Jim Caviezel speaks out!

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  1. lynnfiat

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    Watch and listen:

     
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    Phenomenal! He is totally correct. Just look at what the hierarchy of the Church is doing to a faithful Priest like Father Altman? It's now up to the lay people to cry out in the wilderness.
     
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    FYI - Jim and his wife had breakfast at our house when we lived in Hanceville, AL just after he completed the Passion movie. They are both wonderful, true Catholics. I will never forget Jim saying to us that things couldn’t “get much worse” then they were at that time. I know he now sees that they have in fact gotten much worse. Praise him for speaking out. We need more Catholics like him who are not afraid to speak the truth!
     
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    That must have been the most interesting breakfast ever! :)
     
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    It certainly was. We got an earful about the Cathedral in L.A. from Jim's wife. Quite interesting. They are such good people.
     
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    He is very good. The story of his conversion is so interesting too. I beleive it centered on Mdedugorje?

    I was listenig to him talking on EWTN and was a little concerned. He counded a little disjointed? But it was great to hear him speak out.:):)

    I hope he is not unwell. Prayers.
     
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    Yes I thought that too. But he has great zeal and I think he was struggling to say it all forcefully. Like all of us he is frustrated and angry and appalled at the perfidy in so many churchmen. So he sputtered a bit....maybe?
     
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    I believe that, like Fr. Altman and others, he was unsure of how far he could go in speaking out, but was convicted by the Holy Spirit that he must speak. I am sure all of us have experienced the same thing. We hesitate for a moment and then God steps in and takes over!
     
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    Yes, I think we all struggle a lot with what we can and cannot say as obedient Catholics. The Bishops are our Spiritual Fathers, so how far can we go in speaking out in against our fathers?

    Also and this has sprung up more and more in mind , how much good would it do? But maybe I am being fatalistic. But I think most of these people are so far gone that if a host of angels appeared to them and ordered them not to close Churches they would still do it. Many, many of them I suspect are active perverts, covered up perversion or don't see much wrong with it all or out and out heretics.

    I hope I am wrong in this, but I strongly suspect I am not. Bishops who close their own Churches are very,very,very far gone indeed.

    I do admire Jim Cavaziel for speaking out though.

    Raymond Arroyo , for once seemed a little quiet on it? No shouts of agreement? Just a settled nodding silence?
     
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    The time is not far off when they decide to close Churches for good as permanent Health Risks for good. Wait and see , you can smell it on the air. The Bishops will bend right on in. Count on it.

     
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    In fairness to the Bishops, they also have a duty of care for their priests, mbany of whom are in the at risk age group. Some younger priests could have other vulnerabilities like diabetes.

    It's easy for us to say that the priests should put themselves at risk but with the shortage of priests, Bishops have to concern themselves with ensuring they have enough priests to cover the parishes when the covid scare is over - which might take a couple of years. That's one of the reasons I will be surprised if the Sunday obligation is reinstated. worldwide People are getting used to staying home on Sundays and only a small number are likely to complain if Mass in their parish is limited to a few days per week not necessarily on every Sunday.

    For all we moan about them, bishops don't have it easy.
     
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    There is always a very good reason for doing something that is bad and a very bad reason for doing something good.

    The Bishops in halting the Public Holy Sacrifice of the mass and many other Sacraments have come up with a long list of totally superb reasons for doing something that is totally evil.

    A Catholic who admits him or herself as liturgically non essential has effectively committed Moral suicide.

    They have added a plus and minus and are left therefore with a zero. They have cancelled themselves out. Censoring themselves out of existence.

    This is that to which Jim Cavaziel was referring. Bishop-led mass moral suicide.
     
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    When we read in the Book of the Apocalypse of the anti Christ and forced wearing of 666 and the Abomination of Desolation in the Holy of Holies that the stopping of the mass by our own Bishops is very much a part of this. It is the hallway to anti Christ.

    When we interiorly assent to this wicked nonsense we have already placed one foot in hell.

    It really is just that bad.

    It really is.
     
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    Good answer.
     
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    We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We don't know, for example, how many priests would have been willing to continue saying Mass in public had the Bishops defied the restrictions. Even if they had only raised objections, we don't know how many priests would have gone crying to the media. I suspect that there would have been many complaints from priests backed up by parishioners. The OTT precautions in parish churches should give you an idea of how much support would have been there for any Bishop bucking the trend. What Jim Caveziel said about collaborators applies as much to laity as to clergy. Let's face it, even when the lockdowns were eased and 50 people could go Mass, the numbers attending didn't warrant increasing the number of Sunday Masses. Catholics who voted for abortion and same sex marriage won't knock themselves out to get to Mass especially when they have the excuse that there's no obligation.

    All of this should be a warning to the Bishops that improving catechesis is vital (starting with the clergy). I'm afraid it won't. They're pinning their hopes on ecology activism. We'll save the whale but kill off the Faith.
     
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    Sadly I agree--unless Our Lady intervenes. I don't count her out.
     
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    You know people are really confused at the moment.

    What is one good way of Discerning if slamming the door of our Churches in the faces of the Faithful is a good thing or a bad thing?

    Well the vast majority of Bishops , Cardinals and Our Holy Father the Pope himself have gone along with the idea that locking the Churches was great.

    (It was the same thing in England at the so called 'Reformation' when only one single Bishop St John Fisher stood against the King and Heresy.

    Now in our present day only a tiny group of Bishops and Cardinals said locking the Churches was wrong.

    Now who is right and who is wrong and how to discern.

    Well look at the tiny group who wanted to keep the Churches open and ask yourself one simple question. Are these people nuts or Prophets? How do they stand on other issues?

    Do they stand against sodomy?

    Do they stand against Modernism?

    Did they oppose Pachamama?

    Did they ask questions about McCarrick?

    Did they take risks for the truth?

    ..and so on.

    I'll guarantee the guys who went for closing the Churches are jobsworths. They would agree with Declaring Joe Biden a living saint if it meant not rocking the boat.

    That's what locking the Churches is all about. Not rocking the boat.

    [​IMG]
     
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    They often did't even have to defy the restrictions . In many instances they locked their Churches and walked away before they authorities even asked.

    In a few instance they locked the Churches even when the authorities asked them to stay open.

    There comes a passing point. A testing point. Locking the Churches was such a test.

    The Bishops basically failed it enmass.

    What do Bishops know about Public Health issues?

    Zero.

    Zilch.

    Nada.

    But as far as rocking the boat goes they are past experts.

    They locked Catholics out because it was the safe thing to do . They covered their asses...and most of them are all about covering their asses and doing the safe thing. If they had not done so they would have exposed themselves to adverse political and media comment.

    So they went along with it.

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