Coming out of mass down down lasy week I entered a , 'Gay' area of the city , which not so long ago was simply a working class area. All the pubs abd clubs are now run by homosexuals. The kerbs were all painted in rainbow homosexual colours and thier rag rainbow flags were everywhere. I had the unChristian urge to spit on the flagstones. Imagine then how glad I was to hear Bishop Schneider speak out. http://catholicism.org/bishop-athanasius-schneider-catholic-response-to-gay-pride-events.html Bishop Athanasius Schneider: Catholic Response to ‘Gay Pride’ Events “Gay Pride,” Catholic Response By Bishop Athanasius Schneider (translation from the Italian by Diane Montagna) Introduction: A Catholic bishop has the grave moral duty to raise his voice and take a stand regarding the phenomenon of ‘gay pride’ parades. There is a systematic spread of ‘gay pride’ parades throughout the entire Western world. Furthermore, one can also see a growing support for the ‘gay pride’ phenomenon among representatives of the Catholic clergy. At the same time, there is a widespread situation of silence, passivity and fear among those in the Church who should unambiguously address this situation and protect the life of the Church from the infiltration of the poison of the ideology of homosexuality and gender, and proclaim the truth of God’s creation and of His holy commandments. The correct Catholic response to “Gay Pride” events In recent decades, “gay pride” parades started spreading through cities of the Western world. The clear objective of this constantly growing phenomenon is to take over the town squares of all the cities of the western world and, in the long term, the cities of the entire world, with the exception of Islamic countries because of fear of predictable violent counter-reactions. These demonstrations are carried out with enormous financial and logistical commitments, accompanied by propaganda supported by the most influential powers of public life, namely political elites, social media and powerful economic and financial bodies. Such unanimous support on the part of these public bodies was typical of historical totalitarian systems in order to impose a certain ideology on society. The so-called “gay pride” demonstrations unmistakably resemble the propaganda marches of various totalitarian political regimes of the past. However, there is one very important voice in public life that has not yet officially, or to a large extent, joined this unanimous chorus of support for so-called “gay pride” parades. This voice is that of the Catholic Church. The totalitarianism of homosexualist gender ideology is pursuing its most ambitious goal, which is to conquer the last bastion of resistance, i.e. the Catholic Church. In the meantime, this goal has unfortunately been in some way achieved, since it has been observed that an increasing number of priests, and even some bishops and cardinals, publicly express in various ways their support for these totalitarian marches, called “gay pride.” These priests, bishops and cardinals thereby become agents and promoters of an ideology that represents a direct offense to God and to the dignity of the human person, created male and female, created in the image and likeness of God. Gender ideology, or the ideology of homosexuality, represents a revolt against the creative work of God, which is so admirably wise and loving. It is a revolt against the creation of the human being in both sexes — male and female — which are necessarily and wonderfully complementary. Homosexual or lesbian acts profane the male or female body, which is the temple of God. In fact, the Holy Spirit says, “If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and that temple you are” (1 Cor 3:17). The Holy Spirit declares in Sacred Scripture that homosexual acts are ignominious, since they are contrary to nature as it was created by God: “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct” (Rom 1:26-28). The Holy Spirit then declares that persons who commit gravely sinful acts, including homosexual acts, will not inherit eternal life: “Do not be deceived: neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor 6:9-10). Yet the grace of Christ has such a power that it transforms an idolater, an adulterer, or a practicing homosexual into a new man. The quoted text from the Word of God goes on to say: “And such were some of you [idolaters, adulterers, sodomites]! But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God” (1 Cor 6:11). Faced with this truth and reality about grace, the light of hope and true progress shines brightly on the anti-Divine and anti-human scene of the ideology and practice of homosexuality; that is, the hope and real possibility that a person who performs homosexual acts can be transformed into a new man, created in the truth of holiness: “You did not so learn Christ! —assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus. Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness” (Eph 4:20-24). These words of God are the only message worthy of hope and liberation that a Christian, and even more so a priest and a bishop, should offer people who perform homosexual acts or propagate gender ideology.
