Alright, then I believe it would greatly benefit the forum if he could clarify whether there is anything specific in his revelation from many years ago that points to Leo XIV as the false pope who will abolish the Mass. By the way, I don't recall ever having canonized Leo XIV during his lifetime—unlike what many Catholics did with Francis at the beginning of his pontificate—even though there were already enough reasons to be wary, such as the fact that he refused to give the apostolic blessing at his first press conference out of respect for non-Catholic journalists, or that he was the preferred candidate of the ultra-liberal Carlo Maria Martini in the 2005 conclave, which means that the anti-Ratzinger forces had all rallied around him.
Among other things he had a very quick wit and a wonderful sense of humour: https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/jokes-quips-wisecracks-john-xxiii-lived-keen-sense-humor 1. Visiting a hospital, he asked a boy what he wanted to be when he grew up. The boy said either a policeman or a pope. "I would go in for the police if I were you," the pope said. "Anyone can become a pope, look at me!" 2. "It often happens that I wake up at night and begin to think about the serious problems afflicting the world and I tell myself, I must talk to the pope about it. Then the next day when I wake up I remember that I am the pope." 3. In reply to a reporter who asked, "How many people work in the Vatican?", he reportedly said: "About half of them." 4. When a cardinal complained that a rise in Vatican salaries meant a particular usher earned as much as the cardinal, the pope remarked: "That usher has 10 children; I hope the cardinal doesn't." 5. When he went to visit a friend at the nearby Hospital of the Holy Spirit in the evening, the nun answering the door said: "Holy Father, I'm the mother superior of the Holy Spirit." He replied: "Lucky you! What a job! I'm just the 'servant of the servants of God.' " 6. Not long after he was elected pope, Blessed John was walking in the streets of Rome. A woman passed him and said to her friend, "My God, he's so fat!" Overhearing what she said, he turned around and replied, "Madame, I trust you understand that the papal conclave is not exactly a beauty contest." 7. He once wrote: "There are three ways to face ruin: women, gambling and farming. My father chose the most boring one." 8. When he was cardinal and patriarch of Venice, the future pope was talking with a wealthy city resident and told him, "You and I have one thing in common: money. You have a lot and I have nothing at all. The difference is I don't care about it." 9. When a journalist asked the then-patriarch of Venice what he would be if he could live his life all over again, the future pope said, "Journalist." Then he said with a smile, "Now let us see if you have the courage to tell me that, if you could do it all over again, you'd be the patriarch!" 10. A Vatican official told the pope it would be "absolutely impossible" to open the Second Vatican Council by 1963. "Fine, we'll open it in 1962," he answered. And he did.
So just wondering (and I have done no research and have no REAL opinion - just seeking answers) why is Pope John XIII a favorite for some ? I really know nothing about him but I do know He initiated Vatican 2 which I BELIEVE most on the forum have disagreements or issues with. I am not naive to say it is HIS fault but he did open the door to change. (Maybe this should be asked on a different thread so I apologize in advance)
I've read claims that John XXIII allegedly said Fatima was a delusion of illiterate children, although this seems to contradict Malachi Martin's account that the Pope fainted upon reading the text of the Third Secret because he thought the heretical pope denounced in Our Lady’s message was himself.
That was very clever of Malachi to say in a round about way that Pope John XXIII was heretical. Personally, I’m not a fan at all of Pope John XXIII. There are plenty of photos and writings that clearly show his friendliness towards Freemasons. Yes, he was charming and witty, unfortunately.
As for today’s Pope Leo… more doubts - https://x.com/fatheraltman/status/1926382680746127466?s=46&t=rpQk3Cd1vigE4_phs3nsjQ
That's a great question, and I asked my husband (since he was one of his favorite popes, but not mine.) He said that actually, his opinion has changed over time. He used to love him because he seemed loving and jovial, but he now doesn't know what to think. At the time when John XXIII was his favorite, we still attended the Novus Ordo and didn't know hardly any of the real history of Vatican II and all that went along with it. My husband now says that he's uncomfortable with how much John XXIII wanted to change the Church, but he doesn't know how to feel about all of it. He is a saint, after all. His favorite pope for the last few years now is actually Pope Leo XIII. Mine is a tie between Pope Leo XIII and John Paul II.
Me neither. Among other things he disobeyed Our Lady’s mandate and buried the third secret. Also he refused to denounce the atrocities committed by communists against Christians because he wanted to appease the Soviet Union. But of course I respect those who think otherwise.
I don't really have an opinion on Pope John XXIII. However, just something which might be worth bearing in mind - according to Fr. Kramer, when he was on his death bed he called out - 'stop the council!, stop the council!'. But I don't know where Fr. Kramer got this assertion from.
