It is pretty “whapped”right now. It’s streets are filled with used needles and human waste. It’s environs outside of SF are burning. But still they cling to their false ideas and deadly sins.
Now it begins for Ireland.... I am so sorry for all of you. We have suffered under this cultural onslaught for years. I’m just so sad for you.
We have a family friend who works in an office setting and communicates with coworkers via email throughout the day. He says that the vast majority of them have gay pride symbols, etc. that automatically show up beneath their signature line. He has made no secret that he is a Catholic conservative, but feels some indirect pressure for not displaying a rainbow, or whatever, as part of his signature. He says that he's waiting for the day for it to become an issue. We all know that it would be discrimination to be fired for this sort of workplace "noncompliance", but I fear that an attempted forced allegiance to these disordered ideologies is just around the corner. And those who don't agree will be somehow punished, fired, or assigned to some type of "sensitivity" training.
There has been an interesting back-and-forth between Canon Lawyer Dr. Ed. Peters and Msgr. Thomas G. Guarino, Professor of Theology at Seton Hall University in New Jersey (Archdiocese of Newark). Following the news about Cardinal McCarrick, Catholic World Report published this piece written by Msgr. Guarino: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2018/08/10/emerging-from-scandal-the-necessary-steps-forward/ Msgr. Guarino expresses surprise that reports and opinion pieces often conclude that Archbishop McCarrick's "sterling career is an indication of deep moral rot within the Catholic Church in general and the episcopacy in particular". He goes on to caution against a knee-jerk reaction. Fair enough, he's entitled to his opinion. Then he goes on to say this: I propose that a national board be established, comprised of all the estates of the Church—bishops, priests, deacons, religious and laity—which would serve as a reporting station for any clergyman suspected of sexual crimes. And I speak here of crimes, not consensual adult relationships which, while sinful infractions against the commandments and the promise of celibacy, can be—and for centuries have been—salutarily treated with confession, penance and spiritual direction. His solution also includes greater participation by laity and priests in the selection of Bishops (steps towards making the Church a democracy?) Ed. Peters' response to Msgr. Guarino begins with: "Canon law, “consensual adult relationships”, and chastity Clerical homosexual activity is not a violation of celibacy but a violation of the chastity to which all the faithful are called and of the continence to which all clergy are specially called. Homosexual acts committed by or between clerics—even among those presumably able to consent—are at the root, the very root, of the sexual misconduct and cover-up crisis exposed by the McCarrick scandal. Who on earth does not yet know that yet? So my jaw dropped—which takes some doing these days—my jaw dropped when Msgr. Thomas Guarino, in an interesting-ish essay at Catholic World Report, while calling for better responses against clergy sexual misconduct, wrote: “I speak here of crimes, not consensual adult relationships which, while sinful infractions against the commandments and the promise of celibacy, can be—and for centuries have been—salutarily treated with confession, penance and spiritual direction.” My. Jaw. Dropped." You can read the rest of Dr. Peter's response at this link: https://www.catholicworldreport.com...hips-among-clergy-are-crimes-under-canon-law/ See my next post for the follow-up back and forth between Msgr. Guarino and Dr. Peters.
