Maybe Mother is calling I feel a bus run being organised I'll drive maybe a great chance for MOG members to meet up ??
Sorry, but I've heard far better performances of that song. The word "dirge-like" comes to mind. No joy whatsoever.
I stayed up late last night, praying the Second Glorious Mystery, and saw something beautiful. It looked like a gleaming, white, domed building, like a church. Or basilica. I think it was actually Saint Peter's in Rome, but it looked wider somehow, like a cross dimensionally between Saint Peter's and an Eastern Orthodox church, like Saint Sava. I think what I was seeing was a unified, whole, Eastern-Western Catholic Church. It looked like it was made of alabaster, but impossibly, brilliantly white, but you could look right at it. I got the impression that this meant that just as Jesus went up, so He will return, and like His returning, reigning, triumphant resurrected Body Soul and Divinity, we would see a triumphant, resurrected, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Not yet, but some day.
From the post below:"People were literally running for the Church, but the time of mercy was over" A couple of years ago I was at Mass, it was just before Communion time. It was a regular Sunday Mass, nothing out of the ordinary, but I suddenly got a strong image, a kind of a picture in my mind, that in the future a time will come when people suddenly realise the true meaning of the Eucharist and "I saw" people running up, falling over each other, to receive. The urgency of it all and desperation of the people really left an impression on me, though the image lasted mere seconds. It was like the world was ending and they had realised, too late, what they were missing and what they needed.
I suppose in many ways we are more blessed to be lving now in the time of darkness of the Church than in the future day when the Church will be everywhere Triumphant. Here we earn merit every minute of everyday by staying Faithful; then it will be easy. We are on Calvary with Jesus staying at the Foot of the Cross , then they will be with Jesus at the Resurrection. Jesus needs us more now. We are very blessed to live in these days. I was praying last night before I slept and as I held the Cross in my hands I thought of Calvary. I imagined myself standing looking at the empty Cross lying on the ground after the cricifixation. It was quite dark and a wond blew blowing soil and dust over the wood. I imagined myself kneeling down to kiss the bloody cross. Then I recalled that it must have been that way really. God the Father gently burying the Cross to hide it from view, so that some day, centuries later St Helna would find it there long buried and safe.
Wow. This is chilling indeed but it strikes me as authentic. We are in a time of apostasy and sifting. We still have time. Not a lot maybe but a little. Our Lord says NOW is the time to work. To work on our spiritual lives. To offer Him that like St Josefa Menendez, we may pray, sacrifice and suffer to help our Lord to save souls. St Josefa explains in her book “The Way of Divine Love” that our Lord asked her to endure whatever came her way and to offer it for the salvation of souls. Whatever comes our way in terms of illness, adversity, trials, contradictions, humiliations, setbacks etc. These are precious jewels indeed if recognised for what they are and offered to the Lord for Him to apply to those souls He chooses. St Pio said that the greatest waste was wasted suffering. That is, that suffering could be offered to the Lord for the benefit of souls. We can only do this if we appreciate how the Lord can use our suffering for the benefit of others. It is mysterious. I think St Paul touches on it when he uses the mysterious phrase of making up what ways lacking in the suffering and sacrifice of Christ. Yes it is easy and eminently tempting to curse the darkness in the Church at present but it is better to light a candle in the form of prayer and sacrifice and suffering and offer it to Jesus for the salvation of souls, first those we know and then everyone else.
Yes! Oh, my gosh, I love Sister Josefa Menendez! Not enough souls have heard of her! Beautifully and truthfully said, David. Beautiful.
One of the very first books I read upon my conversion to knowing and living the Catholic Faith nearly 35 years ago. A master piece on the tricks of the devil
Josefa is good but would scare you half to death. Although maybe being scared half to death is not a bad thing, all things considered.
Yes . I had a vision of hell, or a dream about it one time myself. It wasn;t quite like most of these. I think in one way it was kinder but in another very much worse. I think the greatest pain was in loosing God. Another was the simple pain of loosing joy. I am a very happy, joyful person and to loose joy was terrible. About the worst hing was that this would go on forever. Who cna get their head around that terrible word, 'Forever'? But I think everyones hell will be different. That is why we talk of the seven circles of hell. I would say the best insight into hell I have heard of is the reaction , rather than the vision of the children at Fatima. What they saw changed them totally.
Or as someone once said about my dad, who was a small-town rural doctor: "Yeah, I was standing at death's door. But your dad was there to pull me through."
Something that I find interesting and compelling about traditional Catholic descriptions of Hell is a repetition of how full of hatred those souls in there are, how unable to love God (or anyone) they are, and how they have ultimately chosen Hell over God. They have fled from God and into Hell. Mercy pursued them, and they fled.
