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Discussion in 'Mother of God' started by lynnfiat, Sep 26, 2018.

  1. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

  2. Denise P

    Denise P Archangels

  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

  4. Sam

    Sam Powers

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  5. Unfortunately this private revelation must go through the Church's process that is designated for every private revelation. All of the bishops have recognized the local bishop of Toledo as the authority over it. It had been going slowly along its process since our Lady in the messages to Sr. Mildred had "ordered" that it must be received in the depths of understanding of the faithful in all that was included. Our Lady had told the Seer, Sr. Mildred Neuzil, said that powerful men would in the future attempt to force the devotion to its end improperly. The original Bishop, holy man and spiritual director for some time of the seer recognized that and ALWAYS only cooperated with the Bishop in authority. Unfortunately during this attempt of power the authority himself was cowered and did not truly assist this last little sister of the cloister, carrying out her promise to Our Lady and her dear friend, Sr. Mildred, another suffering soul. And the little remaining sister of the small cloister group of the seer herself, Sr. Mildred, was told by Sr. "Millie" that "they came against me" and they would come against this little remaining soul as well, but to guard and provide the ENTIRE messages always. And this is what has happened. Powerful men came on the scene, allegedly to "help" the little "sister", but took advantage of her lack of power and simplicity, having been outside of the world, in the cloister, since very young. They took her and the devotion to a civil court in order to gain total control over the devotion since they were unable otherwise to gain the portions that had been disallowed due to copyrights. So a civil court ruled over a Church matter and since individuals held certain Church secular positions.....also a kind of an ecclesiastical "power"....no one except a very few true religious came to defend this little one. Such persecution is known in other major historical private revelations and caused years of delay as well as lessening of intended graces. I followed the whole thing and knew those others who had been the original helpers on the ground to get the messages out to the public and who also were later taken to court, literally being "terrorized" in their own littleness and powerlessness, simply due to their continuing defense of or friendship with this last sister. And there is a history of certain of these powerful "church" connected individuals of attempts to get into other currently revealed private revelations....such as the Divine Will/Luisa Piccarreta. Luckily there the cleric in charge had put his foot down on any attempts to involve others than those assigned few representatives such as Tom Fahy. When Tom was approached by same at the time he refused them....probably could see their real motives. I'll let others figure those out.....but then think of all of the "memorabilia" and such that can be offered, big time, for, of course "donations" with "suggested" $$ amounts!

    So, I for one, refuse to help either the uninformed or simply those misguided who are being pressured as if this route will actually please and fulfill the intentions of Our Lady of America. Today it seems that most, unless they have knowledge from the true history, are kept like mushrooms.....in the dark, with manure thrown over them! I know it is no fault of those who truly wish to benefit this devotion. The truth of this great pressure by such "powerful" individuals is not told since certain prelates participated in this ruse.....the Church as we now see in so many of its quarters is also effected within by positions, PC thinking, and the use of intentional ignorance of the faithful to misinform. They could care less about the necessity of the mystical influence from the Trinity in these times.

    There are so many really well intended faithful who don't know of this worldly history of the persecution and defamation against this last remaining sister, title of whom was also taken from her since she had been left alone w/ no remaining sisters of the cloister left. She was not even allowed to think of herself as still a "sister"/"nun" with her never changing intentions and devotion to that vocation she vowed to live out. That little group of cloistered sisters had been literally thrown out of the main order and had to support themselves w/ responses to their applications to Church authorities hidden from them. You can read that history here, the only authentic website for OLOA:

    http://ourladyofamerica.com/truestory.php

    http://ourladyofamerica.com/index.php

    and this too, in civil court, was denied recognition, legally, even though you might think that those in the Church would at least honor the intention of the seer herself:

    Last Will and Testament of Sister Mildred Mary Neuzil:

    http://ourladyofamerica.com/willandtestament.php

    This last little sister, given the great mission to continue the devotion in its entirety, has since passed away as I've read, but had been completely denied any role at all after this prolonged civil court suppression....all of the stress only adding to her lack of strength. She could not even defend herself and the truth publicly or face more legal persecution and further lack of any kind of monetary support. Even without the authentic church approval you still witness today such "official" prayers and other items which this little one originally had sole authority over being offered by others who gained "civil" legal protection.
     
