Does God need our prayers?

Discussion in 'On prayer itself' started by border collie, Sep 23, 2026 at 11:16 AM.

  1. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    I was at a morning mass recently and the priest was reciting a prayer attributed to St. Pio. The last line read, "Even God needs our prayer."
    Does this not imply that there is a need in God who is complete in himself?
     
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  2. God needs our prayers..just like He needs our sacrifices. But we must offer them to Him. Prayers of thanksgiving, prayers of love, adoration. All our prayers go to God to change things the way He wants, not the way we want it.
     
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  3. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    So, are you saying God is not complete in himself and is lacking something? That doesn't sit well with me for some reason.
     
  4. I have no answers other than what I wrote. i should have said God wants, not needs .We are lacking, not God.
    I'm sure someone else could explain it for you. We are called to pray. Good luck![/QUOTE]
     
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  5. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    Yes you are correct God does not in fact need our prayers or sacrifices or any other acts of piety.
     
  6. Malachi

    Malachi Powers

    That does not mean he does not "use them" or respond to them in a manner of speaking
     
  7. Context: God is already All-Knowing and All-Powerful, there is no lacking in Him. He actually does not need prayers to accomplish His plan, but the mere fact that God ordained that we pray to Him, then that is the way it should be: to derive an even greater good.

    God is already Great and Merciful. But by praying to Him we even magnify His Greatness and Mercy more. That's the difference. Didn't St. Thomas de Aquinas say that Mercy is God's greatest attribute? Mercy can only be granted if one asks for it.

    Contrast this if He just continues giving people all the things they need without even talking to Him.
     
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  8. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I think the key here is how you interpret "need." Yes, I would absolutely say God needs our prayers. But "need" in this case means something along the lines of Jesus' level of desire when He said "I thirst." He thirsts for souls to the depths of the heart of God, which we cannot even begin to comprehend. And since God has ordained that souls be saved through the prayers and sacrifices of the communion of saints, united to Christ through Mary, Jesus would say that He needs, longs for, our prayers. He needs all we can give to help Him bestow the amount of grace He wants to pour out on the world.

    Remember that when He entered certain towns during his ministry on Earth, the Bible says He "could work no miracles there," because of the people's lack of faith. And remember His emotional address to the hardened hearts of the Jews: "How I would have gathered you up like a hen gathers her chicks...but you would not."

    God allows us to tie His own hands, so to speak, and cannot work miracles or gather us to Himself without our cooperation.
     
  9. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    In reflection,I think the word that troubled me more was the "Even" and the way it was read. It was like the priest (unintentionally) was bringing God down to a human level.
     
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  10. Beautifully said!
     
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  11. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    I believe that is a direct quote from Padre Pio. I'm sure Padre Pio wasn't trying to bring God down to our level...but Jesus does have not only a divine nature, but a human one, with a human Heart. Keep in mind that Padre Pio was frequently visited by Christ literally sobbing over the wounds inflicted on Him by His chosen souls He loved so much. Padre Pio's own heart (which was actually fused with Christ's) suffered tremendously seeing Christ so broken-hearted. He was likely coming from that place when he begged people to pray to God, because even God needs our prayers.
     
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