Speaking of hell, I read this today and I think it is the most frightening description I have ever read. I must admit I have not spent much time contemplating hell but I do believe that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. I grew up experiencing a taste of this in my own family. There is more to this article if you wish to read it at the site but be forewarned that Barnhardt has very strong views regarding the current Papacy. https://www.barnhardt.biz/2018/10/0...ou-think-worse-than-you-can-possibly-imagine/ What Hell Is Like Now for the truly useful and spiritually profitable information. If you have ever struggled to answer or explain to someone why it is that we should not sin, why it matters whether or not person A is having sex with person B, listen up, because this is life-changing information – information that could make the difference for you or someone you love between eternal bliss or eternal agony and torment. The first reason we should not sin is because our sins offend God. And because God loves us infinitely, it is perhaps more profitable to think of our offending God more as breaking His Heart. Just as a parent who has a child that does drugs has their heart broken by that child’s actions that hurt himself, God, because His love for us is infinite and perfect, and because He is Perfect Good, is infinitely offended, or we could say has His Heart infinitely broken, by even the smallest of our sins. If you would like to read more about Fear of The Lord, might I suggest my ambiguously-titled essay, “THE ONE ABOUT… FEAR OF THE LORD.” As with heaven, the modern conception of hell is extremely childish and inadequate. Hell is not MERELY a hot place with fire and demons poking you with sticks. These conceptions of the torment and agony of hell are as woefully inadequate as the image of heaven as a very boring place with blue, sunny sky above with beatified souls reposing on white fluffy clouds, dreamily stroking harps whilst angels, depicted as pudgy, bewinged babies, flit about like agreeable, powder-scented houseflies. I’m sorry, but what, exactly is so attractive about that ridiculous and banal image of heaven? And what is so awful about that image of hell? Yeah, it sounds unpleasant, but it doesn’t exactly strike terror in one’s heart – especially not terror at levels sufficiently high enough to stop robust, well-formed lads and lasses in the flower of youth (or morbidly obese, arthritic octogenarians, for that matter) from fornicating with each other. Let me describe to you what hell is like for fornicators. I use fornicators as our first example because there are just so darn many. Any sex outside of valid marriage is fornication, folks. No matter how much the parties in question might “love each other”. Post-western, post-Christian culture is AWASH in fornication. In hell, we will be in close “proximity” to those people also in hell that we cooperated or engaged in sin with. I suspect this would be because the damned are obsessed and consumed with hatred and rage, and thus damned humans themselves will gravitate towards those that they personally sinned with. Obviously, fornicators will be in immediate proximity to each other. And so, what hell will entail will be human souls raging at each other, screaming the most vile insults, profanities, and perhaps even physical attacks (as depicted by Fra Angelico above) after the General Resurrection when ALL SOULS will be reunited to their bodies. Why? Because the partner in fornication was a full cooperator in the mortal sin that presumably resulted in the eternal damnation, and thus the fornicators will hate and blame each other for their own damnation. I received an email from a woman not long after I first wrote about this. She had a boyfriend, as most gals today do at some point. They were very average American 20-somethings. They were in a steady relationship, lived in separate houses, but fornicated regularly. They were attracted to each other, loved each other, got along well and there was no history of fighting, and certainly no abuse. The woman told me in this email that she started exploring religion, reading up, and settled into serious study of Catholicism and Catholic moral teaching. Obviously, her fornication with her boyfriend began to nag at her conscience until she finally acknowledged that she had to stop having sex outside of marriage. The day arrived when she finally had to talk to her boyfriend, explain what she had learned, and tell him that it was very important that they stop having sex. She did not want to end the relationship – just stop having sex until marriage. Up until that point, their relationship had been smooth with no major fights – they got on very well, and the boyfriend treated her well. She fully expected that they were on the path to marriage. There was never even the slightest hint of abuse or disrespect in the modern sense (I qualify that because the act of fornication itself is a sign of massive disrespect, but you know what I’m trying to convey). The last words she heard her boyfriend say to her were bellowed at her in a screaming rage as she quickly left his house in fear, after explaining to him that the Church teaches that fornication is a mortal sin and that it was important to stop having sex until they were married: “YOU F***ING C***! YOU F***ING C***!” This sort of rage – seemingly out of the blue and unthinkable to her just a few minutes before it happened – was a foretaste of hell. It was a foretaste of the deep, raging hatred that humans who cooperate and enable sin with others feel, and if they don’t repent and die in their sin, will spend all eternity drowning in. And folks, no human being will take hell “stoically”. Going and sitting alone in a corner and “not participating” will NOT be an option. All of us who end up damned will rage eternally. We will rage at God, we will rage at the angels and saints in heaven, we