Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. Steve79

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    There have been NATO commandos in Ukraine for some time.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/25/us/politics/commandos-russia-ukraine.html

    We are already in WWIII.
    It is not an open confrontation yet, but
    by the training of Ukrainian soldiers in third countries and inside Ukraine by NATO commandos,
    through the delivery of ever heavier weapons,
    by assisting in reconnaissance with Western surveillance technology,
    by helping NATO commanders to investigate and determine missile attacks (Crimean bridge, sinking of the Moskva, North Stream, military shelter in Makiyivka),
    and by the recent silly statements of the german foreign minister...
    ...it is clear that it is already a war between NATO and Russia.
    There may be differences in the definition of a warring party.
    Relevant for us in the West is the Russian definition or when Russia sees only the way forward as a way out.

    I think this can be influenced by prayer.

    The RAND corporation is now in favor of a negotiated solution.
    So i think after the then Presidents of Ukraine, Germany, France, and most recently Boris Johnson told us that the Minsk agreement negotiations were just show, that a mediation by the neutral Pope Francis has not become less likely.
     
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    I'm sure that you saw the story about a Chinese Spy Balloon was discovered over Montana but Biden does want it shot down.:eek:
     
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    China said it was a “weather balloon” that went off track:D
     
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    A weather balloon that checks atmospheric conditions above a nuclear missile site. :rolleyes: I hear it's heading east.
     
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    Yes, I heard that as well. Remember I said that there were Chinese troops in Canada?
     
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    You did! (y)
     
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    Anyone hear what the payload might be that the Chinese balloon is carrying?
     
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    Probably a floating bio lab funded by NIH.
     
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    2nd Balloon being tracked over Latin America :whistle::whistle::whistle:
     
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    I hadn't heard about this recent balloon business until reading posts here, but it reminds me of past similar events - just sharing a few links FYI because past balloon incidents were said to be linked to Bill Gates' insane "block out the sun" idea (SCoPEx that did the balloon tests was funded by or linked to the BG foundation - look it up) and also US military surveillance

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/balloon-test-flight-plan-under-063032967.html
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...ns-using-radar-possibly-video-track-cars.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/02/pentagon-balloons-surveillance-midwest
     
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    What is said in the video makes sense.

    As Andree writes, it may also have other backgrounds.
    Unfortunately, both sides seem to be starting from a confrontation.
    https://www.ft.com/content/bf5362de-60a6-4181-8c2a-56b50be61383

    I think you can bypass the paywall via the twitter link. at least it worked for me.
    https://twitter.com/FT/status/1612193418561585153?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
     
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    A woman recorded this video of an explosion over Billings, Montana yesterday. Apparently she saw a jet tearing across the sky and then heard the explosion. Speculation on social media that this may have been another balloon???


     
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    The man in Padraig’s video said that the first balloon came from Canada. This may have been another one.
    Thanks for the post.
     
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    It does sound like these balloons could be a "trial run" for something. We may never know the whole story. :(
     
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    Just seen..
    At about minute 16:10 it is confirmed - missiles with a relatively long range are actually being delivered.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA7SoH-QmDA

    The ever-increasing number of weapons knows no bounds, no thought of de-escalation seems to be present.
    The devil is at work on all sides.

    Russian Federation Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev commented on the likelihood of attacks on Crimea with new long-range bombs that the United States is moving to Kiev:
    ▪️ The response in the event of strikes in Crimea and deep in Russia will be swift, harsh and convincing;
    ▪️ Russia does not set any limitations on itself in terms of response to attacks, depending on the nature of the threat, it is ready to use all kinds of weapons;
    ▪️ If Ukraine tries to attack in Crimea, there will be retaliatory strikes, the whole Ukraine, which remains under the rule of Kiev, will burn down;
    ▪️ Those who argue that arms deliveries to Ukraine in the West will contribute to the start of negotiations are mistaken, the result will be just the opposite.


    Because I hope so much that the warning will soon come true, I can also take a positive view of the whole thing. I guess I'm a bit special...
     
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    At this point unless it is tactically relevant for Russia I can't see how diplomatic talks are even going to be entertained. With the Minsk accord being exposed for what it was (a stalling tactic) and Russia having momentum on the battlefield (albeit slow) it just doesn't make any sense. Trust has been burned to the ground.

    That was a good interview, thanks for posting it.

     
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