Escalation - very worrying

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by garabandal, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    What are our leaders playing at?
    They actually seem to be desiring WW3!!
     
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  2. The only reason they could possibly have aside from just straight out bloodlust is to provoke Putin.
     
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  3. Mary's child

    Mary's child Powers

    Andy, these have been my thoughts as well.
     
  4. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    The West hasn't been beaten yet. Expect the propaganda in Europe to ratchet up. Fear is the easiest means of controlling the masses. The plan appears to have been that Europe would fight Russia if Putin couldn't be toppled. For the plan to succeed, they need control of Russia's natural resources.

    China doesn't have oil. I posted a video here about a year ago of some expert giving a pep talk at a US military base or military academy. That expert said that New Zealand could beat China (I'm not joking). With Europe fighting Russia and Australia, New Zealand, Japan and the Philippines fighting oil-less China, the puppet masters can sit pretty directing operations from some underground city in the US and clean up when it's all over. That expert suggested that America's next war could be in Mexico against the drug cartels. That's one way of having a military presence in a neighbouring country without launching an invasion. Whatever happens, the Euro is finished as a possible rival reserve currency. The Germans have been kept down, the Russians out and the Americans in (the unspoken part is the Brits on top - or a very select portion of the British elite). I read somewhere that there's an agreement for a British naval base in Sevastapol, which probably explains NATO's obsession with Crimea.

    India is the one to watch. The Indians seem to be committed to BRICS but they're playing their cards close to their chest on the warnin Ukraine other than taking advantage of the cheap Russian oil. India could become a super power but, like China, they have no oil. It's not the size of Russia that matters. It's their oil, gas and other natural resources.

    The two possibilities that concern me most are:

    1) Provoking Russia into attacking an EU country. If that happens, we're all dragged into it, and I wouldn't rule out a false flag. Also, Donald Tusk has power in Poland. He's the worst kind of Eurocrat.

    2) Propaganda of the fear mongering type as well as moral blackmail. They've tried the fear mongering from the start (Poland is next, then all of Europe). That hasn't worked so far because nobody wants to see their sons going to war. The other is moral blackmail. Basto has a thread here showing war damaged churches. The message seems to be that those evil Communist Russians are waging war against Christian churches. Pictures can be deceiving. From what I've seen, much of this war has been artillery based. The Ukrainians embed themselves in built up areaa, using the buildings for cover. I'm an ignoramous regarding military matters but I reckon that if you hide in or behind a building and launch a missile at your enemy, chances are that the enemy will return fire targeting the building. And if the enemy has more lethal weapons in greater quantity, it's very likely that the building will be destroyed and you will be killed. Terrible things happen in war.

    Whatever happens, America should be ok unless it goes all out nuclear. There's no chance they will be invaded. They have plenty of natural resources. Even if the dollar loses its reserve currency status, they might be a tad poorer but they'll get over it and may be better off in the long term if the war mongers lose their power. The future doesn't look good for Europe.

    I don't blame Putin or the Russians. They trusted the West and were fooled. They wanted Western style prosperity only to discover that we're all fur coat and no knickers. If war is really the result of sin, we can't say we don't deserve what's coming to us. Double down on the prayers for the conversion of Russia.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I tend to get the impression with the likes of Joe Biden and Nanci Pelosi is that they are insane with evil. But it is the same with secular leaders all over the world. A bit like the Emperors Nero or Caligula or Tiberius in Ancient Rome. Evil has consumed them, so to speak.
     
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  6. Byron

    Byron Powers

    We are living in pagan times.
     
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  7. Byron

    Byron Powers

    I have had my doubts about Trump for quite awhile. How could he not have fired Fauci, the CIA Director, FBI Director??????
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Donald is not much to write home about either. I remember, for instance how himself and his family rushed to take the jabs. They were about the first ones in the USA to get them.

    Look, the results of the vaccine are very good, and if you do get (Covid), it’s a very minor form. People aren’t dying when they take the vaccine,” he said in an interview with The Daily Wire’s Candace Owens that was released Tuesday.

    When Owens began raising doubt about the vaccine efficacy, Trump interjected, saying, “Well, no, the vaccine works.”



    “The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don’t take their vaccine. But it’s still their choice, and if you take the vaccine, you are protected,” he said.


    Trump touts effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccine | CNN Politics
     
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  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Excellent questions.
     
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  10. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Here's a European perspective on Trump...I think he's the best American president since J.F.K.
    Probably the first president of the USA in about 50 years who did not start a single war or cause a conflict. Relations with Russia have normalized, the war in Donbass (eastern Ukraine) has calmed down. The USA withdrew a large number of American soldiers from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, before that it made it impossible to finance ISIL, which was a project of the CIA (Obama, McCain, Biden) and Israel, i.e. Mossad, to destabilize Syria. You can see exactly how ISIL disappeared in 2017 as soon as he came to power, the rest of those factions were destroyed by the Russians.
    With that alone, terrorist attacks in Europe disappeared, so in 2015 and 2016 we had a terrorist attack every two weeks, literally when Trump came with the destruction of ISIL, cities and gatherings became safe again.
    In the USA, he returned the industry as the main branch of financing the economy to what the USA was in the 1950s, so that the basis of the economy was industry and production, not the military industry, wars and robbery of oil-rich countries.
    He made the USA an energy-independent country, which enabled low inflation, cheap production, the return of companies from Asia and Mexico, and yet because of this, he made it impossible for oil-rich countries or Russia to act aggressively because the price of oil was so low that they were in a loss. So any war would lead them to bankruptcy... Record low employment in the USA going back the last 40 years or so.
    In the end, he appointed conservative judges to the Constitutional Court who enabled the overturned Roe vs Wade...