will rage at all of the other humans in hell, and we will rage at the demons. The other humans in hell and all of the demons will spend eternity raging right back at us. (I write the previous three sentences in the FIRST person plural intentionally, because we all need to ponder OURSELVES in hell, not just others.) This is what fornicators, sodomites, heck EVERYBODY MUST be told: If you do not stop this, you will spend eternity RAGING at this person that you claim to love. And they will spend eternity RAGING at you. I am blessed to have observed/experienced demoniacal, hellish human rage like this more than once in my life. I have seen the faces of people I love twist and contort into a countenance still recognizable, but yet completely “other”. I have seen eyes blazing with rage and existential hatred of me, with what can only be described as the fire of hell behind them. I have seen the lips curl back, exposing the teeth as fangs. I have been raged at by people I love for merely existing, and I thank God for it because it was the gift of experiencing a foretaste of hell. And it was something much better than a vision – because it was real. It is a spiritual insight of the highest and gravest importance. If you have never experienced this, pray God you never do, and thank God that you can be aware of it from my third-party description. And pray God that you be saved from hell, because hell will be an unending, ever-increasing orgy of rage. And what is perhaps most terrifying about this is that those who are damned will be exactly the same species of rage monster that others are to them. As terrifying as it is to think of someone you love raging at you for all eternity, what is even worse is the thought of you yourself raging forever at the people you “love”. Do you love your kids? Well, if you don’t make it to heaven, you will spend eternity hating your kids. And make no mistake, the damned rage at EVERYONE, whether they are in hell with them, or in heaven. There are no alliances, no friendships, no family, no solidarity. Only the total isolation of perfect, loveless narcissism. Everyone is alone in the way that the Diabolical Narcissists among us are alone. They are islands, utterly cut-off from others by their freely chosen self-purgation of all love. So even if you end up damned, but everyone you have ever loved makes it to heaven, because you are damned and they are not, you will hate them for their beatitude. You will spend eternity in hell looking up towards the heaven which you will never, ever see, and cursing all those in it. And the people you “loved” most in the world, will be the people that you hate most when you are in hell. If they are in hell with you, you will blame them for your damnation. If they are in heaven, you will hate them for their beatitude (remember the demonic emotional palate: anger, hated, ENVY and fear), and for not doing more in life to prevent your own damnation. Let me say that again, because it is extremely important: the people you “loved” most in the world, will be the people that you hate most when you are in hell. We should all be motivated by this. -Fornicators in hell will hate their sex partners. -Parents in hell will hate their children. -Children in hell will hate their parents. -Friends in hell will hate their friends. -Priests in hell will hate their flock. -Catholics in hell will hate their priests, bishops and popes. -Spouses in hell will hate their spouse. -Everyone in hell will hate God. Cont..
An Urgent Warning to Those Who Are Divorced and “Remarried” Right now the question of “marriages” after one or both spouses has been previously civilly divorced is at the top of the headlines due to the satanic words and deeds of the blaspheming heretic Antipope Bergoglio, who is probably the counter-analogue to John the Baptist, that is, the False Prophet Forerunner of the Antichrist. John the Baptist, as the Forerunner of The Christ, had as his ministry the calling of people to repentance, the “making straight the crooked paths”, and John the Baptist was ultimately beheaded for defending the sanctity of marriage by condemning the false marriage of King Herod Antipas to Herodias. Antipope Bergoglio being a near-perfect opposite of John the Baptist is calling people to remain in sin and to hate The Law, is sowing chaos on a daily basis, and his central point of attack is marriage and the family. If you are in a so-called “second marriage” of any stripe, and you want some genuinely helpful and spiritually profitable information, put out the cat and read on: The Church has taught that in circumstances in which people are in “marriages” when one or both spouses have their true spouse still living, that the couple in question MUST MUST MUST stop having sex at a bare minimum. You CANNOT have sex with someone who is not your spouse. You cannot have more than ONE living spouse – that is, your first spouse. Why? Because marriage is INDISSOLUBLE. Period. These are the plain, clear words of Jesus Christ Himself. We all know them: Those whom God has joined together, let no man put asunder. He who puts away his wife and marries another commits adultery. It does not get any clearer than that. You can’t have sex with your “second spouse” because YOU ARE NOT MARRIED TO THEM. I don’t care what the civil law says. I don’t care that you will have to pay half of your joint estate and monthly support if you “divorce”. It is also “legal” to murder children in utero. What is your point? It is The Divine and Natural Law that is the question – heaven or hell. I don’t give a CRAP what our Freemasonic post-Christian culture says is “law” is on this matter. The question is utterly moot. If you have sex with someone who is not your spouse, you are fornicating at minimum, and committing adultery if either of you has already been married to someone else. You HAVE TO STOP HAVING SEX AT MINIMUM. What is beyond the “at