The totalitarianism and intolerance of gender ideology, by their own logic, also requires totalitarian adherence. All sectors of society, including the Catholic Church, must therefore be obliged to express somehow their acceptance of this ideology. One of the most widespread and concrete public means for imposing this ideology lies in the so-called “gay pride” parades.It cannot be ruled out that the Catholic Church, in the not too distant future, will be faced with a situation similar to the situation of persecution by the Roman Empire in the first three centuries, when adherence to the totalitarian ideology of idolatry was also obligatory for Christians. At that time, the test or verification of such adherence consisted in the civil and politically correct act of burning several grains of incense in front of the statue of an idol or of the emperor. Today, instead of burning several grains of incense, the gesture of solidarity with the “gay pride” parades is offered through a warm welcome from clergy and even through a special prayer service in support of the alleged rights to homosexual activities and to the spread of their ideology. We are witnessing an incredible scenario, in which some priests and even bishops and cardinals, without blushing, are already offering grains of incense to the idol of homosexuality or gender ideology, to the applause of the powerful ones of this world, that is, to the applause of politicians, social media giants and powerful international organizations. What is the correct response of a Christian, a Catholic, a priest and a bishop to the so-called “gay pride” phenomenon? In the first place, one must proclaim with charity the Divine truth about the creation of the human person, proclaim the truth of the objective psychological and sexual disorder of homosexual tendencies, and then talk about the truth concerning needed and discreet help for people with homosexual tendencies, so that they receive care and liberation from their psychological disability. Then one must also proclaim the Divine truth about the gravely sinful character of homosexual acts and of the homosexual lifestyle, since they are offensive to God’s will. One must proclaim with truly fraternal concern the Divine truth about the danger of the eternal loss of the souls of practicing and unrepentant homosexuals. In addition, by showing civil courage and using all peaceful and democratic means available, one must protest against contempt for Christian convictions and against the public display of degrading obscenities. One must protest against the imposition — on the populations of entire cities and towns — of marches characterized by political-ideological militancy. The most important thing, however, lies in the spiritual means. The most powerful and precious response is expressed in public and private acts of reparation to the Divine holiness and majesty, so gravely and publicly offended by so-called “gay pride” parades. Inseparable from acts of reparation is fervent prayer for the conversion and eternal salvation of the souls of the promoters and activists of homosexual ideology, and especially of the souls of the pitiable people who practice homosexuality. May the following words of the Supreme Pontiffs strengthen the correct Catholic response to the so-called “gay pride” phenomenon. Pope John Paul II protested against the “gay pride” parade in Rome, in 2000, saying: “I feel obliged, now, to mention the well-known [gay pride] demonstrations held in Rome in the past few days. In the name of the Church of Rome I can only express my deep sadness at … the offense to the Christian values of a city that is so dear to the hearts of Catholics throughout the world. The Church cannot be silent about the truth, because she would fail in her fidelity to God the Creator and would not help to distinguish good from evil.” (Angelus address, July 9, 2000) The reigning Pontiff, Pope Francis, has on various occasions warned of the danger of gender ideology, when for example, he said: “You, Irina, mentioned a great enemy to marriage today: the theory of gender. Today there is a world war to destroy marriage. Today there are ideological colonizations which destroy, not with weapons, but with ideas. Therefore, there is a need to defend ourselves from ideological colonizations.” (Meeting with priests, religious, seminarians and pastoral workers, Tbilisi, October 1, 2016) On another occasion, he said: “We are experiencing a moment of the annihilation of man as the image of God. I would like to conclude with this aspect, since behind all this there are ideologies. In Europe, America, Latin America, Africa, and in some countries of Asia, there are genuine forms of ideological colonization taking place. And one of these – I will call it clearly by its name – is [the ideology of] ‘gender’. Today children – children! – are taught in school that everyone can choose his or her sex. Why are they teaching this? Because the books are provided by the persons and institutions that give you money. These forms of ideological colonization are also supported by influential countries. And this is terrible! In a conversation with Pope Benedict, who is in good health and very perceptive, he said to me: ‘Holiness, this is the age of sin against God the Creator’. He is very perceptive. God created man and woman; God created the world in a certain way… and we are doing the exact opposite. God gave us things in a ‘raw’ state, so that we could shape a culture; and then with this culture, we are shaping things that bring us back to the ‘raw’ state! Pope Benedict’s observation should make us think. ‘This is the age of sin against God the Creator’.” (Meeting with the Polish Bishops on the occasion of the XXXI World Youth Day, Krakow, July 27, 2016) The true friends of people who promote and perform degrading actions during so-called “gay pride” parades are Christians who say: “I will not burn even one grain of incense before the idol of homosexuality and gender theory, even if — God forbid! — my parish priest or my bishop should do so. “I will make private and public acts of reparation and offer intercessory prayers for the eternal salvation of the souls of all those who promote and practice homosexuality. “I will not be afraid of the new ideological-political totalitarianism of gender theory, for Christ is with me. And since Christ has conquered all the totalitarian systems of the past, He will also conquer the totalitarianism of gender ideology in our own day. Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat! July 28, 2018 + Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Mary Most Holy in Astana
