 2009 concerning the Third Secret: that then-Cardinal Ratzinger told Father Dollinger, a close personal friend, that in the Secret the Blessed Virgin warns of a wayward council and ruinous changes to the Mass. As 1P5 reported on May 15:

Today, on the Feast of Pentecost, I called Fr. Ingo Dollinger, a German priest and former professor of theology in Brasil who is now quite elderly and physically weak. He has been a personal friend of Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI for many years. Father Dollinger unexpectedly confirmed over the phone the following facts:

Not long after the June 2000 publication of the Third Secret of Fatima by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told Fr. Dollinger during an in-person conversation that there is still a part of the Third Secret that they have not published! “There is more than what we published,” Ratzinger said. He also told Dollinger that the published part of the Secret is authentic and that the unpublished part of the Secret speaks about “a bad council and a bad Mass” that was to come in the near future.

Now, as a matter of policy the Vatican bureaucracy ignores critical commentary about its doings in the Catholic blogosphere, treating its critics as if they do not exist. The same was true when The Fatima Center originally reported Fr. Dollinger’s revelations. But Fr. Dollinger’s direct, personal confirmation of The Fatima Center’s earlier account of his statements by telephone could not be ignored. The response came six days later in the form of an unsigned, anonymous communiqué from the Vatican Press Office:

Communiqué: on various articles regarding the “Third Secret of Fatima”http://fatimaperspectives.com/ts/perspective860.asp

Several articles have appeared recently, including declarations attributed to Professor Ingo Dollinger according to which Cardinal Ratzinger, after the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima (which took place in June 2000), had confided to him that the publication was not complete.

In this regard, Pope emeritus Benedict XVI declares “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima”, clearly affirming that the remarks attributed to Professor Dollinger on the matter “are pure inventions, absolutely untrue”, and he confirms decisively that “the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete”.

In response to the communiqué, 1P5’s reporter, a native German speaker, “telephoned Father Dollinger with the news of the Vatican statement, and at that time he again confirmed to her emphatically and clearly his previous remarks. In other words, he stood by his story.”

Given these facts, the anonymous communiqué leaks water from every part, to use an Italian saying. Consider:

First, there is no indication the Vatican contacted Fr. Dollinger to obtain a denial from him that he said the things the Press Office claims were falsely “attributed” to him. That omission speaks volumes: the Press Office made no such effort because it knows or at least suspects that Fr. Dollinger did indeed say what 1P5 reported and it did not wish to be confronted with his confirmation of the story, which the Press Office could not very well hide.

Second, the Vatican has gone very far out on a very thin limb when it declares flatly that Benedict claims “never to have spoken with Professor Dollinger about Fatima.” Really? Never? Not at any time? Not a single word ever passed between the former Cardinal Ratzinger and his close friend Fr. Dollinger on the subject of Fatima? That claim does not pass the smell test.

Third, the Press Office’s assertion that Benedict called Fr. Dollinger’s statements on the matter “pure inventions, absolutely untrue” necessarily involves the accusation that Fr. Dollinger is a bald-faced liar who concocted statements the former Cardinal Ratzinger never made, or that the reporter for 1P5 is a liar who concocted the statements. But, again, no effort was made to obtain a denial from Fr. Dollinger because, no doubt, a denial was not expected. Thus, the Press Office has published a libelous accusation against both Fr. Dollinger and the reporter who related his statements — statements the Press Office made no effort to confirm because it knows or suspects the statements were made.

Fourth, a lawyer could have drafted the Vatican’s carefully worded declaration that Benedict “confirms decisively that ‘the publication of the Third Secret of Fatima is complete.’” Of course the Vatican claims publication is “complete” because it has no intention of publishing anything else respecting the Secret. That is, the text — which must exist — wherein the Virgin explains the meaning of the vision published in 2000, which the Vatican ludicrously insisted that a corrupt Vatican bureaucrat, Cardinal Sodano, would “interpret” for us. The real issue is whether the Vatican has published the complete Secret, not whether the act of publication is complete so far as the Vatican is concerned. And, to this day, the Vatican has refused squarely to answer the crucial question: Is there a text written by Sister Lucia, whether or not it is deemed “authentic” by certain Vatican personages, in which she recounts the Virgin’s explanation of the vision published in 2000?