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  6. Elisa

    Elisa Powers

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  7. Earth to angels said in part "So, I for one, refuse to help either the uninformed or simply those misguided who are being pressured as if this route will actually please and fulfill the intentions of Our Lady of America." As Padraig points out some time ago, this devotion is so important that we should expect dark forces to try to divide us. I donated a fair amount of money to Sister Patricia to get the Our Lady of America medal that I wear and the booklet of messages. I also donated a fair amount of money to the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception asking specifically for the enshrinement of Our Lady of America in the Basilica. This was money that I inherited from my father's death. Both Sister Patricia and the clergy that is in charge would have this devotion be kept under wraps, but Our Lady want otherwise. Our Lady of America holds the Lily scepter of a Queen with a regal crown and her Immaculate heart emits beautiful roses. As this country was one of the first to recognize the Immaculate Conception, this devotion will help the faithful honor this and strive to live purity of life. We may not hide this light under a bushel basket, we have to let it shine out as she has requested.
     
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  9. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    I am aware of the persecution against Sister Mildred, but about your comment regarding Tom Fahy's "refusal" - I am not sure of what you are referring to, but I am a friend of Tom's and have known him for over 20 years and never known him to be obstinate of anything asked of him. He is exceedingly obedient to Holy Catholic Church and would never refuse anything asked of him if it was in accordance with the Will of God. I just wanted you to know this as there is so much posted on the internet regarding good holy people that are taken as truth, but are nothing but lies. God bless you.
     
  10. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Thank you for posting this and for your devotion to Our Lady of America! Bless you for your support of this very important devotion.
     
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  11. The persecution was against the entire cloistered group. Please read the history in links I provided. Yes, Sr. Mildred was included in that but they all suffered. The point is, only Sr. Mildred knew of the complete message and desires of Our Lady of America which was to take things slowly in order that the faithful would not only understand Her complete intent for the soul of each individual and thus the country itself....and that is purity, but fulfill it! Trying to deny the Church itself of its own ordered process in order to just spur on the devotion w/o its completeness is not serving our Lady whatsoever. She would not have insisted on this and even revealed what has now actually occurred by such powerful individuals to Sr. Mildred who passed that warning on to the last sister of the group whom she designated to make sure the intentions plus the complete teachings and prayers et al were promoted. You DID read her last will and testament I linked to, no?

    Now if anyone is truly interested in this history, beyond going to the authentic source from the very group involved themselves, go to the transcripts of the civil court and watch the powerful take everything away from the intended individual. She has been the one forced out and to whom I was referring as persecuted in the civil court. It doesn't sound like anyone is aware of this and have been only viewing the selective info pushed by those who took everything away from intended promoter. And to say that she tried to keep this from going forward is unfortunately promoting one of the lies. In fact it was she who, believing the "entrance" ploy of such individuals into the devotion, to "assist her", permitted them to help due to their knowledge of computers. They always, in the beginning, got her permission for everything and promoted her, by her religious name even, as the authority of any promotion as well as the listed center as being the only place to contact....UNTIL...out of the blue, when she was beginning to learn of their real intentions, and began questioning them, all of a sudden the original website was highjacked mentioning only their apostolate and the lies began against her. That fact is proven in that they were forced eventually to return the website by the controlling source. Eventually she had things taken and what devotional portions she had paid for herself were taken as well, without any notation that these items had been of her work and her volunteers. If anyone wishes to call me a liar about this history, then please get enough facts on your own, from those on the ground at the time to say otherwise. And because the devotion HAD to remain pure and completely separate from other promoted devotions, not leaving any portion out, those who began writing books and doing just the opposite were called on it to cease and desist. The civil court with the powerful law firm, attys changing at will, against the one poor and sickly atty who was up against a giant while trying to offer assistance to the persecuted one took care of that....while they knew of the true intention of OLOA completely against this. Real "devotees"....ha! When another individual who simply offered to voluntarily assist with the tech side this last sister of the group, since she had no worldly experts, was learned of, she too was threatened with the same means by same individuals, her husband stating she was terrified to even answer the phone, such help was also squashed. Her good intentions for promoting the devotion effectively stopped by those same powers. So watch what you pass on to the ignorant about this poor last sister attempting to stop the devotion from going forward. One of her volunteers was interviewed on local Catholic radio and was a reflection of this humility and simple testimony to the public.....but the biggies wanted to get things going fast. Sister, at the time, cooperated with other types of communication of the history and intentions, educating the public in the way ordered by our Lady, in its depth and truth, one of those being several interviews with Michael Brown of Spirit Daily who had many articles about the devotion and info as well coming from others volunteering years before any of this force and takeover began. So that stuff being fed to the naive public is a bunch of huey!