The insanity of these parades and the children who always seem to be present in the onlookers floors me. I know I should not be surprised but I always am. There is something very sinister about these parades above the outright hedonism of the carnival atmosphere, having experienced one in the downtown area I used to work in I went away thinking I had just experienced some kind of rite or ritual. When I went camping this week I stayed at a very remote campground and next to us were two young women camping. I had a very odd intuition about them, not because they were gay because clearly they were but because there was something very off about them. That night I woke but was unable to move anything but my hands with a weight that was on my chest and arms pushing me into the bed. I could hardly breath. I have never experienced anything like this. It was suddenly gone and I wondered, why had I experienced this? The next day, our neighbors left very early in the morning. So, I went over and took the name of the woman who had rented the camping spot which is on a sheet that is hung for reservations. I have been praying for her since and also prayed some deliverance prayers in our camper just in case. An odd thing happened after we returned home. The lights on the camper the next day were turned on in the evening and the switch is not in a place that is easy to accidentally hit. More Holy Water and prayers.
It's not gay and there is nothing to be proud about! We live in a period of homo-facism where the desire is to impose their beliefs on others -- Never, never, never!!
I heard one priest say that when we go into a strange hotel room we should always bless it with Holy Water as we do not know who has been there before us and what they have been up to.
Compare the good Bishop's views to this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/20/pope-juan-carlos-cruz Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like this' Juan Carlos Cruz, who was sexually abused, says pontiff told him God did not mind that he was gay Stephanie KirchgaessnerLast modified on Sun 20 May 2018 18.15 EDT Juan Carlos Cruz, who was sexually abused, says pontiff told him God did not mind that he was gay A survivor of clerical sexual abuse has said Pope Francis told him that God had made him gay and loved him, in arguably the most strikingly accepting comments about homosexuality to be uttered by the leader of the Roman Catholic church. Juan Carlos Cruz, who spoke privately with the pope two weeks ago about the abuse he suffered at the hands of one of Chile’s most notorious paedophiles, said the issue of his sexuality had arisen because some of the Latin American country’s bishops had sought to depict him as a pervert as they accused him of lying about the abuse. “He told me, ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,’” Cruz told Spanish newspaper El País. Now 87, Fernando Karadima, the man who abused Cruz, was found guilty of abuse by the Vatican in 2011. Greg Burke, the Vatican’s chief spokesman, did not respond to questions about whether Cruz’s statement accurately reflected his conversation with the pope. It is not the first time it has been suggested Francis has an open and tolerant attitude toward homosexuality, despite the Catholic church’s teaching that gay sex – and all sex outside of heterosexual marriage – is a sin. In July 2013, in response to a reporter’s question about the existence of an alleged “gay lobby” within the Vatican, Francis said: “Who am I to judge?” The new remarks appear to go much further in embracing homosexuality as a sexual orientation that is designed and bestowed by God. It suggests that Francis does not believe that individuals choose to be gay or lesbian, as some religious conservatives argue. Austen Ivereigh, who has written a biography of the pope, said Francis had likely made similar comments in private in the past, when he served as a spiritual director to gay people in Buenos Aires, but that Cruz’s public discussion of his conversation with Francis represented the most “forceful” remarks on the subject since 2013. It did not, however, represent a shift in church teaching, Ivereigh said, since the church had never formally made any pronouncements on why individuals were gay. Christopher Lamb, the Vatican correspondent for the Tablet, said the comments were remarkable and a sign of a shift in attitudes taking place. “It goes beyond ‘who am I to judge?’ to ‘you are loved by God,’” said Lamb. “I don’t think he has changed church teaching but he’s demonstrating an affirmation of gay Catholics, something that has been missing over the years in Rome.” The remarks come as several high profile members of the clergy have sought to publicly make inroads with gay Catholics, many of whom have felt shunned and unwelcome in the church and have been ostracised. Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest in New York who has nearly 200,000 Twitter followers, has led the outreach effort and was chosen last month to serve as a consultor to the Vatican’s secretariat for communications. Martin has argued in his book Building a Bridge that the onus is on the church to make LGBT Catholics feel welcome in the church and to stop discriminating against people based on their “sexual morality”.