Msgr. Guarino thanked Dr. Peters for his response, and went on to imply that Dr. Peters was missing the fundamental point of what he had written, saying: "A Just and Lasting Reform: A Response to Ed Peters My proposal is that any national commission must first be concerned with the civil, non-consensual, crimes of child abuse and sexual harassment." You can read the rest here: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2018/08/11/a-just-and-lasting-reform-a-response-to-ed-peters/ Dr. Peters' response, this time on his own Canon Law blog: "Brief comments on Msgr. Guarino’s response to me Msgr. Thomas Guarino has replied to my response to his original remarks. He does so graciously but, I fear, inadequately. Readers will recall what prompted my first response to Guarino: his claim that “consensual adult relationships”—including homosexual acts by and between seminarians and/or clergy, acts at the root of the clergy sexual misconduct crisis—were not “crimes” and that they had not been treated as crimes “for centuries”. As Guarino, an ecclesiastic, was writing in support of ecclesiastical remedies for an ecclesiastical crisis, and as he contrasted the response to such (allegedly non-)crimes with ecclesiastical remedies for sin such as “confession, penance and spiritual direction”, I assumed he meant that these homosexual acts were notecclesiastical “crimes” and that they had not been treated asecclesiastical crimes “for centuries”. In those claims, as I showed, Guarino was quite mistaken. All such acts were in fact crimes in canon law until at least 1983 and had been so regarded for centuries. Now, however, Guarino claims that he actually meant that such acts were not civil “crimes” (although the qualifier “civil” appears nowhere in his original essay) and, one supposes, that such acts had not beencivil “crimes … for centuries”. But, if so, such a claim would be even more wrong in the civil area than it is in the canonical. In the United States “anti-sodomy laws” were common until the 1960s and, as recently as just fifteen years ago, homosexual acts, even consensual ones between adults, were crimes in at least a dozen states. Only in 2003, in Lawrence v. Texas, did the US Supreme Court strike down all homosexual-act criminal laws. If, therefore, Guarino really did mean that consensual adult homosexual acts had not beencivil “crimes … for centuries”, he is even more wrong than he was when (as I thought) he had asserted that they had not been canonical“crimes … for centuries”, about 15 years more wrong. And, while we are at it, if anyone, including Guarino, is concerned that pedophilia (“civil, non-consensual, crimes of child abuse and sexual harassment”—Guarino’s admittedly confusing phrasing in that, e.g., child-abuse is always legally “non-consensual”, but I digress) is not criminalized in canon law, I can assure folks that it is criminalized directly in the Canon 1395 of the 1983 Code (originally protecting those under 16) and in ¶ Delictum contra mores of the 2001 supplemental penal norms issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (extending to the whole Church special US provisions already in force since 1994 and effecting the criminalization of clergy sexual abuse perpetrated against those under 18)." Read the rest here: https://canonlawblog.wordpress.com/2018/08/12/brief-comments-on-msgr-guarinos-response-to-me/
Further to my above two posts re the exchange between Msgr. Guarino and Ed Peters, sometimes there's more to be learned from reading the comments section. For example, these two comments were posted beneath the first article written by Msgr. Guarino: Comment from Samtong909 on August 10: Appalling is the word. The author teaches at Seton Hall, which is in the diocese of Newark, where Joseph “Nighty Night, baby” Tobin is archbishop. Perhaps that explains the attempt to cover up the obvious. Comment from James on August 11: Seton Hall is also the locus of Immaculate Conception Seminary which serves the Archdiocese of Newark and the Diocese of Paterson — at least it did just a few years back — certainly during the McCarrick epoch. In all likelihood it also serves Metuchen, Trenton and Camden. Father Guarino minimizes the moral corruption given widespread press — and completely ignores the theological corruption rife within the academy. I’ve never heard that Seton Hall is exempt from that, and having lived in both the Paterson and Newark territory I can say from experience that at least until I left that area after a lifetime of residency it was a post-conciliar theological cesspool.
Letter of A.W.Richard Sipe 2825 Ridgegate Row /La Jolla /CA 92037 July 28,2016 to Bishop McElroy: Now that aspect of the sexual crisis is well known around the world. The crisis behind the scandal will be the next phase of reality with which to come to terms: Namely: the broad range and frequency of sexual behaviors registered in the clerical system. “At any one time no more than 50% of priests are practicing celibacy.” http://www.awrsipe.com/Correspondence/McElroy-2016-07-28-rev.pdf
Pope Francis constantly criticises the priesthood for 'clericalism'. He needs to realise it is a lack of holiness and that we are in the deepest crisis in Church history -- Many of these men should never have been allowed into the priesthood. God love the faithful priests who have to endure these times!! Personally I would boot all priests out who can't keep vow of celibacy -- zero tolerance. And I can't say publicly what I would do to the child abuser perverts --
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/...ing-voice-on-clergy-sex-abuse-dies-at-85.html Richard Sipe has passed away.
