Catholic Prophecy and the Coming Chastisement

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  1. padraig

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    Two Words.

    1. Diabolical

    2. Disorientation.
     
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    Fr Altman is a lost soul. Pray for him. Neither he nor us has any right or authority to declare him an anti pope, a non pope, or anything close. We can disagree with what he says or preaches, or agendas he appears to push, but he is the head of the church. Separating yourself from that belief simply makes one part of a new protestant sect. It is no different than what martin Luther did.
     
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    It's very difficult. We must make a distinction between using our judgement about an individual's words and actions, on the one hand, and standing in judgement over them. I think we have a duty to know our Faith and be capable of judging when a pope says or does something contrary to that Faith, something quite unthinkable until recently. We might, I think, be justified in suspecting such a pope wicked due to these matters. However, we must distinguish this from taking it upon ourselves to deem this pope a heretic or an antipope.

    In a way, is simply declaring the Bergoglian reign an antipapacy a convenient cop-out to avoid having to accept that we might have a wicked bona fide pope sitting on the throne of Peter?
     
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    My thoughts too!
     
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    I agree with all your thoughts. Brian's citations are especially interesting. I was shocked last night when I heard this you tube through Anthony Stine's you tube. (Return to Tradition) I think padraig is right. The poor man is not well. And Purple Flower saying he's " gone out to sea" is spot on. Fame in one's rebellion is a seduction. As Padraig said better to imitate Our Lady and St Joseph and be silent.
    Thanks for all your comments.
     
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    I wish he hadn't have left the church.
     
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    *NEWS FLASH*
    I just listened to a podcast from Christine Watkins/Christine Bacon asking all of us to pray the Holy Cloak novena to St Joseph every day through October 7. They play a wonderful excerpt of a talk between Patricia Schwartz and Yves Jacques about both of them receiving a clear directive from St Joseph to pray for the Church and for Pope Francis. They are both "devout friends of St Joseph" and have even set up a zoom at 8 every night to pray the novena.(the you tube with Christine Watkins is on Queen of Peace media) If you can find the video it is " urgent call to pray novena to St Joseph"
    In view of our discussions here i am going to do it. And pray for Fr Altman to return to the Church-- we may include our own personal intentions as well.
    Its worth a listen.
     
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    I do believe of justice on earth is ever served a lot of the current Irish Government will face execution.
     
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    URGENT APPEAL. START NOW! St. Joseph, help the Pope and save the Church!

    "If you would like to join Patricia Schwartz and Yves Jacques on Zoom for the 30-day novena of the Holy Cloak of St. Joseph, text Patricia at (518) 796-3111, or email her at pschwartz63@.gmail.com. Do not worry if you miss the first day or two. The novena began September 8 and ends on October 7. If you would rather read the novena, download the pages for the Novena of the Holy Cloak of St. Joseph here: https://www.heartsoftheholyfamily.org and click on "Free Resources." If you need help with resources, call Yves Jacques at (413) 824-2655. "
     
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    October 7 is the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary. It was formerly called Our Lady of Victory.
     
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    We all know what happened to famous priests Fr. John Corapi, Fr. Jonathan Morris, and Fr. Frank Pavone...
     
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    "Lacking a Prelate and Father to guide them with paternal love, gentleness, strength, wisdom and prudence, many priests will lose their spirit, placing their souls in great danger. This will mark the arrival of My hour.”


    "Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin, and the devil knows what it is that most offends God, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God,"


    Fr. Altman is just one of many to come.... The devil's gameplan is to make a lot of our priests lose their spirit. This will be very serious that Our Lady will have to intervene...

    Pray...
     
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    Thank you Jason.(y)
     
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    I'll be 2 days behind, Ann, but I'll try to prayerfully squeeze it in.:)
     
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    St. Robert Bellarmine said that it was impossible to have a heretical pope. Heresy in itself made the guy who said he was the pope NOT validly the pope. And of course the debate will go on and on and on about whether he has ever said anything truly heretical. And whether he has said anything truly heretical ex cathedra or as a magesterial teaching and on and on. Simple logic and reason are not good enough if you're a Catholic speaking of the pope.

    He is the "pope" who used the power of his office to wickedly tell all Catholics worldwide that we have a moral duty to take the aborted baby, chimeric death shot for the good of the other. What kind of God would allow a valid pope to promote abortion, chimeric genetic editing, and suicide all rolled into one vaccine? Could he be the God of Truth?

    This reminds of the 'superstitious' women Mother Angelica talked about who enjoyed dressing up their statues of the Blessed Mother with the outfit of the day-- that being the extent of their spirituality. It is about the same in terms of being permitted to use logic and reason with regard to the actions and status of a pope.

    Go tell St. Catherine of Sienna that we have no right to question the validity of a pope. Afterall, what gave her, a layperson, the right to judge who was validly pope and who was an antipope? No only that, but she acted based on her personal layperson judgement of the situation.
     
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    Prayers for all priests who are being attacked. These are difficult times for them. May they come back to the Church and focus on Jesus.
     
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    Very astute observation.

    Frankly, out of prudence(?) I don’t think forum members are necessarily saying everything that’s going through their minds regarding PF. I know I’m not.
     