    Tom Fahy was interviewed on another local Catholic radio station, that was guided by their spiritual director being a very much recognized and holy priest of the Archdiocese, who himself was one of the few opening his church to the mystical, within the parameters allowed by the Church. Tom mentioned in the interview, which I listened to, about those who attempted to get into the DW devotion in the states since they knew the one in charge in Italy denied outsiders. It was reported that same heard of the OLOA devotion that could also provide them the same kind of "opportunities". If I could get the transcript I'd refer you to it....but this was years ago and the well recognized interviewer has since passed away. And would you also say that those who forced themselves on a devotion, denying the truth to the public that it is NOT fully approved, but attempting to insinuate that somehow it is and therefore can simply proceed with their own created statue by public "vote", itself not created to the explicit outlines given by OLOA to Sr. Mildred, the seer, in order, again to rush things through, were also "exceedingly faithful to the Holy Catholic Church"? If anyone thinks that by simply parading a statue into the Basilica in order to get to their personal end is what has been ordered by the messages, the diary, or the word of the saintly seer herself, they are NOT denying their own Mother and her Son's spelled out directions for this most necessary devotion for out times, then simply they have not been well informed of the Devotion in its Truth. Do you ever ask yourself just why things HAVEN'T proceeded while forced this far by winning civil interference into the mystical side of the Church? Ever ask yourself why the necessary prelates, who could make this so, haven't as yet done so? Or why a past rector of the Basilica at the time of this heavy promotion and take down of the main witness and intended one to fulfill the mission of the seer, denied their forced involvement with the Basilica?? And just why, during an interview specifically asking Canon Law expert, Cardinal Burke, if he would explain just who had real jurisdiction over the devotion, after these individuals had used his personal statement that simply in his opinion there was nothing against Canon Law within the devotion, used that statement to promote their insinuation to the public that it was fully approved, he had to admit that he was offering only his opinion when such individuals asked for it, and that he was NOT the authority over it. Put not your faith in "princes"!

    I also detected a trace of speculation here that I was not a true devotee of Our Lady of America only, it seems, due to what has been offered on inauthentic websites...info "just passed along" about people. People should not be making insinuations esp. when they themselves demonstrate a lack of the facts of this history. Just the opposite. I know personally those "little ones" who were on the receiving end and were threatened and whose health was also effected for simply offering humble and simple and ORIGINAL work for the cause....before any interference was met with. They trusted persons without full knowledge who should never have been trusted and suffered for it. I corresponded with such and the little last sister herself who was a good fighter for our Lady but at a loss against the real mean and earthly threats against her. I visited one the of the places involved in the "mission" of the powerful, also attempting to promote it....that place in the diary where the seer, Sr. Mildred, tells of how she immediately felt the evil there and "wanted to jump out the window". The experience with this place that I had was of the same, involving bad treatment from the one in control after given certain promises beforehand. Very creepy place, at least now, which made me concur with the seer's own inner spiritual assessment.

    Each is free to go the way personally chosen, but with these facts kindly offered here in addition to what a few are promoting, I would hope that one's good intentions under their God given consciences might just check these out and at least not swallow the current promotion, w/o even the Church's own outlined procedures for ALL private devotions met. After what I know in fact.....not just "beliefs".....I defend our Lady rather than what has been done to her Pure Intentions for this great devotion. It's the inward, spiritual, effects of conversion that the faithful must first accept and do that will complete the devotion and then the procession of the truly created statue will be in truth....not the falsehood of manipulation.

    Yes, God bless all who wish to truly promote this great devotion.....in truth.
     