There is a small family run pud I sometimes go to its a little out of the way. Most of the talk would be Gaelic football and hurling wholesome craic with the older crowd. About two months ago I went in with a friend, I had heard the pud was handed over to a younger family member first thing I noticed was "yes" remove the 8th amendment badges on the counter then rainbow flags hanging from the ceiling and a big one on the outside of the pub. All the old crew are gone. I shall not go there again myself. This country( Ireland ) has completely gone off the rails. People are proudest of what they should be most ashamed, it seens most are on the road to Hell. Lord have mercy on us.
Yes, homosexual desire is a real thing. Some people experience it. No, these desires should not be fostered or acted on. Yes, some people may struggle with these feelings their whole lives, but no, they do not need to act on, develop, or live in those feelings. They can say "no" to these feelings which are blatantly unnatural and fruitless, and follow Christ. It is stupid and harmful for clergy and bishops to affirm disordered tendencies which so obviously contradict nature. Much less encourage them to be acted on. Sin harms souls, and damns us. That needs to be reinforced.
Whew! I saw this thread headline, saw it posted under “Positive critique” and thought, ‘Oh no, we have trouble on the forum!’
I don't think spitting on the flagstones would be un-Christian at all. You would be despising the sin, not a particular person. As long as anger and distaste is directed at a sin and not an individual it is not only not sinful, but it is in fact a good and righteous anger. You would be showing anger at a disrespect for God. This is a good thing. I would be more worried about your safety had you done so. These people are not all peace and love as they like to portray themselves. It is very apt they use the word "Pride" in their slogans.
Yes I heard some of them are Martial Arts experts. Maybe I will take the dogs down and let them do a pee. They are Japanese Martial Arts experts too. ..and a lot younger than me.
Thing is, though, this kind of advertising is extremely common in the US. If we boycotted every company that at some point caters to homosexuality in their advertising, we'd be eating tree bark and drinking rain water, seriously.
Thank God it has not come to that in Ireland yet. I think the San Franciso thing and Harvey Milk was the world launch to hell. I will be astonished if San Francisco does not get whapped (of course AIDS was a shot across the bow)
We Are Church Ireland – Call to Pope Francis to Change Church LGBTQI Language http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/chu...reform-we-are-church-ireland-4162597-Aug2018/
Extract from: http://josephsciambra.com/the-archdiocese-of-atlanta-goes-gayagain/ "The Archdiocese of Atlanta Goes Gay…Again Above: From Atlanta “Pride” 2017; the GLBT ministry from the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, participated in the event. For the past several years, the historic Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Atlanta, Georgia, has sponsored a contingent of parishioners who march in the annual Atlanta “Pride” Parade. This year the “Pride” festival will take place from October 12-14, 2018. Listed among the “Registered Participants,” that includes PFLAG Atlanta, Planned Parenthood Southeast, and the Human Rights Campaign, is the Catholic Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. Planned Parenthood Southeast served as one of the Grand Marshals in the 2017 Atlanta “Pride” Parade. In addition to the annual participation in the “Pride” Parade, the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception also hosts a monthly GLBT “Pot Luck Social” as well as a “GLBT Couples Pot Luck Social” which “provides a venue for socializing with other GLBT couples.” Recently, the Archdiocese of Atlanta, under Archbishop Wilton Gregory, has a history of gay-affirmation. In 2014, Gregory met with a group of disgruntled Catholic parents with self-proclaimed “gay” children called Fortunate & Faithful Families. " From a shrine dedicated to the Immaculate Conception!