Fifth, and finally, the anonymous author of an unsigned communiqué expects us to believe that the cropped phrases he (or she) “attributes” to Benedict are unquestionably true and accurate, whereas the statements 1P5 “attributes” to Fr. Dollinger are pure lies and inventions — including Fr. Dollinger’s confirmation, days ago, that he made the statements! Really? I don’t think so.

Has this leaky “denial” ended the matter of Fr. Dollinger’s explosive revelations? Not by a long shot. If anything, it confirms panic in the Vatican. Of course, Benedict could personally appear in public and, in his own unedited words, explicitly deny his friend Fr. Dollinger’s account. But I think we can be certain this will never happen for the same reason no effort was made to obtain such a denial from Fr. Dollinger in the first instance: the Vatican knows the truth of what he revealed.

The saga of the Third Secret of Fatima continues.​

 

Anyone with real interest in the whole truth, needs to read the De Carli story. It is well worth it.

http://www.fatima.org/exclusives/pdf/ssh_epiloguepg3.pdf

 

Former secretary to St John XXIII dies, aged 100
Italian Cardinal Loris Capovilla, who served St John XXIII before and after he became Pope, died in Bergamo, near Milan.

http://cathnews.com/cathnews/25367-former-secretary-to-st-john-xxiii-dies-aged-100

 

All I can say is that in the Vatican there is intrigue and more intrigue. They must believe the faithful to be idiots.

The 3rd secret debacle is like a novel written by the hand of Fr Malachi Martin.

 

Malachi Martin was ahead of his time. Not everyone's cup of tea but even the Washington Post was full of admiration for him.

Father Martin proved himself without equal in what The Washington Post called his "uncanny accuracy" with which he not only reported but predicted the hidden, inside geopolitics of the Vatican and its complex global dealings with governments and nations. Among his legacies is a decades-long public record of extraordinary understanding of the meaning and implications of events -- a record of predicting the unthinkable and getting it right every time; of foretelling events over the last thirty years that seemed unbelievable at first, but that in the end changed the lives of generations of men and women in every quarter of the world.

 

At his death, Father Martin was at work on what he said would be his most controversial and important book Entitled Primacy: How the Institutional Roman Catholic Church became a Creature of the New World Order, it was to deal with power and the papacy, and analyzed the revolutionary shift in the ancient dogma of primacy that lies at the heart of what many now see as the first breakdown of papal power in two millennia. It was to be a book about the Vatican's political landscape as we approach a new pontificate, and as a book of predictions about papal power and the world in the first decades of the new millennium.

 

Just finished reading the above and was left with the thought that those who have taken the decision to block Our Lady's warnings are the very people to whom she is speaking.

Those of us who suspect there is more to the Third Secret know that the very same message has been given to us in other apparitions. It is a fascinating, intriguing story and one that is playing out as She intended. The second envelope exists and even though we all want to know its contents, I am confident that they will be revealed at the right time, for us and our Church.

 

I've stated this before and I will state here again-It's quite simple. No need to delve into story after story-book after book, etc on this topic. Fatima cannot be complete because Our Blessed Mother told Sr. Lucia in the 1940's-"Don't make the third secret known until 1960. It will be CLEARER THEN." Well everyone, HOW can an assisination attempt on JPII (as we were told in 2000 was part of the Third Secret) be "CLEARER" IN 1960? Anyone??? What more proof is needed than those words of our Blessed Mother than that, that Fatima is not complete and there is more to it?Prayers. Peace! May God and Mary pray, protect and have mercy on us!

 

There clearly is more to it, I'd have to say that I don't believe the Vatican press office genuinely consulted Pope Benedict before they released that statement. It just isn't very believeable.

 

I don't think this article has been mentioned on this thread. It contains interesting observations on this matter. Mr Symonds, however, needs to make his web pages easier to read in my view!

https://kevinsymonds.com/2016/05/17/fatima-and-fr-dollinger-a-response/

 

His unfinished manuscript was never found after his death...was it?