I have heard this before. Hmm. Just an aside, there were prayer cards in the pews and everyone at Mass recited the Prayer for the Success of the Ecumenical Council. I made my Profession of Faith during the interregnum period between John XXIII and Paul VI. Everything continued over.
https://earlychurchtexts.com/public/vincent_of_lerins_on_catholic_faith_and_heresy.htm 'What then will a Catholic Christian do, if a small portion of the Church have cut itself off from the communion of the universal faith? What, surely, but prefer the soundness of the whole body to the unsoundness of a pestilent and corrupt member? What, if some novel contagion seek to infect not merely an insignificant portion of the Church, but the whole? Then it will be his care to cleave to antiquity, which at this day cannot possibly be seduced by any fraud of novelty. [8.] But what, if in antiquity itself there be found error on the part of two or three men, or at any rate of a city or even of a province? Then it will be his care by all means, to prefer the decrees, if such there be, of an ancient General Council to the rashness and ignorance of a few. But what, if some error should spring up on which no such decree is found to bear? Then he must collate and consult and interrogate the opinions of the ancients, of those, namely, who, though living in divers times and places, yet continuing in the communion and faith of the one Catholic Church, stand forth acknowledged and approved authorities: and whatsoever he shall ascertain to have been held, written, taught, not by one or two of these only, but by all, equally, with one consent, openly, frequently, persistently, that he must understand that he himself also is to believe without any doubt or hesitation…….' [54.] But some one will say, perhaps, Shall there, then, be no progress in Christ’s Church? Certainly; all possible progress. For what being is there, so envious of men, so full of hatred to God, who would seek to forbid it? Yet on condition that it be real progress, not alteration of the faith. For progress requires that the subject be enlarged in itself, alteration, that it be transformed into something else. The intelligence, then, the knowledge, the wisdom, as well of individuals as of all, as well of one man as of the whole Church, ought, in the course of ages and centuries, to increase and make much and vigorous progress; but yet only in its own kind; that is to say, in the same doctrine, in the same sense, and in the same meaning……. [57b.] Therefore, whatever has been sown by the fidelity of the Fathers in this husbandry of God’s Church, the same ought to be cultivated and taken care of by the industry of their children, the same ought to flourish and ripen, the same ought to advance and go forward to perfection. For it is right that those ancient doctrines of heavenly philosophy should, as time goes on, be cared for, smoothed, polished; but not that they should be changed, not that they should be maimed, not that they should be mutilated. They may receive proof, illustration, definiteness; but they must retain withal their completeness, their integrity, their characteristic properties……. [58.] For if once this license of impious fraud be admitted, I dread to say in how great danger religion will be of being utterly destroyed and annihilated. For if any one part of Catholic truth be given up, another, and another, and another will thenceforward be given up as a matter of course, and the several individual portions having been rejected, what will follow in the end but the rejection of the whole? On the other hand, if what is new begins to be mingled with what is old, foreign with domestic, profane with sacred, the custom will of necessity creep on universally, till at last the Church will have nothing left untampered with, nothing unadulterated, nothing sound, nothing pure; but where formerly there was a sanctuary of chaste and undefiled truth, thenceforward there will be a brothel of impious and base errors. May God’s mercy avert this wickedness from the minds of his servants; be it rather the frenzy of the ungodly. [59.] But the Church of Christ, the careful and watchful guardian of the doctrines deposited in her charge, never changes anything in them, never diminishes, never adds, does not cut off what is necessary, does not add what is superfluous, does not lose her own, does not appropriate what is another’s, but while dealing faithfully and judiciously with ancient doctrine, keeps this one object carefully in view,—if there be anything which antiquity has left shapeless and rudimentary, to fashion and polish it, if anything already reduced to shape and developed, to consolidate and strengthen it, if any already ratified and defined, to keep and guard it. Finally, what other object have Councils ever aimed at in their decrees, than to provide that what was before believed in simplicity should in future be believed intelligently, that what was before preached coldly should in future be preached earnestly, that what was before practised negligently should thenceforward be practised with double solicitude? This, I say, is what the Catholic Church, roused by the novelties of heretics, has accomplished by the decrees of her Councils,—this, and nothing else,—she has thenceforward consigned to posterity in writing what she had received from those of olden times only by tradition, comprising a great amount of matter in a few words, and often, for the better understanding, designating an old article of the faith by the characteristic of a new name.
Something is either right or it is wrong This is pure evil. It does not matter how much we may want everything to be fine again. It most certainly is not. In fact it is much, much worse than ever simply because it is a hundred times more deceptive. This guy Papa Leo is a thousand times more dangerous than Papa Frankie
A person who is a heretic cannot be a Pope. A wolf cannot be a shepherd. Hence Papa Frankie Hence Papa Leo.
You warned us. May God help us. https://bigmodernism.substack.com/p...-how-leo-xiv?isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
A person who is a heretic cannot be a Pope. A wolf cannot be a shepherd. Hence Papa Frankie Hence Papa Leo.
I was all prepared to give him a chance at first. But I was strictly warned against him in prayer. That's why I warned against him at once But you know you do not need higher degrees in theology or philosophy to know pure wickedness when you see it. My parents and my grandparents would have known right away. But as to this present generation? They are like headless chickens .
Two evil false supposed ,'Popes', in a row. Two Papa's. Then the great war and Chastisement . This false Pope is only 69 years old we have entered a great, great, great darkness This devil will be far, far more ruthless in suppressing the light and truth . ..and with a benevolent smile on his face as he weirds a ruthless ax, ruthlessly Lord have mercy I see God has warned poor Bishop Strickland