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  12. Well, I have to say that this is a first! That, as I take as insinuated here, I am a part of a cabal of "dark forces" of division here rather than a promoter of the complete and truthful representation of the history. Again, just as in Fatima, it is the true completion of what was specifically ordered by Heaven via our Lady, that will get the magnificent results intended. The Church did not comply in truth with the completeness of Fatima....why we are today where we are. And if this devotion results in same kind of Church lack of truthful response then such promised amazing graces will also remain wanting to their full effect. Lucia was left for a time....and "used" to certain purposes that left the faithful without the full truth. The representative in this new devotion was also left to defend it in full but also, to the unfortunate state of the Church, esp. in the realm of "purity", it too is not being truly given to the public. Fatima was "reduced" to just another devotion like any other, intentionally, in order not to deal with what was also promised to occur if NOT complied with. Will we ever learn?? If anyone wishes to include the real dark forces here then realize they have already entered the scene w/o much notice due to those who willingly complied.
     
  13. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    i would just like to say that regardless of all the doubts of many of Our Blessed Mothers messages to Her children, we must persevere in doing what She asks of us: prayer, Consecration to Her Immaculate Heart and the Heart of Jesus, Mass, Confession, etc. - all that She has been asking of us, we should be pleased to fulfill for Her and be obedient to Her requests. All the other problems are not ours - they are all in God’s Divine plan. Fiat!
     
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  14. Some facts about the necessary approval lacking. The whole page is worth reading to understand the struggles and bad treatment foisted upon the small group of cloistered sisters by their "modernizing" order as a whole.

    To date, as far as we know, there is no final written approval from the Toledo diocese, the only diocese of authority, stating that “this message is worthy of belief by the faithful.” Although the letter issued to the US Bishops and to the public by Archbishop Burke was mistakenly assumed by the public, who is not aware of proper canonical procedure, to be an approval letter, it was only an opinion letter as Archbishop Burke clearly states in the letter. Archbishop Burke, although a highly respected canon lawyer, is not the proper canonical authority on this issue. While Archbishop Paul Leibold, Sister Mildred’s spiritual director, is responsible for the compilation of The Diary and for the imprimatur on the prayer leaflet and on the medal, and had plaques and statues made, constituting second level approval, he never did these things on his own authority but in conjunction with the Toledo diocese, the diocese of authority. Although a private letter to Sister Mildred indicates, if it were up to him, which it wasn’t, he would have officially approved the messages; hence, there is no formal document from Archbishop Leibold approving the messages, because he would not overstep his authority. He did appear to Sister Mildred on her deathbed, as noted elsewhere, stating that he would finish from heaven what he started on earth.

    http://ourladyofamerica.com/truestory/The_True_Story_Part_5.pdf

    This historical page of these messages and their true reason for being is very important to digest about this devotion that everyone wishes to just be outwardly finalized.

    http://ourladyofamerica.com/truestory/The_True_Story_Part_3.pdf

    Notice how everything is for the purpose of creating the Reign of her Divine Son IN THE HEARTS OF MEN through a reform of lives.

    August 5, 1957: Feast of Our Lady of Snows and the Divine Indwelling (A-L)

    Our Lady spoke on the great gift of the Divine Indwelling, sanctification from within. This is what she means by reformation and renewal.

    August 22, 1957: Feast of the Immaculate Heart (L)

    Our Lady intensifies her plea for a reform of life. “What I ask, have asked, and will continue to ask is reformation of life. There must be sanctification from within”. ...She tells Sister to “go to the Bishop. Tell him of the desires of my Heart. He will help you.”


    September, 16-27, 1957: Our Lady’s admonition to priests to live lives of penance and self-denial, upholding the sanctity and dignity of their calling. (L)

    .....

    Dear sons, I ask you to practice self-denial and penance in a special manner, because it is you who must lead my children in the way of peace. Yet this peace will come only by way of the sword, the flaming sword of love. If, therefore, you love my Son and wish to honor me, heed my admonition and be the first to give the example of a life of penance and self-denial. ...

    I am pleased, dearly beloved sons, by the honor and love you have until now accorded me. Will you now go further and honor me yet more by taking my words to your hearts and doing what I ask?