minimum”? Separation. Aping marriage is scandalous. Now, let’s think about what we have just learned about hell. You say, “No way! There’s no way I’m going to stop having sex with my “spouse”! We love each other! There is no way you or anyone else are going to separate us!” Listen up: I believe that you “love” your “spouse”. If you don’t stop having sex, and you both die unrepentant of your adulterous fornication, you will spend all of eternity in hell, in proximity to each other, hating and raging at each other for contributing to each others’ damnation, FOR ALL ETERNITY. Think about that. Now, tell me again that you “love” your “spouse”, but are unwilling to stop having sex. If you understand the plain English of what I have just told you your eternal fate will be, and you still refuse to stop having sex for however many years remain for you on this earth, well, my hands are clean of your blood. THIS is what every Catholic priest on this planet should be bellowing from the pulpit, from the top – Pope Benedict XVI – all the way down to the lowest, wettest-behind-the-ears parish priest. This is what neighbors, friends and family members should be explaining to those around them. But do we? No. Because we are bad people, more concerned about earthly human respect than whether or not other human beings spend eternity in hell, separated from God, and raging and being raged at by the very people that they claim to “love”. Because it is just so much easier to believe wretched Antipope Bergoglio’s lies about soul annihilation, isn’t it? Why Does God Permit Such A Horrible Eternal Fate? The thing to remember about the torments of hell is that they are permitted by God as a MERCY. Yes, you read that right. Those humans who are damned will be tormented not only by demons, but also by other people in hell, most especially those wretched souls that were known to them and complicit in their sins in life, as a MERCIFUL DISTRACTION from the loss of God for all eternity. If God truly did NOT love, or ceased to love, every one of His creations, including all of the demons and all men who are damned, He would consign the damned to an eternity of silent solitude in which the full horror of the eternal loss of God Himself would be at the fore of their consciousness with no rest and no distraction. Instead, in His Mercy, which extends even to the damned, He permits torment in order to give some sort of distraction – which in and of itself is actually a kind of relief from the horror of eternity separated from Perfect Love, Perfect Good, Perfect Truth and Perfect Beauty. THE GREATEST TORMENT OF HELL IS THE SEPARATION FROM GOD, AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU WILL NEVER, EVER SEE HIM. EVER. Look again at the detail from Fra Angelico’s Last Judgment above, in which damned humans are shown fighting and biting each other. Note how one of the two men biting each other is shown to be a monk. THIS is what awaits fornicators. So you REALLY love that little chickie-poo, huh? Well, the next time you get an erection thinking about fornicating with her, think about the hell that awaits the both of you. If you really love her, and don’t want to spend eternity raging at her, and maybe her at you if she dies in her sin too, you’ll stop. And the same goes for the females…. THIS is what awaits adulterers – including the best-intentioned civilly divorced and “remarried” couples. If you really love each other, you’ll STOP HAVING SEX AT MINIMUM. This is what awaits sodomites – can you imagine what hell will be like for these miserable sodomite wretches with their dozens/hundreds/thousands of sex partners? Can you imagine the enormous throngs of interconnected sodomites in an eternal frenzy of raging hatred, cursing and physically attacking each other, blaming each other for their damnation and loss of God? Think about hell. Tell other people about hell. It is clear that love of God is a non-starter in this post-Christian culture. So be it. There is another means of catechesis, repentance and conversion. THINK, TALK AND PRAY ABOUT HELL, and beg God every day to save us from it. Think about what Dante wrote were the words atop the Gate into Hell: ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE. And then realize that until we die, there is always HOPE – hope for every human being. And for the love of God, go to confession. In fact, make a general confession, just to be sure. I really, really hope this helps. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us. Dante and Virgil (left, in shadow) watching two damned men, clearly understood to be sodomites, raging and attacking each other in hell as a winged demon looks on. William-Adolphe Bouguereau, ARSH 1850, Musee d’Orsay.
Someone once described hell as being like a big formal dinner where all the damned sit round a big table loaded with the finest foods. Each of them has big siver spoon to eat with , the only problem being that each of them has to feed the person next to them and none of them wants to feed anyone but themselves so they all sit there starving. I had a dream last time that I was in the hospital at Christmas time, walking along the road with several people I used to know there. They were all happy and going to a Christmas choir and party one of them even had a wonderful Christmas drink in a mug in his hands. They all had one thing in common they were all very devout Church going Protestants and they disliked or even Catholicisms and Catholics generally. They had particulary disliked me for being an , 'Uppity' , Catholic or one who stood up for himself. I tried to talk to them but it was so clear how much they disliked me I went silent and walked on the other side of the road. My Father told me never to go where you are not wanted and I always took this as a good rule of thumb. This life can be either like heaven or like hell. Heaven when we love. Hell when we hate. Like that big feast down below.