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    During the times of the anti Popes some Saints declared for one Pope some for another. Which meant that some saints backed anti Popes. I believe St Catherine backed the true Pope whereas St Vincent Ferrer backed the anti Pope. Also entire countries backed the tree Pope and other countries the anti Pope.

    The Pope St Catherine backed, Pope Urban was a bit of a nasty piece of work and alienated the Cardinals by driving them up the wall by the way he treated them. St Catherine tried to steer Pope Urban in the right direction of being nicer to people but he just would not go for it.

    It reminds me a lot of the things we are going through at the moment in the Church.
     
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    If saints could back the wrong horse and get confused why wouldn't we? I read a good observation from a priest about the Diabolic Disorientation in the Church at the moment. That it is not only good people fighting bad people, but it is often good people fighting with good people and bad people fighting with bad people.

    Just as it was in the time of St Catherine with saints fighting with saints.
     
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    But coming back to Catholic Prophecy , the given timeline and the named authors. It might be good to see if it can tell us what is just about to happen in the next two years 2023/2024 with the false heretical synods Pope Francis (may God forgive him and lead him to behave himself) in these times.

    What can they tell us about what is about to happen to the Church and the World?

    https://matejgavlak.eu/chronology-of-ww3-according-to-catholic-prophecies/

    The first sign appears to be great political unrest and revolutions leading to the huge weakening of Europe and the West, this in turn opening Europe to invasion from Russia/Islam. This being true it must come very suddenly and unexpectedly if it is to occur before the false synod this October (2023). It appears much , much more likely to occur in 2024 when the second false synod occurs. The Second False Synod is winding up in October 2024. So I believe that is the date things will kick of, this rather than this October as many expect.

    Father Nectou, 18th cent.

    “As when the fig tree begins to sprout and produce leaves, it is a certain sign that summer is near, so when England shall begin to wane in power, the destruction of Paris shall be near at hand. This shall be a sign. England shall, in her turn, experience a more frightful revolution than that of France.”

    Marie Julie Jahenny, December 6, 1874

    “In Rome the storm will be the blackest. The storm of Rome is even worse than the storm in France. All the wrath of the ungodly is in Rome. All the anger of the wicked is focused on the Holy See.” ~

    Desmond Birch

    Sometime in the future France and Italy go into civil war at almost the same time – France will probably be first. “When everyone believes that peace is assured, when everyone least expects it, …Revolution will break out in Italy almost at the same time as in France

    Louisa Picarreta

    The nations for which I snake and predilection, Italy and France, are the ones that have denied the bridge… They will also be the ones that will wage war against the Church…

    The Church is so full of interior bitterness, and in addition to the interior bitterness, She is about to receive exterior bitternesses. I saw people starting a revolution, entering churches, stripping altars and burning them, making attempts on the lives of priests, breaking statues… and a thousand other insults and evils… there seemed to be a general uproar against the Church… I saw many priests running away from the Church and turning against the Church to wage war against her

    Jesus speaks further about the religious, priests, and enemies of the Church, saying: In the religious, in the clergy, in those who call themselves Catholics, My Will not only agonizes, but is kept in a state of lethargy, as if It had no life. How many pretend to be my children, while they are my fiercest enemies! These false sons are usurpers, self-interested and incredulous; their hearts are bilges of vice. These very sons will be the first to wage war against the Church – they will try to kill their own Mother! Soon they will make war against the Church, and Her greatest enemies will be Her own children…

    The more it seems that the world is apparently at peace and they sing the praises of peace, the more they hide wars, revolutions and tragic scenes for poor humanity, under that ephemeral and disguised peace. And the more it seems that they favor my Church, singing hymns of victories and triumphs, and practices of union between the State and the Church, the nearer is the brawl that they are preparing against Her.



    The Second Sign will be the Pope travelling to Russia and once again according to there Prophecies will be in 2024 rather than 2023. This will be exactly at the time of the Revolutions and a massive persecution of the Church. SO when the Pope gets back from Russia he will have to take to his heels as the Red Flag will be flying form the Vatican.

    Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich

    We must pray that the Pope will not leave Rome. Less than one-hundred priests remain undeceived. Even the clergy work towards destruction.

    {53.17} The Church will survive; even if only one person keeps the faith.

    {53.18} The Church is burning. The pope wishes to leave Rome. He remains to attached to the things of this world.

    Hellen Wallraff, german stigamtist, 19th cent.

    The Pope will flee to Köln (on the Rhine River) with only four cardinals

    The Prophecy of Premol (5th century)

    And I see the King of Rome and his Cross and his tiara, shaking the dust off of his shoes, and hastening his flight to other shores. Thy Church, O Lord, is torn apart by her own children. One camp is faithful to the fleeing Pontiff, the other is subject to the new government of Rome which has broken the tiara. But Almighty God will, in His mercy, put an end to this confusion and a new age will begin. Then, said the Spirit, this is the beginning of the End of Time.

    Catholicprophecy.info

    The civil war in both France and Italy will take on a specifically anti-Catholic animus. This civil war in France will develop basically into a general war between Catholics (and a few allies) and the anti-Christian forces (particularly in France) which have been running those countries for centuries. That ruling pattern began with the French Revolution in France. It began/culminated with Garibaldi in Italy.

    The Catholics will be on the verge of being wiped out in France, when, a great military Catholic leader will come to the fore in France.




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