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Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    It has me wondering what is the basis for his statement that it has been proven to have no use at all in treating covid? If he's right, all the rest of the I+Mask supplements are what made the difference for the patients treated by Dr. Kory and others. He is in South Africa, so he's not subject to US laws or lawmakers. I see that he still includes fluvoxamine or fluoxetine and is telling people to have it at the ready. Anti-depressants must be very easily available in SA.

    He seems to share Dr. Demello's opinion that covid is a clotting disease. I'm fairly sure that Dr. Demello uses IVM but he places more emphasis on quercetin, and uses plavix to treat severe cases.
     
  2. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    I just saw an ad that cvs pharmacy is giving out flu vaccines now. It is a tad early but they are ready. I an wondering how the vacced people are going to handle it. I am thinking their immune systems are altered by the covid vacc.
     
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  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Helpful information. Thank you. I must say, however, that I would be reluctant to use anything with an active ingredient additional to ivermectin, especially when there are liquids and pastes available in which IVM is the only active ingredient.
     
  4. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Funny….but sadly, a possibility. Folks I know won’t be buying it:D
     
  5. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Yes, avoid anything labeled as “Ivermectin Plus” or Ivermectin Gold” etc. Some formulations have an additional active ingredient, active against other parasites. You don’t want that. Fortunately here at least I have only seen that in “horse paste” formulations, not injectable ivermectin.
     
  6. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

  7. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    There is currently a msm barrage of articles against ivermectin, just as there were against hcq last year. He must be easily swayed by the msm. CBBADD23-35DD-4E5F-93C7-D42F60D3B6A3.jpeg
     
  8. AED

    AED Powers

    :eek:(n)
     
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  9. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    The liquid that I bought had two types. The one I bought contains IVM, glycerine and glycerol formal. I don't know what was the extra ingredient in the other one marked something like "extra" or "gold"
     
  10. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    He is in SA where IVM is probably used a lot to treat other illnesses. Maybe he was influenced by the scare about a global shortages of IVM. Or maybe he knows of some study that we aren't aware of. If the latter, it is strange that he didn't mention the study.

    From what I can figure out from watching doctors being interviewed, reducing inflammation is very important. Isn't that one of the reasons for using IVM, fluvoxamine, and some other drugs? Dr. Mobeen also explained in one of his videos how IVM attached to something called the Ace receptor, preventing the virus attaching to the same receptor and embedding itself in the cells. I probably got that back to front but I know that the Ace receptor is a big deal.

    Dr. Demello also uses a drug normally used to treat gout. He said that he prefers to use that for its anti inflammatory effect rather than steroids but follows up with steroids if patients don't improve. If you get a chance, watch Dr. Mobeen's discussion with Dr. Demello on the Dr. Been Medical Lectures youtube channel. It's a great interview. I'm very impressed at the willingness of doctors like Demello to answer questions put by people on the livechat.
     
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  11. BrianK

    BrianK Powers Staff Member

    Actually two drugs to treat gout have promise. One is one of the oldest NSAIDS, indomethacin. It’s the drug of choice for acute gout flare ups, short of an oral steroid. Another is colchicine. It’s not an NSAID but has unique anti inflammatory properties. I’ll try to dig up that interview.

    Sorry if I come across too harsh or stern. I have a lot invested in this and when I see something that asserts something I see as flat out wrong I have a knee jerk reaction to it.

    Thanks for all your efforts, and thanks again for going above and beyond for Jack!
     
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  12. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Colchicine is the drug Dr. Demello uses. I think that listening to another interview with him I misheard and thought he was saying quercetin when he was actually saying colchicine. He uses that from day one. Do watch that interview. The only thing they seem to have been wrong about is that they both seemed to believe that people who had covid wouldn't catch it again. Dr. Demello is adamant about treating patients to prevent blood clots. He doesn't use fluvoxamine. I think that he is of the Hindu faith. Answering a question about treating patients who are diabetic, he said that he uses the service of a colleague to manage the diabetes while he treats the covid. He works with the corporate sector in India.

    You didn't come across as too harsh. I'm glad that you drew my attention to the changes in that document.
     
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  13. RoryRory

    RoryRory Perseverance

    If you get Covid and take the horse paste and all the other recommendations can you also take arithromycin and a steroid as we have that in case my husband gets a flare up of copd. Sp may be wrong.
     
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  14. RoryRory

    RoryRory Perseverance

    Steroid prednisone
     
  15. Pray4peace

    Pray4peace Ave Maria

    This attempt by the msm to discredit ivermectin is sad, yet predictable.

    The first headline from yahoo “Ivermectin is not a proven treatment for Covid-19” is ridiculous. The vaccine is not a proven either, but that isn’t stopping them from pushing it on us. The hypocrisy!
     

  16. After my uncle had the vaccine, his grandson had some nosebleeding and mild fever
     
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  17. They said the spike proteins are being shedded in the first 2 weeks after their vaccination,
     

  18. Yes, I used colchicine for my gout. It is anti-inflammatory. There is a study in Canada early this year that says that colchicine has good anti-inflammatory properties against cytokine storm.
     
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  19. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Are doctors in Canada able to prescribe it to treat Covid without the risk of being disbarred? Dr. Demello works with India's corporate sector so he's unlikely to have his license withdrawn.

    In an ideal world, doctors from all corners of the globe would be collaborating to find the most effective treatment. If everything Covid related weren't so polarised I would be able to talk to my doctor and discuss the prophylaxis and possible treatment best suited for me and my doctor would be free to prescribe. Instead, I have no option but to read medical reports I don't understand and watch videos of doctors in the hope of picking up enough knowledge to keep myself out of hospital.

    Imagine the progress that could me made if the brilliant minds on both sides of the divide were to put their heads together, sharing their knowledge and expertise for the good of humanity.
     
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  20. AED

    AED Powers

    We are all in the same boat. MDs are either duped or running scared.
     
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