    October 7, 1957: Feast of the Holy Rosary and special message to her children in America (A & L)


    My beloved daughter, what I am about to tell you concerns in a particular way my children of America. Unless they do penance by mortification and self-denial and thus reform their lives, God will visit them with punishments hitherto unknown to them. My child, there will be peace, but not until my children are purified and cleansed from defilement and are made ready to receive this peace.


    St. Joseph's appearance to seer, Sr. Mildred:

    .......
    Mine was perfect obedience to the Divine Will, as it was shown and made known to me by the Jewish law and religion. To be careless in this is most displeasing to God and will be severely punished in the next world.

    Fatherhood is from God, and it must take once again its rightful place among men.

    My special protection of the Holy Father and the Church should be made known to him. God wishes to make this known to him that he may receive thereby renewed consolation and encouragement. During the war, little daughter, it was I who saved him from death at the hands of his enemies.

    (Editor’s Note: Late in World War II, Hitler issued a direct order to the chief of the German SS in Rome to assassinate Pope Pius XII. The SS officer chose not to carry it out.)

    July 18, 1959: Jesus laments over His priests and religious (L)

    Oh, the pride of souls! How they resist My grace! O My priests, My religious, what would I not do for you if you would only let me! I come daily laden with graces which you daily refuse. What am I to say to you, my best beloved? How long will you resist My love? It is from you I expect everything, and you give Me but the husks of your affections. How long will I bear with you, O My chosen ones? How long will you spurn My approaches?

    My little white dove, it was this ingratitude on the part of My priests and My religious that caused Me so much sorrow in My passion. Oh, how they resist My grace! How they fight against My love! So fearful are they that I will deprive them of their tawdry trinkets that they turn their backs lest they see the reproach in My eyes.




     
  15. Booklady

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  16. satan wants to divide you and I, you are not part of dark forces. From the messages I read that Sister Patricia sent me, Our Lady was asking for the solemn procession and placement in the Church in the 1950's. Here we are about 70 years later and it has not been done. It seems like a simple request, why complicate it?
     
  17. This is a request for a vote. Since when has the Church's authoritative process for judging private revelations included a vote? And I was trying to give the details of the interference that caused this delay. That serves the truth; the Truth is not a "complication". It WAS going forth as requested in order to emphasize what our Lady's intentions of conversion of the heart and teaching the necessity of purity for our Nation to avoid punishment. It's not the externals that matter then.

    The facts of the history are established. It's those who cooperate with this outside force, deliberately, while knowing of the forced interference, who serve Satan, and create the division that has delayed things. Our Lady asked for many things first that would eventually and naturally lead up to the final procession....esp. the cooperation of the Bishops with her intentions NOT the cooperation of the Bishops with the interference and abuse of the one assigned with this mission....just as much as the seer herself was assigned. Has the main intention of the messages been complied with? When has our Lady EVER backed abuse of a little one? Is this the same Lady we're talking about here? Remember when She promised her visit to the children of Fatima on a specific day and time, and the people gathered, but She did not come then because the secular authorities had interfered and kidnapped the children. She appeared rather to the children out in the field later, leaving the people disappointed beyond some other smaller signs that were given.

    What I find really confusing with good people who ALWAYS demand that Church process must take place by the authority in charge deciding the worthiness of belief so that the rest of the mission can even be completed , in this case, they simply comply with some poll or some vote taken to be the basis for the completion of this most important devotion for the country....ordered by lay action rather than waiting, when in all other authentic private revelations, they would demand first the proper authorities grant the approval. We've had a civil court pushed to interfere with the approval process of a mystical occurrence. And now we have that same secular interference to push only the external procession rather than wait for Church approval just because they are tired of waiting and want to override the Church's process, even if it's been uninterested. If you believe in the main purpose then just follow our Lady's requests rather than try to move outside the Church. This forcefulness is exactly what our Lady distinctly warned would happen and that it had to be fought against. As far as the time element is concerned Fatima is 100 years old and, even with a shrine built and pilgrimages made, the demands explicitly made to the Church and thus the promised results have not occurred. Just, as in this case under discussion, what will it take before the actual demands are finally met (as promised to eventually happen) ..... more punishment?; more wars?; more scandal and division of the Church from the top down? Currently we experience what was warned of.....not what was promised if her desires were totally complied with!
     

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