    However, you must know that the swamp is too deep and has been programmed for decades on all levels. Trump chooses and recognizes people very poorly, the Jewish lobby is too strong, as well as the military-industrial complex and the banking lobby. The media attacked him every day, I guess 99% of the media were against him, they forbade him to act according to the social. networks, they created a culture of fear and emotional manipulation to start ww3, dictatorship, means constant lies.

    To be honest, I don't think "they" even believed he could win, but when he won the election, they did everything possible to remove him from power. I even think that the coronavirus was released earlier than they planned so that they can blame it for a large number of deaths and that they can steal the election. There is no theory that they will allow him to come to power, but if he interfered in the selection of the CIA, FBI director, I think they would have killed him like some previous presidents. I even dare to say that it is from Reagan and Nixon, who made some decisions (not all) independently with his head. All the others are just puppets in the end..
     
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  11. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Trump should have won the Nobel Peace prize.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66850451

    After Donald Trump labelled Florida's six-week abortion ban a "terrible mistake", he opened himself to attack from powerful conservative activists who want to ban the procedure nationwide. But his comments also revealed the challenges for Republican messaging on one of the country's most polarising issues.

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    On Monday afternoon, the president of Students for Life sent an open letter to former President Donald Trump, the definitive frontrunner for the Republican party's 2024 presidential nomination.

    The tone was displeased, and scolding.

    Students for Life would pause its $5m (£4m) door-knocking campaign meant to rally anti-abortion voters in the 2024 race until Mr Trump "clarified" his comments in a recent interview on NBC's Meet the Press, which had aired the day before.

    Mr Trump attacked his chief Republican rival, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, for his state's six-week abortion ban. The six-week ban "is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake", he said.

    But when pressed by host Kristen Welker on his own position, Mr Trump ducked. Would he support a 15-week federal ban - widely considered the minimum standard by anti-abortion groups? "I'm not going to say I would or I wouldn't," Mr Trump replied.

    The backlash was swift.

    Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the influential anti-abortion group SBA Pro-Life America, issued a statement saying anything later than a 15-week ban "makes no sense". And Students for Life president Kristan Hawkins wrote her letter, threatening to pull her group's 1,000 volunteers off the campaign trail.

    "The pro-life vote is up for grabs," Ms Hawkins said.

    The tension between the anti-abortion lobby and Mr Trump is telling. More than one year after Mr Trump's Supreme Court nominees helped deliver anti-abortion activists their long-sought victory - overturning Roe v Wade - Republicans are scrambling to find a position on abortion that placates their base without alienating the broader public.
     
  13. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Trump was acting like a politician who knows he can’t win with a conservative anti abortion view. And he was right when he said the issue would bury us. Just bad timing. It would take a miracle for Trump to win again.
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am just curious as I take an interest in American politics. Although as a Foreigner I don;t suppose I really understand them too well, I don't think any European does really.:D

    But isn't Donald Trump way ahead in the polling? Isn't he doing very well in the Swing States? Also isn't Joe himself a very unpopular candidate? Also aren't his support base demographics dropping amongst younger voters, Muslims, Hispanics et al?

    I think I read and watch too many conservative commentators so maybe I am a little biased.

    The impression I get is that many Democrats don't really want Joe.

    I also believe the Supreme Court will vote in favor of Trump.

    But what do I know?

    Still American Politics are riveting at the moment. It reminds me of historical accounts of Abraham Lincoln and his times.
     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    He is way ahead. And the more he is attacked and persecuted through these spurious charges by prosecutors
    With obvious political agendas the more his base grows. The more his poll numbers rise. But how that plays out in the general election is anyone's guess.
     
  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I enjoy watching Karri Lake, I wouldn't like to get into an argument with her.:D:D
     
  17. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I think the vast majority, even some among the woke crowd, would agree that Biden has run the country into the ground. People are suffering economically, and Biden’s open border policy has placed America in danger. Trump absolutely has issues, but he will get the votes because people want their country back. I fear that something catastrophic may be planned prior to the election, the left will do anything to prevent Trump from winning. They know that he will be coming for them once he’s back in office. MA has just joined other woke states in an effort to remove Trump from the ballot, it’s insane. Heaven help the U.S.A.
     
  18. Heidi

    Heidi Powers

    The Democrats will do absolutely anything to avoid Trump winning. They believe the end justifies the means, so there is no telling what they might do.
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    America faces so many threats, many of them existential . Just look at the Holywood disaster movies to see them all listed, war, economic melt down, civil war. dictatorship, cyber attack.. the list is endless.

    But then again there is not a Nation on Planet Earth without the same threats. It's like the whole Globe was rolling on a precipice. I feel so sorry for young people, how can you plan for a future? The only answer if the ones given by Our Lady in Apparitions all over the World, prayer and fasting.

    But anyway I was thinking and praying for the USA this afternoon and recalled the famous appearance of a mysterious woman to General George Washington at Valley Forge, I haven't read about this for years and years:

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  20. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Is it possible that, in the midst of civil uprisings and/or natural disasters, some conservative states will end up seceding from America, forming a Christian remnant nation in a way that explains why there are few prophetic mentions of the country in a post-tribulational context?
     

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